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" I noticed this article about a planned "Million Muslim March" in Washington scheduled for 11 September.

'Million Muslim March' Scheduled for Sept. 11 Reorients to Seek 9/11 'Truth' - Washington Whispers (usnews.com)

I wondering how people might feel about this ?? Is this a positive development, negative, not sure or what?

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This is part of the link supplied.......


""We want to hold President Obama accountable for his empty promises of creating a transparent government," march organizer Isa Hodge told U.S. News. "What exactly have we spent all our money, lost lives and taken lives for? The entire record of the 9/11 Commission has never been released."

Protesters will also denounce "FBI traps," "illegal tapping and surveilling of Muslim Americans" and "media propaganda making the word terrorist synonymous with Muslim," he said."


This thread has been turned into a discussion of how our country is screwing up in the middle east, and our energy policies.

If you folks think that our energy policy is behind terrorism and the muslim aggressive approach then you are extemely naive.

Posters seem to be pre programmed to defend this march, date included as something so worthwhile.....saying they have a point, etc.

Sorry, from my perspective and speaking to the actual subject of this thread, a march with a VERY VERY POLITICAL agenda for the most part on a day that killed so many people OF ALL RELIGIONS. To march on that day saying that muslims are being singled out....sorry, I find it repulsive.

Do we make mistakes...sure.....but do not twist the context of this thread to fit some need to be contrary which seems to be the case.

I have no desire to have the government take over the oil industry. But if the oil companies (and other energy companies...coal, et. Al.) are allowed to go after the resources within our own borders, I have no doubt the US will end up with more...and cheaper...energy.

I think it is safe to say that the Middle East is all about oil. We would Not even be there if it was not.

I respectfully disagree with you.

None of the many wars going on there are in the least related to oil.

I suggest that in today's world with the proliferation of nuclear weapons, we will be wherever they are to protect our interests.

I suggest that if threats such as we continually get came from any other region, we will be there.

I do not disagree that oil is an issue, but you are using it in your argument to prove USA malfeasance in energy and world politics.

The world is now a "small" place....technology is scary. As we have read,this hate we face is not new, not related to oil, but is now easier than ever to manifest and there is no worry of those you want to kill. It does not require a large army any longer.

Israel is another large component irregardless of oil.

Furthermore, the planners spelled out their issues, and they were pretty much, as I see them, unrelated to oil. I think their statements about our country INTERNALLY were clear

You seem to ignore the entire thrust of the post...the march, the date, the issues raised. I

When I read threads like this, I read the content, but I also read the presenters.

Time and time and time again, they never disappoint. They ARE who they ARE.

With age comes wisdom and more conservative thinking but for some posters, I always read anger and very little in the way of logical arguments.

I hope to measure up to the standards of the sage posters some day. I learn so much from this forum, not only from people with whom I most always agree but from those with whom I most always don't agree.

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Has anyone checked to see if a permit has been granted by the National Park Service for this march to take place?

I have no idea but it is possible that a permit has been issued and that someone in National Park Service "overlooked" the date. Odd things do happen like that when important dates are requested. One that comes to my mind is the August 28 March on Washington in 1963 when Martin Luther King stood on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial for his I Have A Dream speech. This was sullied last year when Glenn Beck chose that day and place for his rhetorical slur filled speech. The National Park Service should not have let that happen.

I just called the National Park Service in Washington and they did not know of any permit that has been issued. Of course, I would not rely on those 3 calls regarding this issue as gospel truth but it is a start.

Good info. I have done a bit of research on this, and instead of risking political comment would suggest anyone interested simply google the name

Md Rabbi Alam

He appears to be the moving force, but again be warned, this appears to have political motivation.

For me, the good news is that the march does not appear to be getting a lot of traction...attention, but not traction. Of course the organizers claim the opposite and it remains to be seen how many show up, permit status, etc.

i respectfully disagree with buggyone's representation of glenn beck's rally in washington...millions of americans came out to be inspired to work for our country's constitution and liberty, and left the place cleaner than when they got there...a huge group of pastors, the black robes, vowed to speak from the pulpit, which is their right, to bring important issues up to their congregations. informed voters with similar values can bring this country back to where it belongs. there is strength in numbers. it reminds me of poland's rebirth after Pope John Paul II visited there in 1979, the impetus for the solidarity movement.

I agree totally. Our generation and maybe some of our children have a basis for an effort to put the country back where it belongs. The rest and the younger generations and those subsisting on entitlement programs do not. As a result, far too many do not care as they may have a view that things are just fine like they are....

"I don't have to work and I still get paid, plus all the goodies (food stamps/subsidies/allowances/etc) I get to feed me and my family....what's the problem?"

I fear the majority has been too silent for too long and the hill to climb back to where we should be is more steep than many want to deal with. Add to that the number who will not join such a movement due to a perception problem.

As unfortunate as it may sound, there will most likely have to be a major disruption of some kind that will unite and inspire us once again to put this country back on a path that is for the benefit of we the people....not just a playpen for politicians, their supporters and special interest groups.

btk

You want to get this country back to where it once was then let's attack a real problem and stop blaming entitlements. Figure out a way to stop the ongoing transfer of wealth from the middle class upward. Without a strong middle class this country will never be what you or I want it to be again regardless of the entitlements issue.

It's just to easy to blame those who receive entitlements as the problem.

We can start with real tax reform and stop giving big business all the breaks. They are the real entitlement thieves.

I would approve of a million Muslim march before any amount with Glenn Beck. I do not wish to offend any beck supporters, but as a retired military man with great love for this country, I find him more dangerous to our country than an attempt to change our view of the Muslims intent for their future in America.

On the assumption you have read about the guy who runs this group and the group itself, you really said a mouthful !!!

This thread is STILL NOT WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT.......however, having said that again and again, there have been MANY tax reforms floated in Washington. I suggest you read them and why they die to be a bit better informed. It is not what you think.

But again, this is a thread about the Musliim March, not all your posts which keep going off subject.

I have not read nor know anything about him. My point is that it will take more than a march of a million Muslims to convert Christians or even to gain Christian support for their future in this great nation.

Now Beck on the other hand is very methodical in his attempt to divide our country into civil unrest. I fear what he is attempting to do much more than a Muslim flexing his position.

I have mentioned this in at least TWO posts on this thread. The agenda is POLITICAL by their own admission....the Muslim thing...well, read about them...this is a hate group with pollitical ambition before you start making such statments. Read the agenda....read about the guy who runs it..PLEASE before posting.