Originally Posted by nn0wheremann (Post 2375520)

No. Baseball is based on honest statistics, and liars & cheaters have no place.

Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2375470)

Do you think Rose intended to hurt him? Was Fosse blocking the plate? Was Fosse trying to win a meaningless exhibition game? Who had more protection? A catcher or a base runner? Rose could have been injured as easily as Fosse and we might never have heard of Rose.

I have seen collisions at the plate in high school games which are meaningless.

And years ago, I was playing in a coed softball league. I was covering home plate (with no protection) and a girl was trying to score. I had the ball when she was about 20 feet from home plate. I expected her to slow up and be tagged. Instead, she kept coming full speed, lowered her shoulder, and ran into me. She knocked me down (but I held onto the ball). That was a meaningless exhibition game.

Originally Posted by Margefrog (Post 2375548)

Dying is not an accomplishment and doesn't change what he did.

Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2375153)

When I heard he charged kids and other fans for an autograph, I lost all respect for him.

Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2375157)

Sure....just as soon as they let Bonds, McGuire, Clemens et al in. Yes all were on the juice but many others were as well and it’s well known MLB was complicit in that steroid era.
Rose was hard headed and probably would’ve got in if he just admitted his wrongdoing....unfortunately, he didn’t until it was too late. It’s just silly to me since the HOF in most sports is about your accomplishments in the game....not your character. If it was about the latter, a good percentage of these HOF would have a lot of empty spaces

Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2375166)

During his playing and managing career, Pete Rose earned a total of $7.1 million in salaries. His highest-earning year was 1986 when the Cincinnati Reds paid Rose $1 million for managing the team.

That is a lot money but it is a pittance to what the top players make now.

I saw an interview with Mickey Mantle shortly before he died. Mantle made $1,128,000 during his entire career playing with the Yankees. At that time Roger Clemens was making more than $5 million a year. Mantle said that Clemens would more by Memorial Day than he did in his entire career.

Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2375183)

He was next door neighbor of close friends. Attended events at his home couple of times before the scandal, and once after he was banned.
Ban was a Hugh topic for years, I met many in that neighborhood that lost respect because of his actions. Rose never impressed me before he was caught, didn’t change much after the ban.

Just my opinion, but a life banned athlete, shouldn’t be allowed in any HOF.

Originally Posted by bowtie (Post 2375560)

If there was no credible evidence that he bet against his team, as a player or manager, then he should have never been banned.

Originally Posted by badkarma318 (Post 2375201)

Setting aside the kid rape, chronic adultery, degenerate gambling, pathological lying & raging narcissistic personality because they're "off the field", he used corked bats for years, so his numbers are tainted & he will never, ever be inducted into the Hall of Fame, thankfully.

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2375578)

Doesn't work that way.
1. Betting was a known lifetime ban.
2. As a manager if I am betting to win tomorrow I don't use my best closer in the one run game today as I am saving him. Thus maybe I cost my team today's game. This is how only betting to win is not a valid excuse.

Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2375258)

I will just say that you would never see Arnold Palmer charge for an autograph. He took his time to make sure his name was legible and encouraged younger pro golfers to do the same. Charging a fan for an autograph is disgraceful.