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Villageswimmer 12-01-2017 08:18 PM

I expected more details on this to surface today. Since they haven’t, I strongly suspect a payoff. Keillor’s description of the event, assuming there was just one, was bizarre. MPR investigated took steps to minimize negative press and stifle the whole story. Just my opinion.

graciegirl 12-02-2017 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by fw102807 (Post 1483697)
To me the difference is whether these men used a position of power to intimidate and degrade another person. If what he claims that he simply put his hand on her bare back and then apologized is true then this to me would not qualify as predatory just poor judgement, but he has stated that is all he can "remember". No one has actually heard what he is being accused of.

I agree.

Taltarzac725 12-02-2017 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1482600)
Would have to see more about this "story" before reaching any kind of conclusion. Minnesota Public Radio fires Garrison Keillor for alleged impropriety

Hope to see a lot more links from various sources so that we can see what really happened here.

tagjr1 12-02-2017 07:05 PM

It seems that the way this is going most, if not all "teenagers" and older will be held accountable for "groping" and "heavy petting" when they were dating. Of course it goes without saying that both sexes should be held accountable.

ColdNoMore 12-02-2017 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tagjr1 (Post 1484194)
It seems that the way this is going most, if not all "teenagers" and older will be held accountable for "groping" and "heavy petting" when they were dating. Of course it goes without saying that both sexes should be held accountable.

It should also go without saying...'consent' is the key. :oops:

fw102807 12-02-2017 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1484199)
It should also go without saying...'consent' is the key. :oops:

Glad someone gets it.

2ndchance 12-10-2017 08:52 PM

I don't comment much on what I read but there's something I find kinda ironic. In a post titled 1950's values I seem to recall Redwitch referring to how poorly women were treated even after being sexually assaulted and the woman was always at fault. Redwitch sounded apaulled. Now a woman makes a claim against a radio personality she likes and it's a withhunt. I suppose it's her fault? It sounds a bit hypocritical and almost right out of the 1950's which you conveyed was so horrible. Rant over and out.

redwitch 12-11-2017 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 2ndchance (Post 1488134)
I don't comment much on what I read but there's something I find kinda ironic. In a post titled 1950's values I seem to recall Redwitch referring to how poorly women were treated even after being sexually assaulted and the woman was always at fault. Redwitch sounded apaulled. Now a woman makes a claim against a radio personality she likes and it's a withhunt. I suppose it's her fault? It sounds a bit hypocritical and almost right out of the 1950's which you conveyed was so horrible. Rant over and out.

A lot occurred in the 50s and. 60s and even the 70s that was acceptable then, not now. Sexual harassment was common and boys will be boys was the attitude. Smoking while pregnant was the norm, too. Both are wrong but I’m not going to hang someone for either.

IF Keillor’s version is even remotely accurate, then it has become a witch hunt. If there is more to the story, then it should come out so we can see the legitimacy of the firing. If it was only one event, then it is still a witch hunt.

Sexual harassment needs to stop. It is not okay to touch another without consent, regardless of who either individual is. However, if it is a one-time incident; several incidents that occurred decades ago; did not involve a minor; did not go beyond touching, then it is a witch hunt. Bring it out in the open, let the harasser apologize and let it go. Rape, stalking, sex or even attempted sex with a minor, press criminal charges if possible, ostracize the harasser, no excuses no matter who it is.

I can be appalled by someone’s past behavior and still not want to see them lose their job and be publicly humiliated. I truly admire the work Al Franken did in office but he forcibly kissed more than one woman and at least one act was recent. He needed to resign. Garrison Keillor bores me to tears but no other reports of incidents have been forthcoming. His firing, from the facts we have, is ridiculous. Had Moore (whom I find despicable regardless) harassed women when he was 30 rather than girls, I would say let it go. He chose to chase teenagers. He does not deserve sympathy, let alone a chance of public office. Things need to be put in context. Right now, any accusation can destroy a man, whether a minor transgression or a criminal act. That’s a witch hunt in my book.

