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bobeaston 08-16-2024 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by LeRoySmith (Post 2360532)
We ride recumbent trikes quite a bit, in the neighborhood streets I like to ride on the wrong side so I can see oncoming traffic. I'm confident that's not how the law reads but these short trikes are easy to lose sight of from a car. We have flags but it's still an uneasy feeling to have a car sneak up on you.

If you meet a bike (trike) in your car or cart coming at you in a neighborhood does it bug you?

YES! "it bugs" me. Not only is it ILLEGAL, it is STUPID and SUICIDAL!
Florida law considers bikes as legal vehicles, and as such they need to follow traffic laws. That INCLUDES driving on the correct side of the street. Anything else is INVITING head-on collisions. Who thinks that's a good idea?

We too ride incumbent trikes. Yet we do it LEGALLY and safely. Working WITH traffic, with mirrors, and with flashing lights works very well for us.

This stupidity changed the subject. A man was killed because he didn't see what was bearing down on him. I had a boyhood friend killed the same way, by a car that hit him from behind. Pedestrians: PAY ATTENTION. Walk facing traffic. See who is going to run you down. The difference between pedestrians and trikes facing traffic is that pedestrians can easily step aside.

CoachKandSportsguy 08-16-2024 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by G.R.I.T.S. (Post 2360585)
Keywords: “hit from behind.” Always face traffic unless on a dedicated walking path!

walker was walking against the traffic "Westbound in the Eastbound lane"

golf cart was on the wrong side of the road, driving "Westbound in the Eastbound lane"

if the golf cart was electric, and within any normal age related hearing loss, the walker had no chance of survival.

In this case, cart driver loses her driver's license for life!

nn0wheremann 08-16-2024 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2360501)
Try to always walk facing oncoming traffic

He was. The golf cart driver was.in the wrong lane.

Gator_Girl 08-16-2024 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by LeRoySmith (Post 2360364)
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be careful folks, this was a guy walking his dog on a MMP and was hit from behind by a golf cart

What is top of the world?

golfing eagles 08-16-2024 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Gator_Girl (Post 2360628)
What is top of the world?

North Pole 😂😂😂

Seriously, it’s a retirement community near Ocala

Altavia 08-16-2024 07:01 AM

Very sad to see the fatalities that tragically impacts the lives of all involved.

People really need to be defensive on the streets and paths here.

If impeding traffic, try to avoid road rage and get out of the way when safe to let them pass.

A contributing factor is the infrastructure here in many cases is less than bike and pedestrian friendly.

No bike lanes on roads that have no shoulder and tall vertical curbs.

MMP's with no sidewalks to separate pedestrians from 20+ mph traffic.

Some gate intersections even force pedestrians to walk in the street at MMP connections.

karostay 08-16-2024 07:30 AM

Most bicyclists don’t abide by the rules of the road.
Ever see one stop at a stop 🛑

TeresaA 08-16-2024 07:30 AM

Yes, I have been really taken by surprise when rounding a corner and there is a bike coming right at me. I know it’s a MMP but it’s too dangerous because your bike is so low

Rocksnap 08-16-2024 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2360430)
Hey, yesterday’s Sumter Landing death can be blamed on a 23 year old driver hitting an elderly person. It isn’t always the old who are to blame.

As in hit from behind, either the person walking was on the wrong side of the road, or the cart was driving on the wrong side of the road. We can leave age out of this for the time being.

Normal 08-16-2024 07:44 AM

Yes
 
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Originally Posted by Rocksnap (Post 2360663)
As in hit from behind, either the person walking was on the wrong side of the road, or the cart was driving on the wrong side of the road. We can leave age out of this for the time being.

Yes, as you must have read, my response was to a post inferring that it’s because we live in a plus 55 neighborhood so expect it. It isn’t always age that causes these accidents just like the pedestrian hit at Sumter Landing proves.

Normal 08-16-2024 07:46 AM

Ambiguity
 
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Originally Posted by Rocksnap (Post 2360669)
Stop signs with white borders are only for cars.

And stop lines or signs in parking lots aren’t even enforceable.

Michael 61 08-16-2024 07:57 AM

When walking, I try to stay off the MMPs as much as possible - too many crazy cart drivers.

golfing eagles 08-16-2024 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocksnap (Post 2360669)
Stop signs with white borders are only for cars.

Uh-huh. Source, please.

Because I'll give you one:

"The standard size of a stop sign measures at 30 inches across with a white border of 20 mm (or a little less than an inch) around the sign1. The rumor that if you come to a “Stop” sign that has a white border around the edge, you don’t actually have to stop is false. Nearly every single stop sign has a white border around the edge, but you must stop at the sign and give way to traffic on a major road32."

golfing eagles 08-16-2024 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by karostay (Post 2360657)
Most bicyclists don’t abide by the rules of the road.
Ever see one stop at a stop 🛑

Unfortunately, at least here in TV, the cyclists focus on THEIR privileges and rights, but NOT their responsibilities. This would include stopping at stop signs, yielding at yield signs, and not treating a pack of 20 as if they were one entity among other things. When challenged on this site, they often reply that carts and cars do the same thing. A case of 2 wrongs making a right???? The other excuse is that it is inconvenient because they would have to take their foot out of their toe clips to come to a stop. AWW, too bad baby. I have to stop at a stop sign, even when it is "inconvenient", and it is among the responsibilities of a cyclist as well.

Let's not discuss cyclist's "rights" without discussing their responsibilities.

gorillarick 08-16-2024 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by LeRoySmith (Post 2360532)
We ride recumbent trikes quite a bit, in the neighborhood streets I like to ride on the wrong side so I can see oncoming traffic. I'm confident that's not how the law reads but these short trikes are easy to lose sight of from a car. We have flags but it's still an uneasy feeling to have a car sneak up on you.

If you meet a bike (trike) in your car or cart coming at you in a neighborhood does it bug you?

Noooooooooo. Riding the wrong way is even more dangerous than with traffic.
When people come to an intersection (whether they negligently plan to run the STOP sign or not),
they look left.
You would be on their right side. Boom. "Oh, I didn't see that woman riding the wrong way."

Several other reasons already covered. Ride with traffic, and get some rear view mirrors on the bike and your helmet or attached to your glasses !


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