Has anyone checked to see if a permit has been granted by the National Park Service for this march to take place?

I have no idea but it is possible that a permit has been issued and that someone in National Park Service "overlooked" the date. Odd things do happen like that when important dates are requested. One that comes to my mind is the August 28 March on Washington in 1963 when Martin Luther King stood on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial for his I Have A Dream speech. This was sullied last year when Glenn Beck chose that day and place for his rhetorical slur filled speech. The National Park Service should not have let that happen.

I just called the National Park Service in Washington and they did not know of any permit that has been issued. Of course, I would not rely on those 3 calls regarding this issue as gospel truth but it is a start.

Good info. I have done a bit of research on this, and instead of risking political comment would suggest anyone interested simply google the name

Md Rabbi Alam

He appears to be the moving force, but again be warned, this appears to have political motivation.

For me, the good news is that the march does not appear to be getting a lot of traction...attention, but not traction. Of course the organizers claim the opposite and it remains to be seen how many show up, permit status, etc.

i respectfully disagree with buggyone's representation of glenn beck's rally in washington...millions of americans came out to be inspired to work for our country's constitution and liberty, and left the place cleaner than when they got there...a huge group of pastors, the black robes, vowed to speak from the pulpit, which is their right, to bring important issues up to their congregations. informed voters with similar values can bring this country back to where it belongs. there is strength in numbers. it reminds me of poland's rebirth after Pope John Paul II visited there in 1979, the impetus for the solidarity movement.

I agree totally. Our generation and maybe some of our children have a basis for an effort to put the country back where it belongs. The rest and the younger generations and those subsisting on entitlement programs do not. As a result, far too many do not care as they may have a view that things are just fine like they are....

"I don't have to work and I still get paid, plus all the goodies (food stamps/subsidies/allowances/etc) I get to feed me and my family....what's the problem?"

I fear the majority has been too silent for too long and the hill to climb back to where we should be is more steep than many want to deal with. Add to that the number who will not join such a movement due to a perception problem.

As unfortunate as it may sound, there will most likely have to be a major disruption of some kind that will unite and inspire us once again to put this country back on a path that is for the benefit of we the people....not just a playpen for politicians, their supporters and special interest groups.

btk

You want to get this country back to where it once was then let's attack a real problem and stop blaming entitlements. Figure out a way to stop the ongoing transfer of wealth from the middle class upward. Without a strong middle class this country will never be what you or I want it to be again regardless of the entitlements issue.

It's just to easy to blame those who receive entitlements as the problem.

We can start with real tax reform and stop giving big business all the breaks. They are the real entitlement thieves.

I would approve of a million Muslim march before any amount with Glenn Beck. I do not wish to offend any beck supporters, but as a retired military man with great love for this country, I find him more dangerous to our country than an attempt to change our view of the Muslims intent for their future in America.

On the assumption you have read about the guy who runs this group and the group itself, you really said a mouthful !!!

This thread is STILL NOT WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT.......however, having said that again and again, there have been MANY tax reforms floated in Washington. I suggest you read them and why they die to be a bit better informed. It is not what you think.

But again, this is a thread about the Musliim March, not all your posts which keep going off subject.

I have not read nor know anything about him. My point is that it will take more than a march of a million Muslims to convert Christians or even to gain Christian support for their future in this great nation.

Now Beck on the other hand is very methodical in his attempt to divide our country into civil unrest. I fear what he is attempting to do much more than a Muslim flexing his position.

I have mentioned this in at least TWO posts on this thread. The agenda is POLITICAL by their own admission....the Muslim thing...well, read about them...this is a hate group with pollitical ambition before you start making such statments. Read the agenda....read about the guy who runs it..PLEASE before posting.

Please Bucco understand, I have no doubt that this group is a hate group, I am trying to get across that so is Glenn and he is more dangerous because he professes to be a Christian. It is easy to ignore a Muslim hate mongrel, but many will believe hate speech from a fellow American.

This thread was not begun to bash Glen Beck or anyone else. Why dont you limit your comments to the thread and if you wish to bash someone, start a new thread 1

If you are not afraid of hate groups....fine ! If you agree that Jews were behind the 9/11 incident fine...but you cant hijack somebodys threat to vent over a political figure you dont like

Just what do you think wealthy people do with their money? Hide it under the bed?

