Exactly, this thread has become beating a dead horse. There is nothing new and we are left with the left wingers and right wingers going at each other with no viable solutions in sight. I for one am done.

Jake Tapper CNN interviews Broward Sheriff Israel


TAPPER: The last question, sir. Do you think that if the Broward Sheriff's Office had done things differently, this shooting might not have happened?

ISRAEL: Listen, ifs and buts and candy and nuts, O.J. Simpson would still be in the record books.

TAPPER: I don't know what that means.
There's 17 dead people, and there's a whole long list of things your department could have been done differently.

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Insane this guy has not been fired yet. And let me guess he is making about 200K a year and will get a 90% pension, and tell us he hasn't taken a vacation in 10 years (wink wink) so he gets another 90K out the door.

Society is really on the down side slide......

I certainly have respect for young people and applaud those who are creative thinkers, especially those who exhibit a mind of their own and aren't afraid to speak it. I also believe these teenagers who were victims of a terrible tragedy deserve to be heard......absolutely!!

I don't think that questioning whether children should be at the forefront of policy decisions is an unsupported attack as you call it. Sometimes we adults put children in adult positions before they are ready for such responsibility. Consider their viewpoints - YES!; write them in stone - NO!

Just as an add-on to my last post - we don't know WHO these kids are being influenced by, IF anyone at all. Again, I go back to my teen years and recollect MANY influences on my life. I did not have the life skills yet to make big decisions and am sure if called on to do so, I would have been swayed by one influence or another.

This is not a bashing of these students, just a reality check - they are still children.

If I was smart, I would follow your lead. :thumbup:

I agree. Not one post put down these kids.

Broward county has a voter base that is different completely from Sumter County. Of course the population in Sumter is the oldest in the entire country, by county.

The kids are reflecting the views of their families I am sure. Maybe the families think this will help them through their grief.

I don't think these kids orchestrated this by themselves. Period and amen.

Silly. If he had a handgun or a hunting rifle, kids would still have been killed. The NRA had ZERO responsibility for those deaths. Inept FBI and untrained cowardly law enforcement have blood and deaths on their hands.

My honest opinion. I believe this young generation has too much information. The teen years are tough enough. If you look at the correlation between the violence in the schools and the rise of the information age its eye opening.

I totally agree Steve. Things happening too fast for teens to process. I think the amount of Pornography studies say they watch from a young age is very sad. It desensitizes them. There was a whole article about it in the NY Post recently. They come out with a very wrong outlook on the reality of things.

With that said no 18 year old needs an arsenal in his room and the age of weapons should be lifted IMO. Or, go join the military.

You know jack I think you're off a little by not acknowledging that fewer kids would have been killed.

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Yep, could not agree more. Its called brain washing. Expose a human mind to a constant diet of violence, pornography, and constant drama among themselves is not going to end well for some. Now do that to a teen who's body is a raging hormone machine and bang. Things can go wrong. Not some one I want to have access to firearms unsupervised.

Not really, you can fire bullets just as fast with a Glock pistol as you can with an AR 15

Here's Jerry Miculek firing 60 bullets in 5 seconds using 2 Glock 17s

glock vs ar 15 rapid fire - Bing video

You don’t know that. Point is that the NRA was not responsible for a single death so why are they being attacked instead of people who could have prevented it but didn’t? Incompetent, Cowardly law enforcement at all levels and the School District have blood and death on their hands and not the NRA or the Dog Catcher.