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DaleMN 03-21-2013 10:08 PM

Don't worry.......be happy! :doh:

CFrance 03-21-2013 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Heartnsoul (Post 646219)
Real is the story that just occurred when the father who was a trained safety officer of guns and his son who was holding a gun had their home raided by police and social services . Fortunately the man was smart enough to know his constitutional rights and called his attorney.

And unfortunately, he was stupid enough to post a picture of his son holding a rifle on facebook and bring a bunch of bad publicity down on the poor ten-year-old. Imagine the grief he's getting at school right now. And the publicity that will trail this kid for years to come.

Some people have no common sense.

CFrance 03-21-2013 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ugotme (Post 646338)
THIS Government!

Right you are!

You know, Silent Observer tipping has been around for decades--with rewards for leading to arrest and conviction. I simply don't see how this is any different than what we've been doing all along. You know of someone possessing a gun illegally... they are committing a crime, and you have a right to turn them inn for your own protection and that of others.

Do your law-abiding rights trump his/her criminal's rights? Who's invading whose privacy? There has to be a level of providing safety to the public, and that may at time involve invading some criminal's privacy.

Patty55 03-21-2013 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Serenoa (Post 646384)
Wonder if this good citizen will get his $500?

Sure hope so!

300-gun arsenal seized from Long Island, NY, home - U.S. News

He is not in NYC.

Parker 03-22-2013 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 646256)
If NYC or for that matter almost any large city started a program awarding $500 to people who turned in welfare cheats that city could save a lot of money it is paying out unnecessarily.

Oh, if only....

Cisco Kid 03-22-2013 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Serenoa (Post 646384)
Wonder if this good citizen will get his $500?

Sure hope so!

300-gun arsenal seized from Long Island, NY, home - U.S. News

I wonder if her will get paid per gun

Serenoa 03-22-2013 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 646461)
He is not in NYC.

What is your point? The hotline is for the entire state of New York.

New York offers $500 reward for reporting illegal gun owners | Fox News

buggyone 03-22-2013 10:00 AM

To me, tiplines to the police are good things. If a no-good-nik is taken off the streets, it is always a good thing.

If you knew that your next door neighbor had committed a felony (eg. hit and run that killed a person), wouldn't you call the police and give the tip to get him arrested? I know I would!

JourneyOfLife 03-22-2013 10:43 AM

Well, let's break that down. Possession of a firearm illegally. Which is likely a felony. Which is likely to make them a criminal.

What was the problem again?

Many communities have a hotline for certain crimes with a small reward it it leads to an arrest.

I think it is a great idea.

I don't live in NY.... but you want to know how many people that I know that I could call in an report.... Zip! I make it a point to avoid people and situations like that... at least if I know it.

Most people that illegally possess firearms do not advertise it... except to their victims, the people they threaten, or fellow criminals.... possibly the family members of those people... including the criminal.

DaleMN 03-22-2013 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 646595)
To me, tiplines to the police are good things. If a no-good-nik is taken off the streets, it is always a good thing.

If you knew that your next door neighbor had committed a felony (eg. hit and run that killed a person), wouldn't you call the police and give the tip to get him arrested? I know I would!

But, oh my!...Wouldn't that be an invasion of privacy? See how ludicrous it all is. :doh:

buggyone 03-22-2013 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DaleMN (Post 646641)
But, oh my!...Wouldn't that be an invasion of privacy? See how ludicrous it all is. :doh:

I was just reading a story on Yahoo News that reported two teens in Brunswick, Georgia, had been arrested in the killing of a baby during a robbery of the baby's mother. It appears the arrests were made based on a police tipline that offered a reward.

Do the posters who feel that tiplines are an invasion of privacy (somehow?) feel it was wrong to arrest the suspects who supposedly killed a baby in cold blood during a robbery?

CFrance 03-22-2013 11:02 PM

:agree:
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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 646855)
I was just reading a story on Yahoo News that reported two teens in Brunswick, Georgia, had been arrested in the killing of a baby during a robbery of the baby's mother. It appears the arrests were made based on a police tipline that offered a reward.

Do the posters who feel that tiplines are an invasion of privacy (somehow?) feel it was wrong to arrest the suspects who supposedly killed a baby in cold blood during a robbery?



I'M with you, buggyone.

JourneyOfLife 03-23-2013 05:38 AM

Amazing.... and Sad. What happened to common sense?

Rhetoric (often outright distortion) is an effective tool to manipulate people... Some seem to thrive on it as if it is a source of legitimate information that embodies critical thought.

Some of the consumers of it weave together several lines of disconnected rhetoric into even more imaginative conspiracies.


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