They invest which creates jobs. They spend which creates jobs.

The creep of wealth up instead of staying in the middle class is due to a generational deficiency in personal productivity. Fewer and fewer people are willing to do what it takes to make it in life. More and more feel that they ought to reach a status quo where they always have what they need without realizing that maintaining a net asset status quo actually requires an every increasing amount of work.

If you want to be rich and pay more taxes, just get up early and work very very hard and work past the age of 65 and then everyone will say how lucky you are not to worry about money and look down on you.

I am sorry if you feel I have hijacked this thread, I will go back and read the entire thing carefully. I only commented on four previous posts that included bech as a comparison to other hate groups.

I also think you are very wrong about the Jews being the cause of 911. I feel they had nothing to do with it. I think it was a Muslim inspired group similar to the group that is planning the million Muslim march and I am very afraid of them, but not as much as I am afraid of Glenn Beck.

Thank you very much.
:bigbow:

I am going to be working 6 weeks after they put me 6 feet under!

I agree and the ones that take advantage of the programs meant for the ones in need should not be tolerated. Our dear leaders need to tighten the belt enough to squeeze out the lazy and undeserving.

You really have not been reading.

I NEVER EVER SAID OR IMPLIED ANYTHING THAT YOU ATTRIBUTE TO ME AND I REALLY RESENT THAT YOU SAID THAT.

You have been so intent on bashing, you have failed to recognize what is going on here and you have said that the hate you have attributed to me is better than Glen Beck for some reason

I implore you to please understand what you are saying before you say it.

This forum has such opportunities to learn what is really going on in this world, but you have to READ.....READ

Sorry, I will bock your posts so we can eliminate your misunderstanding of my posts. Now, when you read any of my posts, LIKE those in this thread I was not talking to you. Again sorry for the misunderstanding. I will go to user cp right now and block you. Please do the same for me.

Block completed.

Please try to stay on topic of the Muslim March and avoid interpersonal disputes, side tracks, and encroaching into partisan political territory.

If this trend continues, the thread will have to be closed.

Sorry can't respond it would be too political.

"Has anyone checked to see if a permit has been granted by the National Park Service for this march to take place?

I just called the National Park Service in Washington and they did not know of any permit that has been issued. Of course, I would not rely on those 3 calls regarding this issue as gospel truth but it is a start."

I am reposting my post and taking out the part that took everyone off the topic of this thread. However, before taking the Muslim March as something that IS going to happen, it would be prudent to find out for sure IF it is going to happen for sure. As I said, my 3 calls to the permit department of the National Park Service did not bring forth any knowledge on their part - but who knows? Do some checking on your own and then post what you found. Remember, if it is on the Internet, it has to be true (?) Uhh, bonjour!

I spoke to this in post 82 in response to your first comment. An application was filed, the name the got changed and it is not getting much traction.

Seems the reason is the agenda they have which I posted and if you google the name I supplied, you will find out why this group, in my opinion, has no shot. It is a political motivation causing chaos.

I hope you are right, Bucco. It is a really bad idea to have such an event anytime and especially on such a day as Sept. 11.

"An Islamic group's plan for a 'Million Muslim March' on the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks on the United States has sparked outrage among many who call the timing 'insensitive.'
The American Muslim Political Action Committee says it wants to use the 12th anniversary of the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington to march on the National Mall and protest against what the group says is discrimination against Muslims by Americans and the U.S. government.
However, the group's plan might be a little too ambitious. AMPAC, based in Kansas City, Missouri, has just 57 supporters signed up for the September 11 event on Facebook."


Fury over 'Million Muslim March' scheduled for 9/11 - even Islamic group planning it has only 57 supporters | Mail Online

Wow 11 people ... Hardly room for concern and all these posts about something that would probably have gone unnoticed. Moving along ...

On behalf of all those who sincerely posted here AND STAYED ON SUBJECT, I disagree. People had concerns and if you had read anything about it, it was nationwide. If you had read about the issue being discussed, you would have understood the group behind it and the reason for concern.

I did not count the posts that were not even close to the subject, but there were many.

