I agree, every one has the right to their own opinion but not to their own facts.

Don't you wonder why so MANY in the MEDICAL PROFESSION refuse to get the shot(s)? And they ARE doctors!!!

From the CDC 2,216 vaccine related deaths.

"126 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through March 22, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 2,216 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. CDC and FDA physicians review each case report of death as soon as notified and CDC requests medical records to further assess reports. A review of available clinical information including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records revealed no evidence that vaccination contributed to patient deaths. CDC and FDA will continue to investigate reports of adverse events, including deaths, reported to VAERS."

For those who think there are no doctors against these vaccines, I offer this link to a highly credible organization of thousands of doctors who are trying to combat the vaccine and it’s lies.

America's Frontline Doctors – The Trusted Name for Independent Information

Ever wonder what happened to the 35k+ yearly flu deaths during the WuhanChineseCoronaVirus pandemic?

Is 35K supposed to be worldwide?

In the US the number seems to be about 8K per year according to the CDC (2018 was higher). In 2020 there were nearly 9K deaths from the flu. 2021 is starting off much lower, likely due to masking and physical distancing including remote work and remote school.

That link is to a source not trusted by traditional medicine. And that is the kindest way that it can be said;

America’s Frontline Doctors - Media Bias Fact Check

Highly credible, you say.

The founder was arrested at the capital on Jan 6.

They were originated to support the false narrative concerning hydroxychloroquine.

They were part of a number of conspiracy theories and were removed from social media for lying.

'America's Frontline Doctors' Continue to Misinform on COVID | MedPage Today

Simone Gold Arrested for Role in Capitol Insurrection | MedPage Today

It is a mostly P group

Fun with numbers.

330M people in the US
80M vaccinated (120M shots but many people received two shots)
2,216 deaths occurred in vaccinated people
60,000 deaths per week in the US
13 weeks from 12/14/20 to 3/22/21

2,216 deaths/80M vaccinated -> 0.0028%

13 weeks at 60,000 deaths/week = 780,000 deaths in the US with 777,784 NOT associated with receiving a shot

777,784 deaths / 250M not vaccinated -> 0.31%

Just from those calculations, you are 100 times more likely to die if you do NOT get vaccinated.

(Yes I know, correlation vs. causation, but it was fun to play with the numbers)

Source please? How many is "many"? I'm a retired MD who reads medical journals and I have not come across any that cite that as substantiated and also found no references in legitimate news source that had a citation for "many" deaths after the vaccine. I can't find a source for even 1 death......and don't give me "the government is covering it up" excuse.

Let's be very clear, the mRNA vaccines are NOT gene therapy and have absolutely NO impact on your DNA. RNA has a very short lifetime in the body. It is NOT incorporated into your DNA nor is it conserved when cells divide. During its very short lifetime in the body, it is used by cellular mechanisms to produce a protein that, in the case of the COVID-19 vaccine, looks like the spike protein of the corona virus. At that point, it's work is done and nothing else happens other than its destruction by the normal cellular machinery. That little piece of protein is recognized by your immune system as foreign and your body develops antibodies and other immune responses. Then, if you are exposed to live virus, your immune system is already primed to respond so you will not suffer any severe consequences from the infection. There is NO change to your DNA and there is NO change o your normally circulating RNA.

Now this stupid last statement is bull. Show the proof. You can't make off the cuff statements on here and expect anyone one to believe you. Have people died??? Yes..I believe a few have, but not 100% proven....but many, as you state.....no...not true

You are right and thanks for the article. The conspiracy theory people have come out of the woodwork with all their opinions that mean nothing and are probably costing lives of people who now won’t get the vaccine. It’s too bad they can’t be sued or suffer the consequences.

The same can be said for the MSM and the "social media" sites.

There is no pig DNA in Moderna or Pfizer

My guess, and that it is....a guess, but based on numbers provided to us (Columbia University for one) which says we lost 130,000 Americans due to our inadequate response and now begin to add those being lied to about the vaccines makes this an event of historic proportions.

