Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2255109)

During the summer, I live in a resort/vacation area. We have 500 homes in the development, of which 100 are now used as STR's. Many of them are disruptive to the neighborhood, mostly because of the intensive use during the 10 week summer season.

We have 3 bedroom homes, hosting 12-15 people. Our water system can't supply water, our neighborhood roads can't handle the traffic, our beach isn't big enough and our land won't support the sewerage discharge, to say nothing of the fact, that "short term vacationers" aren't always the most considerate neighbors.

In The Villages, my street has 3-4 STR's I can see when I look out my front door. I have witnessed zero problems, other than perhaps, folks putting out their trash on the wrong day.

Just for the record, I'm philosophically opposed to STR's in a Residential Zone. I think over time, they destabilize neighborhoods. I believe The Villages marketing and deed restrictions preclude the use of single family homes, as motels.

I think the visceral response some folks have on the subject in The Villages, is more related to your statement above:: "I'm not old enough to be one of those "get off my lawn" people".

The Villages is without a doubt, the least "tolerant" community I've ever seen. As we get older, we seem more resistant to change and less accepting of inconvenience and/or the unexpected. Put 130,000+ seniors together and you have the perfect storm. If today is different than yesterday, something is wrong and it's not me. It's the "renters", it's the "snowbirds" or it's the Northerners (or the roundabouts, the hours at the pool or dogs pooping).

Luckily, we don't have many "minorities" (of the LGBQ, color or religious persuasion) in TV. If we did, we'd see intolerance rise to new heights.

Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2255090)

On TOTV, people don't need any "support" for their opinions, they just assume everyone wants to hear from them. How many times in life have we heard the words: "consider the source"?

I particular enjoy the "I'm not going to comment" or "I'm taking the 5th" type posts.

The most prolific poster in this thread, has been on TOTV for 20 days and according to his posts, "just bought a home here". With 160 posts in the 20 days he's been here, he hasn't had much time to find his way around TV, never mind have the time to experience the impact of STR's on the community.

Another prolific poster on the 2 recent threads on STR's has been on TOTV for barely 4 months and despite a "2 week vacation from TOTV", has found the time to make 400+ posts, on every subject under the sun ... 65 posts just on STR's!

Folks, if you haven't lived through a winter in TV, you don't have a clue about life in The Villages. If you spend most of your day at your computer keyboard, you need to get out and about.

Originally Posted by Glowfromminnesota (Post 2255343)

I watched The Village Newcomers one day and someone just bought a new home. He was so excited to move to The Villages only to find out that an investor bought his entire block for rentals. What a sad feeling to be the only actual homeowner on a block. That should not be allowed. Just saying.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2255345)

If true, I couldn't agree more. I do have to question how someone could put in paperwork for an entire block, and get it, given the competitive nature of the market.

Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2255478)

This has to be a major point for elections. Commissioners and representatives need to be pronounced on their standings for STRs. The majority are against them and the message needs to be loud and clear.

Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2255478)

This has to be a major point for elections. Commissioners and representatives need to be pronounced on their standings for STRs. The majority are against them and the message needs to be loud and clear.

Today’s news :
https://www.**************.com/2023/...-the-villages/

A convicted child molester (12 year old in 2019)found his way into The Villages thanks to a rental.

Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2255478)

This has to be a major point for elections. Commissioners and representatives need to be pronounced on their standings for STRs. The majority are against them and the message needs to be loud and clear.

Today’s news :
https://www.**************.com/2023/...-the-villages/

A convicted child molester (12 year old in 2019)found his way into The Villages thanks to a rental.

Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2255478)

...
Today’s news :
https://www.**************.com/2023/...-the-villages/

A convicted child molester (12 year old in 2019)found his way into The Villages thanks to a rental.

Originally Posted by Cybersprings (Post 2255492)

1. What do you base your statement that the majority are against STRs on? Counting people who post on TOTV, from talking to your neighbors? Not sure that would be considered scientific. Is there a poll of all villagers that you are quoting from?

2. To be perfectly honest, I do not want BAD short term renters beside me. But I also don't want full time neighbors that let their dog loose to do their business in the flowers in the circle in front of my house or in my yard, but that is what I have.

3. I also do not want more restrictions on what I can do with my property. I bought my property with one set of restrictions, and they should not change after I purchased it in such a substantive way. If I can live in the villages 6 months a year because I am able to rent it out the other 6 months of the year, then I should be allowed to do it (if those are the conditions under which I purchased my property). BTW, I have never rented my property for a single minute since I purchased 10 years ago.

4. Which do you perfer, a permanent convicted child molester or one that is there for only a week? Or are you saying that the villages does background checks on all purchases (through the villages and by owner) precluding permanent residents with a record?

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2255497)

And you have some reason to believe this was a short-term rental, right; or are you now arguing to stop ALL rentals in the Villages?

Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2255500)

I’m against it and of course along with other transient clientele.

AirBnBs bring crime.

Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2255496)

Is there a Deed Restriction against Sex Offenders buying a home in The Villages? Maybe he had to rent, because he couldn't afford to buy? Those pesky legal bills could have put a dent in his stock portfolio.

I'm not advocating that TV offer itself as a haven for Registered Sex Offenders, but better to have them in TV, than some family neighborhood with a zillion kids running around.

Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2255504)

I think the statistic show that alcohol is a much better indicator of increased crime, than renting vacationers.

Is there any reason not to ban alcohol in TV?

Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2255524)

Hey, notice this happened in the town adjacent to Orlando. Davenport has no STR enforcement. Orlando requires the landlord to live in the building they rent out. I guess STR control is good for the community. Davenport should move into a stronger enforcement rule and adopt Orlando’s stance.

Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2253804)

There are *some* towns (& perhaps states) that have "beat the STR problem". It has to do with the way the community (or Zoning Authority) defines "Residential Use".

When the majority of Zoning Regulations were written, STR's didn't exist, so they typically weren't addressed in zoning schemes. Some zoning authorities (mostly by accident) decided to define "Transient Use" in their zoning scheme. Those communities (or states) have avoided the STR battles, because most don't allow "Transient Use" in their Residential Districts.

In other words, if a zoning scheme doesn't specifically define "transient use", most courts have concluded that STR's fall into the definition of "Residential". (BTW, some of the communities in FL that are "Grandfathered" with respect to their STR Regulations [I believe there are 75 of them], are Grandfathered because their zoning scheme defines "transient use" and prohibit that usage in a residentially zoned district.)