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fdpaq0580 10-16-2024 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SHIBUMI (Post 2379752)
If we could only control the cow flatulence all of these issues would be resolved. Simply would take a flatulence bag diaper on cows to get this done. It would reduce the bad air expulsion by 75%. This is doable. Not so sure it wouldn't do the same for this post. :BigApplause:

Catalytic converter suppositories for cows.
Or little gas sensors with electronic ignitor that would burn the gas when the cow farts. Might need to pull their tails out of the way of the butt flames

jimjamuser 10-16-2024 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cafesalsa1@yahoo.com (Post 2379528)
We all want to improve the environment. All engineering disciplines are working to improve the environment. Sometimes mistakes are made (examples, forever chemicals and micro plastics). The human condition is to move forward and eliminate the mistakes that we learn from. The solutions we have come up with so far continue to be imperfect
Lots of work opportunities. Be optimistic!!

True, but look at a graph of world population. Rapid increase after 1950.

jimjamuser 10-16-2024 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by opinionist (Post 2379547)
CO2 is essential to the life cycle on Earth. Without CO2, plant life would die, and animals would soon follow. In a closed environment of a space vehicle or submarine, CO2 produced by humans must be removed, and oxygen consumed by humans must be replaced. The Earth's plant life performs this function without human intervention. If you want to fight against higher CO2 levels, plant a tree.

But, can you plant trees faster than the world human population is growing ???????????

jimjamuser 10-16-2024 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Markus (Post 2379599)
EVs consume some type of energy which has an effect on the environment. To think EVs will solve anything is really untrue. The ONLY way to help the environment is to consume less of everything. To become minimalists.

IF we wanted EVs to really help the environment we would have small vehicles and micro cars, not large SUVs and HUMMERS. We would not promote how fast they are 0 to 60. We'd have to relook at all of these mandated items that add weight to all cars. But that is not where we are.

That would work as long as world population dialed back to around 6 billion.

OhioBuckeye 10-16-2024 05:13 PM

Ohiobuckeye
 
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Originally Posted by skarra (Post 2379119)
We can certainly measure the increasing ocean water temperatures which has a direct impact on the severity of the storms we've been experiencing. But something that Musk highlighted during his recent conversation with a certain ex-President was the effect the rising levels of CO2 in our atmosphere will have on the human race.

In addition to the need to be moving to a more sustainable energy economy meaning getting away from oil and gas (demonstrating how short sighted a drill baby drill strategy is), he pointed out that as CO2 levels continue to rise we will be subjected to physiological problems like headaches and nausea and then ultimately it even becomes uncomfortable to breathe. The levels we are talking about are 1,000 PPM which based upon on the trajectory we are on will be by the end of this century (the actual trajectory since 1960 has been a straight line upwards thanks to industry and our addiction to fossil fuels - Trends in CO2 - NOAA Global Monitoring Laboratory and Scripps CO2 Program).

So rather than climate change and the warming of our planet, maybe we should be thinking about the problems associated with elevated CO2 levels including our ability to breathe. Based upon that, burning more fossil fuels will only exacerbate that problem. That's at least one thing that I think Musk is getting right.

Food for thought. Makes me want to buy an EV or at least a hybrid next time I buy a car.

I heard one Dem. say it would take 93 trillion to fix global warming, how well they pay Mother Nature? Some people think 1 trillion is candy sucker money. Well 1 million is 999 (thousand) 9 hundred, &999 dollars + $01 to make 1 million. You would have to do this again to make 1 billion, Then you would need 999 (billion)999 (million) 999 (thousand) dollars plus $.01 to make 1 trillion dollars & you would have to do this 93 times. One trillion is 1,000,000,000,000,000. 93 times, & that means taxes would cost every person in America $23,000. a yr. for every person alive today to pay for it until we all die!

blueash 10-16-2024 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2379652)

You have now posted this link as a reply four times. It has nothing to do with what the post was about. There were comments about what nations produce the most CO2 pollution which an entirely different question than air pollution in a city which does not even take CO2 into account. Air pollution at the level of a city is about dirty stuff in the air.

There were also comments about which nation has the highest requirements for pollution control. Again a totally different issue than what the air is like in a particular city.

fdpaq0580 10-16-2024 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HORNET (Post 2379584)
Remember, THEY scared us with Acid Rain !!!

THEY? THEY? 🤔 Oh, yeah! They. 🙄

fdpaq0580 10-16-2024 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JRcorvette (Post 2379618)
Our Climate has been changing sine the beginning of mankind. We are not causing it and we certainly can Not control it. Now send me your Money 💰

Nice try!

fdpaq0580 10-16-2024 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CybrSage (Post 2379628)
It is always the responsibility of the claimant to support their own claim when asked.

It is never other people's responsibility to do it for the claimant.

Bullspit! Believe it, or don't. If you don't, then you figure it out. Simple as that.

fdpaq0580 10-16-2024 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2379635)
Where have you been for last 40 years? EPA has highest standards, why do you think companies leave USA. Greed, profit, and NO EPA standards to deal with.

Right here, most of the time. And I agree with you! So what does that tell you about corporate big wigs. They care nothing about you or anyone. They care nothing about doing the right or ethical (or "Christian") thing. Nothing stands in the way of money and power. And what do we get? A recycled old slogan, misinformation, lost jobs and a dirtier planet.

fdpaq0580 10-16-2024 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2379784)
The US made improvements in air quality. But since 1950 world population exploded (look at a graph) and cause more automobiles and factories to spew out more CO2 and methane which has caused world temperatures (especially in polar regions) to go up rapidly in the last 5 years. Also, rapid sea level rise, which can only be explained by Global Warming. Look at a graph of world temperatures for the last 30 years to see the rapid rise.

True!

fdpaq0580 10-16-2024 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2379791)
But, can you plant trees faster than the world human population is growing ???????????

And destroying the forests we do have. I mean what little we still have.

fdpaq0580 10-16-2024 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 2379824)
I heard one Dem. say it would take 93 trillion to fix global warming, how well they pay Mother Nature? Some people think 1 trillion is candy sucker money. Well 1 million is 999 (thousand) 9 hundred, &999 dollars + $01 to make 1 million. You would have to do this again to make 1 billion, Then you would need 999 (billion)999 (million) 999 (thousand) dollars plus $.01 to make 1 trillion dollars & you would have to do this 93 times. One trillion is 1,000,000,000,000,000. 93 times, & that means taxes would cost every person in America $23,000. a yr. for every person alive today to pay for it until we all die!

Sounds like a lot! So, you got any suggestions to help? Like solar or wind power to supplement and, ultimately replace fossil fuels. Reducing waste, planting trees, recycling, etc. Or, do we waste time and energy sitting around and bitchin' about the cost, which may not be as bad as it sounds if we all pull together?

Topspinmo 10-17-2024 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 2379833)
You have now posted this link as a reply four times. It has nothing to do with what the post was about. There were comments about what nations produce the most CO2 pollution which an entirely different question than air pollution in a city which does not even take CO2 into account. Air pollution at the level of a city is about dirty stuff in the air.

There were also comments about which nation has the highest requirements for pollution control. Again a totally different issue than what the air is like in a particular city.

I’ll post it 100 times it I want.

fdpaq0580 10-17-2024 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2379998)
I’ll post it 100 times it I want.

Post it enough times to bring your post count to an even 15,000! Just a suggestion.


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