In addition LANCET......"The Lancet is a weekly peer-reviewed general medical journal. It is among the world's oldest and best-known general medical journals.[1][2] It was founded in 1823 by Thomas Wakley, an English surgeon who named it after the surgical instrument called a lancet (scalpel).[3]...has estimated that a full 40% of COVID deaths could have been avoided.

So we continue with a message that will certainly cost more lives.

DEFINE_ME

Suddenly we are allowing non medical "professionals" (not the correct word because it does not address the motives) to rule our lives at what cost ?????

Referring only to the Moderna & Pfizer shots ... no, it's not gene therapy and there was no intimation that it was gene therapy. Your posting that it is NOT gene therapy does nothing to negate what it really is ... and deflects from the risk of mRNA.

For starters, it's not a vaccine (definition below for those who like truth). The mRNA shots turn your own cells into factories for producing the spike protein found on the surface of the COVID-19 virus. Therefore, the mRNA substance that is injected does not meet the definition of a vaccine as it in itself does not "stimulate the production of antibodies ...".

What is does is use your own cells to create a counterfeit copy of the spike protein. This essentially tricks your immune system into creating an immune response without the presence of the virus. So, any immune response is not from what was injected (hence, not meeting the definition of a vaccine) but rather from the proteins that your own cells will create by following the instructions in the mRNA that was injected. Sounds good, right?

However, this hijacking of your own cells to produce something (a task no prior "vaccine" has ever done) is rather permanent. Your cells will continue to produce this spike protein for as long as you walk the planet. My concern is that it will greatly lessen that time on the planet. This process of artificially creating a protein that is then considered foreign to your body and constantly provoking an immune response will continue whether you are exposed to the virus or not. With previous vaccines, a dead or attentuated virus is used to provoke an immune response so that your body is "ready" should it come in contact with the real virus (polio, etc). But, it is not constantly provoked as only a small amount of the target virus is injected. With mRNA, your immune system is constantly (and forever) fighting against a protein production that can't be turned off. Your immune system is constantly provoked to respond because the counterfeit spike protein is constantly being manufactured. This is the very definition of an autoimmune disease. Definition of that is also provided below for your review.

So, go ahead and get the shot (not a vaccine) if you think this is all BS. I read that all the major cruise companies are going to require a vaccine in order to sail. I wonder what they will do when their pool of preferred customers start dying off faster than expected.


Definition of a vaccine: a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.

Definition of autoimmune disease: A disease in which the body's immune system attacks healthy cells.

Note for anyone having trouble understanding. the "healthy cells" are the cells in your body that have been hijacked to produce a protein foreign to your body (the COVID-19 spike protein).

Strange that I don't know of any......

long hauler relief
 

Yes I also read about that. Long haulers were given the vaccine and within a very short time were completely healthy. It's great news for those suffering from the long haul Covid.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) told The Epoch Times in an email that as of March 8, more than 92 million doses of mRNA vaccines for COVID-19 had been administered, with 1,637 deaths occurring following the injections in the United States.

Nonsense.

Do you continue to produce Sars-Cov2 after you've beat the disease? No? Why not? Sars-Cov2 uses messenger RNA to produce the virus in your own cells. Do these continue to make it forever?

No, they don't. Why? The cells that were hijacked produce a signal and t-cells come along and spew a bunch of cytotoxin on them and THEY DIE.

This is exactly what happens to the cells that produced the spike protein from the MRNA Vaccine. They die.

Your system will clear all evidence of it ever being there in a few days at most. Your body isn't in a 100 years war against it until you die.

Fairly eloquent, but very, VERY wrong.

It is a vaccine, even by the definition that both you and I have given. So it's a 2 step process---big deal. Do you have any idea how many pathways in the human body are 20 and 30 step processes.