Thanks to TEXINVA for starting the thread and to those who sincerely discussed the Muslim presence in this country.

The one thing that still nags is the part in the muslim's operating manual that says all non-believers must be killed. That's me, and I've got a problem with that.

I agree.

Until I see or hear a Jihad by the Muslim Religion/leaders AGAINST the likes of Mohammed Atta (murderer who drove the UA 767 into the WTC) and all future so-called martyrs I hold them accountable. I do not feel as dispassionately about this march as other posters seem to feel. I think it is an outrage that they would even dare to march on September 11th!

Some folks have a problem with pointing out things like this, could be political stand, or lack of any knowledge at all about current events.

It does not say that.

His group had a march but apparently they cleaned up after themselves so hey we're ok.

Granddaughter studied world religions in a state college (not a religious one) because she was interested in that part of history. She is young and liberal but she knows that the Quran does say just that. Actually infidels need be converted or killed.

But on the plus side, not all people practice their faith to the letter no matter what faith that is. It is frightening to me that as a person is a more intense and involved follower of Islam he becomes a bigger danger.

I too wish that more "official" Muslims would be more vocal in their abhorance of actions like the Boston Bombings. I see them interviewed but they make general statements that kind of miss the mark for me.

I try to be a person who keeps an open mind and I do believe that very few Muslims are radical, but I also think the radical ones are here...waiting to act.

Since NOBODY, NOT ONE POSTER has actually done anything but criticize RADICAL Islam. NEVER been a bad word said about the normal Islamic person that may be a neighbor, a golf partner or such, and it has been made very very clear that the conversation is about RADICAL Muslims, my question for these, obvious uninformed posters, WHY DO YOU CONTINUE TO SUPPORT AND DEFEND RADICAL MUSLIMS ?

A fair question, assuming these folks are actually READING the posts, the news, the backgrounds of the radical hate groups at play here, that they find it necessary to defend these radicals.

In the interest of fairness, let us hear. You have made this support abundantly clear and obviously are in the camp of Md Rabbi Alam and his followers.

You ignored the post on the killing in the Mideast by those groups you support, and change the subject to some weakness in the USA.

Please allow us how you arrived at your support for this group ?

They are instructed by the Quran to attack this infidels who would do bodily harm against other Muslims. They do not have carte Blanche to go out and kill all Christians just because they disagree ... I think we already covered that.

I defer to your scholarship.

Little G and I talked about this issue just three days ago. She wasn't a history major and took this course for her pure interest in the diversity of the world. She was on the Deans list for four years and is employed in her field of journalism as an executive producer of news at a major network affiliate in a moderate sized city. She is heading more toward moderate thinking every day. Maybe because of spending six months monitoring police calls at the TV station before being promoted..

I hope she never loses her altruism and open mind or her hard work ethic. She has great parents.

Back to the point, when young Muslim men become more intensely interested in their faith, I hold my breath. Testosterone and idealism and youth and some bad teachings cause innocent people who did not harm anyone to be blown up, killed and maimed.

I do not think the brothers whose name I cannot spell were deranged or mentally ill like the sick young man who killed the children in Connecticut, or the mentally sick young man who shot people in the movie, nor political extremists like the Oklahoma bomber. I think they were religious extremists and that is very worrying.

We Americans usually associate religion with good and kind things.

I may be wrong in my summary so far but I keep an open mind and I have learned much from my fellow seniors on this forum and am not set in my way of thinking.

But at this point I think there is real danger from Muslim extremists who live among us.

What further galls me is the whole family of the brothers were living off public assistance. Went to the gym, one had a wife in a burka who worked and he didn't, a mom who took a course in cosmetics paid for by the government, both men had gone to college on The American dime...it just doesn't seem right on any level.

P.S. We paid for little G's tuition. Neither of us had the money for college when we were young.

Good post, and once again since this thread and discussion was all about EXTREMISTS AND RADICALS, and since the reason for the march has been posted, and the bio of the leaders now known.....WHY SOUNDS OF THOSE WHO DEFEND.

Just post why the defense of radicals and extremists which you clearly have been doing ?

Good post Grace....just hard to figure who would defend these people like is being done here.

Cause some people just like to be ornery not matter what the cause.