Not being much of a sports fan I had never heard of him. As I see it he made some very bad choices and is simply paying the price. So much of the news is about what notorious acts various celebrities are committing I usually ignore it. Had not GG started this thread I still would not have heard of him since such news is on my personal "ignore" list.

What the heck was Lamar doing with Frodo? Was it another another bad hobbit?

On the record: Proceed at your own risk, there are those that take offense at humor under these circumstances. Of course , they will probably move on to respond to those that post it was his own fault

Off the record: Good one!:bowdown:

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The truth is I don't know any of those names or anything about the story. I'll read up on it now. I never mean to offend anyone at anytime and apologise if I did.
Frodo and Hobbit sounds like Fredo and habit and I went for it.


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[It's another a sad story.]

Nevermind.

"They" are saying he spent 75K at the who-er house.

That's nothing---wait till he gets his hospital bill. (Not making a joke of his tragedy, just pointing out the high cost of medical care)

Very best post.

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Being a Southern California girl and life long Laker fan, I find this a tragedy. Lamar had a huge talent for basketball but had a very tragic life. I find it very sad the direction his life took and blame the Kardashian connection for the quick descent. I also find some of the posts here insensitive at best. I will never understand people who find this amusing when you have never walked in his shoes and no nothing about his life. Shame on you.

I agree with your post, except for the blame on the Kardashian clan. He is an adult and made these desisions himself....actually after leaving the family.

I truly hope that no one here has to go through a similar situation in their family. If they did, they would realize how insensitive their comments are.

He is a drugie, jail would be a good final resting place

I try to make people laugh with bad puns, playing with words, exaggerated life experiences or over the top dumbness, like Gracie Allen use to do. As a boy I always felt bad whenever Moe slapped Curly or Abbot picked on Costello. I didn't get it. I still don't. So I will continue to do what I do but I can't purposely make a wise crack at anyone's else's expense. That's not me.
I use to know a Greek Tragedy joke but I can't find it online. It has something to do with an Italian who walks into Homer's Taylor shop and Homer says to the customer "Hey, You Rippa Dees?"

Lamar Odom
 

Good night Gracie! :jester: And you do it well.

I don't know why that we can't say how we feel. I think he brought this on himself. What more is there to it? He could have done a lot of things, a lot of things that wouldn't have led him to this. We do have choices every day. Except for accidents, we all have a lot to say about our destiny.


His family is not reading this. We aren't writing a letter to his family. This is something that some of us have an opinion on and it reflects our values and our history and our life experience. We all could have chosen things that would cause harm to us and bring shame to our families.


Most of us would not wish harm on anyone, but we can sure see what paths lead many to destruction and most of us have chosen not to go down them. We can't help cancer and accidents, and trees falling on us, but we can choose who we hang out with and how we spend our money and most of us have enough sense to come in out of the rain and not to start with dope.



It is WHAT makes our hearts bleed that tells a good bit about us. It is as if he raised a gun and shot himself in the head. He HAD the world by a string and chose to gamble with it..

AND another thing I have learned in the last ten years. Men are far more fragile and sensitive than most women. That is why they often joke about things of enormous seriousness. That is why it is called gallows humor.


Some things are untouchable, but a guy who ends up drugged up in a brothel is fodder for that kind of comic relief. It is such a detour from good sense...


They weren't joking nor would they about the infant and his father killed in the car crash in Orlando this afternoon. The mother doesn't look like she will live. Now that is unspeakable heartbreak.

There is a balance between good taste and bad taste that applies across the board.

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Of course you can say how you feel. And so can I.
You feel he brought this on himself, which is true. I feel he has a serious drug addiction. I think that is also true.
We could debate whether an addictive personality can be cured. But let's not.

I heard on the news that he has snapped out of it. I can't help but wonder if this is one of those Kardashian things.

Looks like it's true:

Lamar Odom regains consciousness, family and friends say - Yahoo News

I hope he straightens his life out in the aftermath of this close call

Exactly. You can't get any closer to rock bottom than this!

Agree with this.

I heard he woke up but is brain-damaged and still in serious condition.

My grandmother told me that some things are worse than death.

It's important to note that addiction is a disease, not simply a poor life choice. Many fall prey to this disease for a vast variety of reasons. Unfortunately, we shame the unknown, yet offer prayers and support for the well-known. They all deserve our prayers. Lamar Odom has the funds, the means, and the positive support, yet still fights a losing battle with it. How difficult it must be for so many others. I've seen it in many Soldiers, as well as others. Instead of damning them to hell, please offer prayers and/or encouragement that they may find a way to want to help themselves. Most humans don't want to be miserable or judged as worthless. Just my thoughts.

:agree:

Another question however--
Is it clear he has a chronic addiction, or did he just go and party excessively and something got way out of hand?

Very good post. I agree.

This was the end result of a long time drug addiction that has ruined his life. Maybe if he survives, he will have the opportunity to turn it around.

There were pictures of him on TMZ and the camera was following him around at the pleasure ranch and if I know anything about humans he seem to enjoy the limelight.

He could have left. I think it is more than addiction or less than addiction. It turned me waaaaay off.

The media covers this s$it because it sells more media. They should be doing biographies on the Doctors without Borders that lost their lives. They are true heros. Most sports "hero's" are thugs and should be treated as such. People that follow the lives of Kardashians and worship thugs should not reproduce.

Well, this IS a free country...

His first words...
 

I understand his first words were "What a ride!"

:faint:

Advertisers turn these ordinary people with special skills into heroes and role models just to sell shoes, clothes and cars and a lot of people buy into it. Next fans feel let down if they don't live up to expectations. I think it's a mistake to encourage children to look for role models they don't know personally. Pick out a relative or a neighbor and sing their praises. That's what we did.
In the good old days, reporters looked the other way if you were famous. Now everyone is a reporter and everyone has a camera.

75k for hookers????? what happen to the 2 bit hookers grand pa talked about???

SMD...... stupid man disease

I find it sad too... we all have our demons :(

I don't think very many of us can say we never did anything stupid or dangerous in our lives. If it resulted in death or permanent injury, not too many of us would still be around, so don't be so quick to say Lamar "deserved" it. Remember, it only takes a second to exercise bad judgment, but it can take a lifetime to pay for it.

When he can his only path to rite the ship is to humble himself and say to someone that he wants help. I, you, his mother in law, wife, everybody and anybody can want him to get into recovery but it must be him that says enough is enough. Something like this as bad as it seems doesn't even add up to a pimple on the butt of a addict. You can't scare a addict....the addiction is way stronger. I think it's one out of every 35 people who try & recover that actually does. Very sad. God help him & those close to him.