But more importantly, the mRNA does not " continue to produce this spike protein for as long as you walk the planet. ", it lasts AT MOST 2 days. I'd duck if I were you, because the other medical experts on this site are going to jump all over your post.

And NONE of those deaths were definitively linked to the vaccine

But what is the breakdown of those numbers? So far most of the people that have received the vaccine have been the oldest of our population. How many of them were already circling the drain? Would they have died regardless of whether they received the vaccine?

As has been stated, correlation doesn't mean causation.

Friends,
The worst thing you can do is give a person attention when they are incorrect in their posting. Remember what your mom told you about bullies, "IGNORE THEM", LOL

I disagree. Perhaps the worst thing you can do is give attention to a troll, but when someone posts INCORRECT information, those of us with expertise in a given field should feel obligated to correct it. I would hate for people to believe some of the medical crap that has been posted on TOTV over the years

Do you not believe this claim? Are we being lied to? Personally, I don't believe we are being lied to.

You can not be serious with this link. I did a quick search of Dr. Simone Gold. She is a real peach. NOT!!!! I do not listen to this type of garbage. Sorry.

My apologies for intimating that you have said these vaccines are not vaccines but gene therapy. That was misguided of me to say that. All I know is that you insist that these vaccines are not vaccines and I made the incorrect assumption that you felt they are gene therapy. My bad.

Now, regarding your definition of a vaccine. That is the classic traditional vaccines that you must be referring to. Is that right? The mRNA vaccines are new advanced state of the art technology so the way they work is not in the traditional sense. Personally, I think this new technology and advancement in vaccine development is the best thing to come along since sliced bread. This technology does not frighten me in the slightest. In fact, I am so excited for mankind that this technology exists.

Thank you for being here for us.

Isn't is better to set the record straight and not allow falsehoods to persist? My opinion, of course.

If someone lies or posts totally incorrect information, not opinions, but passes of what they purport to be true and you know it is not can validate it is sourced from known liars, then I think you have an obligation to correct it and do it forcefully.

This is the kind of thing that is taking over our country......people lie and we accept it. We should never accept a lie or purposeful distortion of the truth.....that is enabling.

Stucco keratosis is benign, doesn't turn into anything else, causes no discomfort, doesn't bleed, doesn't really "do" anything at all. It doesn't normally show up on the face, so the theory that sunlight has anything to do with it is mostly debunked. There is no known cause to it at all, and it doesn't normally go away on its own.

It had it on one knee years ago and I kept scraping at it whenever I shaved my legs and it finally stopped coming back.

And of those 1637 deaths, how many were attributed to the vaccine?

(here's the answer for you: none)

Remember MOST of those vaccines in February and March were administered to seniors. Who is most likely to die: people under 65 or people over 65? (here's another answer for you: over 65). Older people die of old age, 100% of the time more than younger people do.

It is very likely that of tens of MILLIONS of vaccines, a thousand or two will be given to people who were on their deathbeds already.

"Intelligence is no guarantee against being dead wrong."

Carl Sagan


I'm currently waiting for my second shot. First one delayed beyond my control. And no flashing displays to follow once that occurs.

I know of some folks who I hold dear who will choose not to be vaccinated for personal reasons.

And they choose to remain anonymous due to the brain numbing nutcases out there.

That’s problem with paper degree’s, one can have theory on subject and another paper holder can dispute it. Now you have to have higher paper degree to trump (no not D. Trump) that degree theory. That’s difference between actually creating something proven than sometime that’s not fully vetted.

Just curious. Your statement that forbes has middle of the road response. Doesn't that mean half half are positive positive and half are negative. That wouldn't be very specific conclusion to anything anything, but a roadblock

Stucco often is small, bright white, large area of patches that can develop all over feet, legs and other areas occasionally and it is ugly.

Thank you to earlier posters who gave some insight into this condition.

My comment was regarding the bias scale......left or right. Forbes is fairly moderate, so no bias. I thought I made that clear in my original post.