You must be a certified psychic to live in this town.

If my kids said that I would make them defend their statement.

Who certifies a psychic?

How can a municipality govern who lives there? It seems like the civil rights people would be all over that.

I am only debating and no malice meant.

There is a Spiritualist Camp there.

Cassadaga Spiritualist Camp

Cassadaga, Florida - Wikipedia

Some how, my Bride knows what I'm thinking.

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There is a lot of THAT going on in our house too.

The Salk Institute has researched the fact that certain people are more tuned into facial expressions and body language than others. Many people affected with Williams Syndrome were better at this than the general population. AND

Some people with Autism are less likely to pick up social or emotional cues from others faces or body language than the general population and those with the same level of cognitive functioning. Dr. Ursula Belugi has researched this kind of thing for more than twenty years.

Or maybe,

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The answer is...................
 

:agree: More about that under my second point, below.

1. James Randi, who was a stage illusionist (magician), became convinced that "Psychics" and "Mediums" were fakes who used tricks similar to the "magic tricks" of other stage magicians for the purpose of deluding people into believing in Psychic abilities, usually for the purpose of making money and gaining fame.

Accordingly, he raised $1,000,000 (one million dollars) which he offered to anyone who could "demonstrate evidence of any paranormal, supernatural, or occult power or event under test conditions agreed to by both parties." Although many people made the attempt, including on live television, no one ever was able to claim the prize.

At the bottom of this page I am linking a 17 minute video in which Randi discusses phony Psychic abilities, as well as the farce of homeopathic medicine. It is worth your time to view this video.

Incidentally, there are videos on youtube in which Randi debunks James Hydrick, Maureen Flynn, Uri Geller (the spoon bender) and Faith Healer Peter Popoff. The trickery used by Popoff is reproduced in the Chevy Chase movie Fletch Lives.

2. Now about Harry Houdini. Like Randi, Houdini was a professional illusionist, and also an escape artist. Unlike Randi, Houdini wanted desperately to believe in being able to communicate with the dead. That is why he started going to Mediums. However, as a professional illusionist, he quickly saw through their deceits, and became disillusioned. Thereafter, he undertook to determine the methods of each Medium so he could expose them.

Houdini had his appendix ruptured in a freak accident. Knowing that he was dying he told his wife that if there were any way possible he would communicate with her after his death. He never did.


3. My examples above might lead you to believe that I don't believe that it is possible to communicate with the dead. Well, hold that thought for a minute.

I am a Christian. The Bible tells me that we should not consult mediums or attempt to communicate with the dead.

a. "There shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, one who uses divination, one who practices witchcraft, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer, or one who casts a spell, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead. - Deut. 18:10-11

b. "Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be defiled by them. I am the LORD your God." Lev. 19:31

MY CONCLUSION is that either:

Psychics and/or Mediums are phony, skillful illusionists who use trickery to deceive people, either for fame or for financial gain, or

There are Mediums who have occult powers, but God forbids having any interaction with them.

James Randi: Homeopathy, quackery and fraud | TED Talk | TED.com

I read a few articles about this medium and she is requesting a donation of $10.00 a person. I think that amount is quite fair.

My last posting regarding this was deleted. Again, what Christian church would allow a medium through it's doors ? Am I missing something here ?


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Spiritualist Religion
 

OK, Christians, before you fall into error, click on the link to the Cassadaga Spiritualist Camp and read their own words, "Spiritualism is a religion that is not based on a relationship with a particular savior. It recognizes all prophets that have come to humankind throughout the ages, not setting one above the other.

Christians associate themselves with this "religion" at great risk.

Tell that to the pastor of Unity.


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Now I know psychiatrists certify psychos but who certifies psychics?

Meanwhile, I am still stuck on trying to understand the cause of the Taos Hum which some believe may be spirits attempting to contact the living (without the need of a medium?). The Taos Hum - Aquiziam

How do you know the dead is not talking thru this website??

No. You can not communicate with the dead. Most people can barely communicate with the living. I suppose if you're hard up enough you'll do anything to speak to those you've lost, but it's you who are lost and those who tell you they can having the last laugh. Extreme longing will make people do and believe just about anything. Really sad.

Not mainstream Christian
 

At the risk of another deletion, and making no reference to any post on any other thread, Unity Church is not a Christian Church within the traditional Christian tradition.

When I was younger, my dad had an interest in Unity and we attended a couple of meetings. Unity Church followers believe in the divinity of Jesus, but only in the sense that all humans are the children of God and share that divine potential. They believe that Jesus was a master teacher who expressed this divine potential and sought to show others how to do the same. Unity uses the term "Christ" to mean the divinity in all people. For them Jesus is the great example of the Christ in physical form.

