Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2379846)

Right here, most of the time. And I agree with you! So what does that tell you about corporate big wigs. They care nothing about you or anyone. They care nothing about doing the right or ethical (or "Christian") thing. Nothing stands in the way of money and power. And what do we get? A recycled old slogan, misinformation, lost jobs and a dirtier planet.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2380041)

I agree for the most part. Except GOOD Government can "stand in the way of money and power". There are laws against monopolistic behavior, for example. There are laws about clean air in the US used by the EPA. The question is - Do we always have Good Government decisions. in the US it is most of the time, but NOT always. Another example of the importance of voting. We also need a well functioning public education system so that the most number of citizens are able to understand the modern complex problems. Money spent on having a well educated America is money well spent.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2380041)

I agree for the most part. Except GOOD Government can "stand in the way of money and power". There are laws against monopolistic behavior, for example. There are laws about clean air in the US used by the EPA. The question is - Do we always have Good Government decisions. in the US it is most of the time, but NOT always. Another example of the importance of voting. We also need a well functioning public education system so that the most number of citizens are able to understand the modern complex problems. Money spent on having a well educated America is money well spent.

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2379840)

Bullspit! Believe it, or don't. If you don't, then you figure it out. Simple as that.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2380041)

Except GOOD Government can "stand in the way of money and power".

Originally Posted by skarra (Post 2379119)

We can certainly measure the increasing ocean water temperatures which has a direct impact on the severity of the storms we've been experiencing. But something that Musk highlighted during his recent conversation with a certain ex-President was the effect the rising levels of CO2 in our atmosphere will have on the human race.

In addition to the need to be moving to a more sustainable energy economy meaning getting away from oil and gas (demonstrating how short sighted a drill baby drill strategy is), he pointed out that as CO2 levels continue to rise we will be subjected to physiological problems like headaches and nausea and then ultimately it even becomes uncomfortable to breathe. The levels we are talking about are 1,000 PPM which based upon on the trajectory we are on will be by the end of this century (the actual trajectory since 1960 has been a straight line upwards thanks to industry and our addiction to fossil fuels - Trends in CO2 - NOAA Global Monitoring Laboratory and Scripps CO2 Program).

So rather than climate change and the warming of our planet, maybe we should be thinking about the problems associated with elevated CO2 levels including our ability to breathe. Based upon that, burning more fossil fuels will only exacerbate that problem. That's at least one thing that I think Musk is getting right.

Food for thought. Makes me want to buy an EV or at least a hybrid next time I buy a car.

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2380057)

If only the Dept of Energy was effective in educating our children

Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2380079)

There is no such thing. Only NECESSARY government. The less they get involved with, the better.


That ship has sailed. You want critical thinking, but today's public education is more about indoctrination. That's why there is increasing demand for school choice and home schooling. When you have large numbers of kids that can't read or do math, the system has failed.

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2380035)

Post it enough times to bring your post count to an even 15,000! Just a suggestion.

Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2379781)

Yep, but the subject was countries.

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2380143)

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2380074)

I have been on many forums over the years, and proper ETIQUETTE has always been that any poster asserting a position always supported that position with links to the credible sources from which information was obtained. Failure to do so was considered the equivalent of lack of credibility.

It's a free country (at least it used to be), so you can post in any manner you choose. But proper protocol always dictates that everyone should link to their own claims.

Originally Posted by in2it17 (Post 2380102)

It is astonishing someone still thinks CO2 is having any effect on the climate. This has been discredited by real accredited scientists who do not accept money from corporations, leftist groups, government entities, or NGOs.

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2380174)

15001, if I want try to get 50000 posts knock someone off home plate, or maybe the first to 100000. Heck why not try for million. Notice I don’t don’t like anybody telling me what to do on public forum where B s rules.