Taltarzac725 12-11-2017 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1488199)
A lot occurred in the 50s and. 60s and even the 70s that was acceptable then, not now. Sexual harassment was common and boys will be boys was the attitude. Smoking while pregnant was the norm, too. Both are wrong but I’m not going to hang someone for either.

IF Keillor’s version is even remotely accurate, then it has become a witch hunt. If there is more to the story, then it should come out so we can see the legitimacy of the firing. If it was only one event, then it is still a witch hunt.

Sexual harassment needs to stop. It is not okay to touch another without consent, regardless of who either individual is. However, if it is a one-time incident; several incidents that occurred decades ago; did not involve a minor; did not go beyond touching, then it is a witch hunt. Bring it out in the open, let the harasser apologize and let it go. Rape, stalking, sex or even attempted sex with a minor, press criminal charges if possible, ostracize the harasser, no excuses no matter who it is.

I can be appalled by someone’s past behavior and still not want to see them lose their job and be publicly humiliated. I truly admire the work Al Franken did in office but he forcibly kissed more than one woman and at least one act was recent. He needed to resign. Garrison Keillor bores me to tears but no other reports of incidents have been forthcoming. His firing, from the facts we have, is ridiculous. Had Moore (whom I find despicable regardless) harassed women when he was 30 rather than girls, I would say let it go. He chose to chase teenagers. He does not deserve sympathy, let alone a chance of public office. Things need to be put in context. Right now, any accusation can destroy a man, whether a minor transgression or a criminal act. That’s a witch hunt in my book.

Red. I agree with you. Living in Minnesota though for 5.5 years I kind of learned how to appreciate Garrison Keillor. These things should be judged on verified accounts from all parties involved if at all possible. A legal process in other words and not gossip.

Villageswimmer 12-11-2017 01:10 PM

When no details are released, it usually indicates the accused admitted guilt, paid a cash settlement, and parties signed a confidentiality agreement. To label this a witch hunt is a leap.

GoodLife 12-11-2017 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1488199)
A lot occurred in the 50s and. 60s and even the 70s that was acceptable then, not now. Sexual harassment was common and boys will be boys was the attitude. Smoking while pregnant was the norm, too. Both are wrong but I’m not going to hang someone for either.

IF Keillor’s version is even remotely accurate, then it has become a witch hunt. If there is more to the story, then it should come out so we can see the legitimacy of the firing. If it was only one event, then it is still a witch hunt.

Sexual harassment needs to stop. It is not okay to touch another without consent, regardless of who either individual is. However, if it is a one-time incident; several incidents that occurred decades ago; did not involve a minor; did not go beyond touching, then it is a witch hunt. Bring it out in the open, let the harasser apologize and let it go. Rape, stalking, sex or even attempted sex with a minor, press criminal charges if possible, ostracize the harasser, no excuses no matter who it is.

I can be appalled by someone’s past behavior and still not want to see them lose their job and be publicly humiliated. I truly admire the work Al Franken did in office but he forcibly kissed more than one woman and at least one act was recent. He needed to resign. Garrison Keillor bores me to tears but no other reports of incidents have been forthcoming. His firing, from the facts we have, is ridiculous. Had Moore (whom I find despicable regardless) harassed women when he was 30 rather than girls, I would say let it go. He chose to chase teenagers. He does not deserve sympathy, let alone a chance of public office. Things need to be put in context. Right now, any accusation can destroy a man, whether a minor transgression or a criminal act. That’s a witch hunt in my book.

Last week, an MPR spokeswoman said the company had received multiple allegations of "inappropriate behavior" against Keillor involving one person who worked with him during his time hosting "A Prairie Home Companion." Keillor retired as host of the show in 2016, but had continued to work for MPR on various projects.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.3683203

MPR investigated this, hired an independent lawyer who looked into it, and reported to the board. He was their headliner/moneymaker. They did not fire him only for a "inadvertent" slip of his hand up someone's blouse.


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