This is outside the mainstream of Christian belief and is unacceptable. It may also explain why a spiritualist (religion) person is welcome in a Unity Church.

Some of the responses have had me wondering but it would be quite hard to type with no fingers or even hands.

Facts rule
 

Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa
OK, Christians, before you fall into error, click on the link to the Cassadaga Spiritualist Camp and read their own words, "Spiritualism is a religion that is not based on a relationship with a particular savior. It recognizes all prophets that have come to humankind throughout the ages, not setting one above the other.

Christians associate themselves with this "religion" at great risk.

Unity is outside the mainstream of traditional Christianity, as I explain in another post, which you are free to read.

" Fools and their funds are early parted" old English adage

Sad commentary on scammers who take advantage of emotionally distressed people.

Has the moderator deleted posts from this thread? Why would that be?

I am thinking we are all staying within the subject matter. Some of us do not believe in mediums and some of us do believe in mediums.

We are taught as Catholics not to believe in this kind of thing. I don't know what other churches say.

Ten dollars a person is fair for WHAT? Ten people is a hundred dollars and that is a nice amount of money. 100 people is even a nicer, a goodly amount of money. It makes me suspicious that someone is performing for the money. Would they contact the dead person for no money?

Kinda like annuity sales outfits offering free dinners?

May the point not be to edify but to sign up customers?

Sounds about right. The ultimate time share!

Quackery, I figure it dead relative wanted to contact me, the wouldn't need Middle person. They WOULD Just do it!

All this discussion... you would want to believe that by now given the average age of the people on this forum that the answer to the threads question would be Occam Razor applies. Simply stated human beings grieve over the loss of love ones and in a sort a desperation fantasize about the thought of having one more conversation with them. Ask your self how many times in your minds eye have you talked to a love one as if they were going to really listen.

I talk to my wife all the time and she rarely listens. But I rarely listen to her either. (Clarification: We are both living):1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Well, the good news is that the questions will be answered when they thaw out Ted Williams.

I lay blame on the fact that I can't hear here because I am losing my hearing:D... did you say dinner...no I said simmer down:D

I use that excuse also:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Unfortunately, she was present when I scored 100% on my hearing test. I now tell her she doesn't speak loud enough:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Well......
 

Over the years, have had two interactions with mediums. Actually the first was John Edward. He was doing an event in San Diego. Thought I might like to see just what he does and how he does it. Had a friend who was the guest who had a reading on John's first tv series. Well, I brought along my husband and his mom. The hall had many people listening and hoping. Watched John like a hawk....was he going to do "cold readings?" I'd watch and see just how specific he was with what he was "channeling." The three of us were seated on the side where there were few individuals. Suddenly he said he was getting a message from someone who lost their life in a plane crash. He looked over to where we were sitting, said it was for an individual right where we were. Well, Mike's Mom had lost her husband in a plane crash years and years ago. John went on to give information that was specific to how, what, when, that were unique to this situation. Was it a cold reading? Made sure Mom did not offer any information that could help the famous psychic. It was interesting because it didn't follow what one would consider "parlor trickery." Was it real? I don't know, but it was extremely surprising.

Another medium is a friend of a friend and I hosted dinner at my home for them the evening after her presentation. She did a short reading for me during the event. Was it accurate? It was. Was it specific and not cold reading? Again it was. Was it real? I'm not sure, but I do know this woman is a loving and caring individual and we had a great evening filled with lively and funny conversation....about all sorts of things.

I would love to speak to my Mom, Dad or Mother In Law who have all passed away but as badly as I would like that to happen I would never pay.

The only thing I ever experienced was something you may remember on I Love Lucy. Ethel to Tilly come in Tilly. Scary and funny as a child but nothing for me to pay attention to now. If my family who passed need me they know where to reach me....at the pool.

Mediums/clairvoyants, holding paid performances in supposed mainstream churches...is simply bizarre to me. :ohdear:

When your dead, your dead. Period

I already stated a lot of this in another thread. Alien contact is very unlikely because of the distances involved
and the fact that it is unlikely we are known by other civilizations. Communication with the dead is very unlikely because there is no hard evidence to prove it.

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Amazing grace! How sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me!
I once was lost, but now am found;
Was blind, but now I see.

My blessed mother shoved a fifth of Irish whiskey under her dead fathers arm while he slept in his coffin. Trust me, that bottle is empty now.:pray:

It is all the non-psychic adult children who live with their parents that cause all the trouble in that town.

Yes. We experienced it first hand after a loss in our family. Was with a well known medium from New York. His name is George Anderson. And the reading was legit.

That is a nice amusing twist on this thread.