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redwitch 11-29-2017 07:16 PM

If this story is accurate, it is a prime example of a witch hunt. It was a single incident. It was a touching of bare skin on the back. It was not a groping. It was not even alleged that an inappropriate comment was made. I’m not a Keillor fan but he certainly doesn’t deserve this type of treatment for a single incident.

GoodLife 11-29-2017 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1482743)
If this story is accurate, it is a prime example of a witch hunt. It was a single incident. It was a touching of bare skin on the back. It was not a groping. It was not even alleged that an inappropriate comment was made. I’m not a Keillor fan but he certainly doesn’t deserve this type of treatment for a single incident.

You could be right, but I doubt they would fire him if that is all there is to the story. MPR found out about this a month ago and looks like they investigated. I doubt they would fire one of their headliners over nothing.

Last month, MPR was notified of the allegations which relate to Mr. Keillor’s conduct while he was responsible for the production of A Prairie Home Companion (APHC). MPR President Jon McTaggart immediately informed the MPR Board Chair, and a special Board committee was appointed to provide oversight and ongoing counsel. In addition, MPR retained an outside law firm to conduct an independent investigation of the allegations

Carl in Tampa 11-29-2017 08:09 PM

Witch Hunt, indeed.
 
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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1482743)
If this story is accurate, it is a prime example of a witch hunt. It was a single incident. It was a touching of bare skin on the back. It was not a groping. It was not even alleged that an inappropriate comment was made. I’m not a Keillor fan but he certainly doesn’t deserve this type of treatment for a single incident.

Keillor also says the touching was inadvertent, that he apologized immediately, and the apology was accepted.

I don't like Keillor's politics, but have been a fan of Prairie Home Companion for decades. He was an outstanding teller of tales, with a gentle wit. It's a shame that Minnesota Public Radio will no longer rebroadcast the old shows.

This is, as redwitch says, a prime example of a witch hunt. Keillor was already retired from on-air broadcasting. This charge against him was obviously a move for money.

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GoodLife 11-29-2017 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa (Post 1482769)
Keillor also says the touching was inadvertent, that he apologized immediately, and the apology was accepted.

I don't like Keillor's politics, but have been a fan of Prairie Home Companion for decades. He was an outstanding teller of tales, with a gentle wit. It's a shame that Minnesota Public Radio will no longer rebroadcast the old shows.

This is, as redwitch says, a prime example of a witch hunt. Keillor was already retired from on-air broadcasting. This charge against him was obviously a move for money.

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Keillor says... That's his story. Have you heard from the accuser yet?

Whatever it was, it was enough for MPR to completely sever the relationship. They’re cutting loose from all of Keillor’s commercial venues, and will no longer run PHC “best of” shows that Keillor hosted. He’s morphing from their most prominent celebrity into an Unperson as we speak. If that was just over a consensual affair, it would be a wild overreaction.

Move for money? Why would MPR fire their moneymaking headliner over nothing?

graciegirl 11-29-2017 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa (Post 1482769)
Keillor also says the touching was inadvertent, that he apologized immediately, and the apology was accepted.

I don't like Keillor's politics, but have been a fan of Prairie Home Companion for decades. He was an outstanding teller of tales, with a gentle wit. It's a shame that Minnesota Public Radio will no longer rebroadcast the old shows.

This is, as redwitch says, a prime example of a witch hunt. Keillor was already retired from on-air broadcasting. This charge against him was obviously a move for money.

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I agree.

Taltarzac725 11-29-2017 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1482779)
Keillor says... That's his story. Have you heard from the accuser yet?

Whatever it was, it was enough for MPR to completely sever the relationship. They’re cutting loose from all of Keillor’s commercial venues, and will no longer run PHC “best of” shows that Keillor hosted. He’s morphing from their most prominent celebrity into an Unperson as we speak. If that was just over a consensual affair, it would be a wild overreaction.

Move for money? Why would MPR fire their moneymaking headliner over nothing?

The climate of the time with sexual harassment becoming a topic of the hour. Lawyers will sue on anything if there is money to be had. And in my experience will not even take meritorious cases if there is no money to make. It is about the green.

The accused's character and other instances should be taken into account.

Carl in Tampa 11-30-2017 12:30 AM

Money for victimhood.
 
