I can't drive more than 250 or so miles before I need to eat and use the restroom.
And that's about the same amount of time it takes to charge my Tesla to continue a long trip.


Have done that many times cross-country in the past few years.

It's not a problem.

And when I drive locally, I'm always charged from the night before, even using a 110 outlet in the garage.

I'd waste more time finding a gas station and gassing up every once in a while as well as wasting hours every bunch of months getting the gas car serviced and being told I need to have my headlights rotated.

So I figure having an EV actually SAVES TIME when driving local.

How do you know it isn't due to population growth?

If the increasing rate of warming is due to population growth then it is still manmade.

Buy a Ford Lightning F-150. Throw a sizable generator in back. Carry around extra gas cans. When battery starts to get low, fire up the generator to charge your batteries until you can get back home to your garage charger.

Sure, it's still burning fossil fuels to keep moving, but technically you can tell everyone you drive an EV. And telling everyone you drive an EV is really the goal of having an EV, right?

In fact, I tell everyone I have an EV. I just don't mention that it's a golf cart that never goes further than 15 miles from my house.

I agree with that logic. Plus at a bigger picture - less oil and gasoline usage means that the US is less dependent on the Middle East and other countries like Russia that HATE us.
........Plus the BIGGEST picture - less gasoline usage means less PLANET destroying Global Warming.

There is ANOTHER type of pollution that surrounds us in The Villages that goes virtually UNNOTICED. It is NOISE pollution! Sit outside .....ANYWHERE in TV Land and your ear drums will be attacked by the NOISE of LOUD, GASOLINE ENGINES. And, strangely, this are NOT the large displacement gas car and trucks ENGINES. They are the WHINNY small displacement gas weed eaters and edgers used by our many pay-to-cut PROFESSIONALS (because our amateur workers are too lazy and claim that they will miss out on an extra 9 holes of golf). If our healthy RETIRED citizens would shuffle their butts off to Home Depot and purchase some battery powered and QUIET weed eaters and hedge trimmers we would NOTICE the PEACE and QUIET. And besides the REDUCTION in the noise level by using electric versus gasoline small tools, WE would be putting out less air pollution. Thus helping the LUNGS of our fellow seniors that need ALL the lung function that they can possible have. Better lung function and better and less irritating hearing - folks .....its thee famous 2.....fer.
........Next we could talk about the medium sized polluting devices gasoline Golf Carts vrs E-Golf Carts. Just listen to (and SMELL) those gas golf cart as they WHIZZ by illegally going at 30 MPH and up. Why are they louder than your lovely Buick? Answer........because they have NO cat converter and a cheap minimal muffler. So, besides spouting out extra noise (for gas versus electric) they are spouting out BIG TIME POLLUTION. Another 2 fer !!!!!
.......Now, imagine a Village World with ZERO gas engines, only Electric. I wonder if you can. No air and noise pollution. I wonder if you can. Some say that I am a DREAMER, but i'm NOT the only one. No lung pollution to DIE for. I wonder if you CAN ?????????

No problem with trying to improve things by taking steps. What I object to are the mandates and edicts that seek to control our lives and reduce our freedoms, all in the name of a cause that you say "I'm not sure" about.

Would that be those same scientists that proved so trustworthy during the pandemic?
Or would it be the ones that are forced to conform to the approved narrative in order to continue receiving the grants that allow them to stay employed?

Just not sure which of those you are referring to.

Come on, people! The climate scam is not that hard to figure out. It is basic science. The earth is still in an ice age. We know this because most to the earth surface is desert or frozen. 400 ppm CO2 is near starvation level. 1200 ppm CO2 is optimal for biolife.

Haven't you figure out by now that everything you hear on the idiot box is a blatant lie?

Pretty much the same conspiracy theories from the same bunch of folks.

Most of the surface is frozen or desert? Really?

Of course, "ice age" is just a term humans invented to describe a time when the polar caps were covered by ice so yeah, we are in an ice age. And it's a very good thing we are since we don't want to experience the rise in sea level that would accompany a polar ice melt.

Not sure where you get your information from but humans don't survive well in atmospheres rich in CO2. I always thought humans were part of "biolife" but maybe not.

If you close down the oil fields your EV utopia is DOA...

You seem to forget that "fossil fuels" are still the primary fuel source for generating electricity, you know that "stuff" that charges your EV?

And.... wait for it.... provides the GAS for the on-board generator that charges your EV's battery for that extra range, the exact same range you would get with an ICE vehicle.

Don't feel bad I also fell for the EV hype, sold my Tesla after 1 year of ownership.

Ocean levels are measured all around the world by qualified scientists that would NOT risk their employment by engaging in "FAKE" science. You could NOT get each scientist in EVERY country around the world to enter a "CONSPIRACY" to manipulate data. Too many to POSSIBLY collude with.
......As far as the Pandemic is concerned, the scientists like Dr. Fauci were terribly and wrongly maligned for years. It was a total shame. The US lost about 150 million people because the evil propagandists (maybe Russian) wrongly told US citizens NOT to take their Covid vaccine, which was about the SAFEST vaccine in History. Those scientists should be everybody's heroes!

The term "idiot box" is completely ambiguous. What or which idiot box? That could refer to 6 or 7 possibilities.

Nobody wants to close down the oil fields (at least not completely in the US or anywhere). Because oil is NEEDED to make medications and products other than gas or diesel. The idea of EVs versus gas vehicles is that each e-vehicle produces zero pollution when it is moving versus the gas vehicle which produces a large amount when running. And both DO create pollution at the factories that produce them - no one is debating that. In the US (AT THE CURRENT TIME) the EV gets its energy from large stationary electrical generating plants. Which are much EASIER to have pollutant scrubbers for than the current catalytic converters on each car and truck. Today much of the US electrical energy comes from burning fossil fuel. But, in the FUTURE thee may be more SAFE NUCLEAR REACTORS and wind and solar (which is costing less and less).
........The idea is to use MUCH LESS oil by having more EVs. And they have MANY other advantages - they are practically maintenance FREE. EVs accelerate faster and brake better because they have a lower center of gravity. We have covered the air quality advantages. There is no wasted time on trips to the gas station. Range anxiety problems will be "a thing of the past" in a few years as charging stations double and triple. There are also other advantages!
......For curiosity sake........what was the problem with the Tesla? Most owners love them!

Your number of “150 million”
is way off but you make some other good points. We can all agree that the U.S. was totally unprepared for the pandemic. Hopefully we will learn and do better in the future.

No, being less than honest is always a bad move. Once you credibility is shot, there is no getting it back.

That isn't what I agreed with. The dishonesty is unforgivable. The expectation that people would act irresponsibly was right on.

And exactly how did people act irresponsibly ? Most shortages were due to supply chain issues. Expecting the worst from people? Very bad attitude to have.

Thank you for pointing out MY mistake (without calling me a dumb jerk, which I was). The correct number of Covid deaths (to this point) in the US is 1 million, 138 thousand. 150million would be about 1/2 of the US population. Hope that NEVER happens in the future.

Going from EV to Covid is about right for this forum.

I don't "expect the worst from people". On most issues, over 50% of the people get things correct according to surveys. What I see as the problem in the US and probably other countries is that the leaders and the Supreme Court should have term limits. Unlimited terms leads to greed and collusion for many leaders (not all, of course, but the majority, in my opinion).