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Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa (Post 1482769)
Keillor also says the touching was inadvertent, that he apologized immediately, and the apology was accepted.

I don't like Keillor's politics, but have been a fan of Prairie Home Companion for decades. He was an outstanding teller of tales, with a gentle wit. It's a shame that Minnesota Public Radio will no longer rebroadcast the old shows.

This is, as redwitch says, a prime example of a witch hunt. Keillor was already retired from on-air broadcasting. This charge against him was obviously a move for money.

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1482779)
Keillor says... That's his story. Have you heard from the accuser yet?

Whatever it was, it was enough for MPR to completely sever the relationship. They’re cutting loose from all of Keillor’s commercial venues, and will no longer run PHC “best of” shows that Keillor hosted. He’s morphing from their most prominent celebrity into an Unperson as we speak. If that was just over a consensual affair, it would be a wild overreaction.

Move for money? Why would MPR fire their moneymaking headliner over nothing?

Perhaps I was unclear. The "move for money" was on the part of the woman making the complaint. Her lawyer contacted Keillor. I'm sure it was to see how much he was willing to pay to hush up the incident.

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Madelaine Amee 11-30-2017 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1482743)
If this story is accurate, it is a prime example of a witch hunt. It was a single incident. It was a touching of bare skin on the back. It was not a groping. It was not even alleged that an inappropriate comment was made. I’m not a Keillor fan but he certainly doesn’t deserve this type of treatment for a single incident.

Once again, I agree with Redwitch: He made an excellent comment for the press after the firing. Read his comments, they ring true with me.

Bay Kid 11-30-2017 08:25 AM

Glad I am not important. I might have done at least one or two things stupid in my life.

Taltarzac725 11-30-2017 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1482913)
Once again, I agree with Redwitch: He made an excellent comment for the press after the firing. Read his comments, they ring true with me.

They seemed sincere to me too. The woman seems to have been a friend after that happened. I had a "friend" who did something much worse than this in the Summer of 1988 and I tried to distance myself from him as far as possible. The lady did not do that She stayed friendly with Garrison Keillor. And now she is suing when the nation is full of sexual harassment allegations and lawyers looking to collect.

GoodLife 12-01-2017 03:23 PM

Funny how many here are willing to forgive Keillor based on one report with quotes on his side of story. MPR has known about this for a month, hired a lawyer to investigate, and they have decided to sever all connections. He was their star performer and moneymaker, they did not take this decision lightly.

Keillor himself issued a non denial saying he "didn't want to argue this" and has "had a great run"

I am pretty sure you have not heard the whole story.

graciegirl 12-01-2017 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1483661)
Funny how many here are willing to forgive Keillor based on one report with quotes on his side of story. MPR has known about this for a month, hired a lawyer to investigate, and they have decided to sever all connections. He was their star performer and moneymaker, they did not take this decision lightly.

Keillor himself issued a non denial saying he "didn't want to argue this" and has "had a great run"

I am pretty sure you have not heard the whole story.

I think you are a female, Goodlife, Am I right?

I feel for men who can have their life ruined with a false report. Sometimes a person's good name is forever tarnished due to someone who felt anger toward him for any number of things.

GoodLife 12-01-2017 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1483682)
I think you are a female, Goodlife, Am I right?

I feel for men who can have their life ruined with a false report. Sometimes a person's good name is forever tarnished due to someone who felt anger toward him for any number of things.

Gracie Dear, it matters not what gender I am. I am merely responding to news reports and comments here on this matter. The fact that MPR investigated this for a month with an independent lawyer and concluded the network should sever all relations with Keillor speaks volumes to me.

It doesn't matter whether you like Keillor or not.

fw102807 12-01-2017 04:46 PM

To me the difference is whether these men used a position of power to intimidate and degrade another person. If what he claims that he simply put his hand on her bare back and then apologized is true then this to me would not qualify as predatory just poor judgement, but he has stated that is all he can "remember". No one has actually heard what he is being accused of.

GoodLife 12-01-2017 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fw102807 (Post 1483697)
To me the difference is whether these men used a position of power to intimidate and degrade another person. If what he claims that he simply put his hand on her bare back and then apologized is true then this to me would not qualify as predatory just poor judgement, but he has stated that is all he can "remember". No one has actually heard what he is being accused of.

Exactly, but if they like Keillor they are willing to forgive.


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