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dcurrie947 05-08-2020 08:45 AM
I started to write about a conversation we had yesterday with a young lady who works in the lab of one of the large hospitals in Leesburg. If you want to find out first hand the truth about COVID talk to someone who works at a hospital. You will get the relief that this virus is not as bad as being reported and angered when you hear the truth. She said every person is swabbed when they walk in the door, takes 10 minutes for results. 2 have tested positive in the last 3 months, zero deaths. Seek the truth.

rlcooper70 05-08-2020 08:53 AM
The key word is "hospitalizations" and that is not what the fear-inducing headlines are about .... of course hospitalizations were of older people who are not working. This is no news - just a sensationalized headline from the lay press.

Slapnut 05-08-2020 09:04 AM
Don't believe all of the numbers of this so called virus that's reported. Remember it's the media and they only want us to believe what they report.

Slapnut 05-08-2020 09:09 AM
Well said. I agree 100 percent with you. Don't run our lives. Stick to taking care of your states which some are really lacking.

jackandbeth 05-08-2020 10:51 AM
No Nursing homes were at 18% separate from this number

SnowflakeinDeLaVista 05-08-2020 11:02 AM
No nursing homes in that number. There was a separate category for that

SnowflakeinDeLaVista 05-08-2020 11:16 AM
Lack of governors direction? What? We are talking about a guy that has been honest, direct, allowed doctors, scientists and health professionals to bring facts to the public, and in many cases delivered tough news with empathy. I have been impressed with his candor and level of concern.

sipops 05-08-2020 11:20 AM
Died at home.
 
What NY is not saying any one that died at home will be considered to have died from the corona virus. No testing, no autopsy no proof. It's all about the money. Once cities and states were getting funding for each corona virus case and money for using a ventilators, I stopped believing the numbers. The mayor of NY added 3700 deaths to the list from the virus.

GoodLife 05-08-2020 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by SnowflakeinDeLaVista (Post 1761158)
Lack of governors direction? What? We are talking about a guy that has been honest, direct, allowed doctors, scientists and health professionals to bring facts to the public, and in many cases delivered tough news with empathy. I have been impressed with his candor and level of concern.
Yeah, he's doing a heck of a job up there.

Population:

Florida: 21,500,000
New York: 19,500,000

Coronavirus cases:

FL: 38,828
NY: 337,421

Coronavirus deaths:

FL: 1,600
NY: 26,365

billethkid 05-08-2020 11:37 AM
Staying home.....a very relative term.
To those of us in TV staying home is in our house.
Ditto for locations with single family dwellings.

Staying home in NYC very well means in a multi floor, multi family apartment/condo type building.

Totally different exposure profiles.

Shawn70 05-08-2020 11:54 AM
We were supposed to stay home until the curve flattened. That happened in most places weeks ago

jimjamuser 05-08-2020 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1760781)
ALBANY — The majority of recently hospitalized coronavirus patients in New York are people who have followed the precaution of staying home, Gov. Cuomo said Wednesday.

The governor said it was “shocking" that 66% of new coronavirus hospitalizations are people who are either retired or unemployed and not commuting to work on a regular basis.

Cuomo: 66 percent of new coronavirus NY cases at home - New York Daily News
Retired means that they are old (like we in the Villages). Unemployed means that they have above-average stress or underlying conditions. 50% of total deaths are in the 75 plus age group. Those are some factors and there could be others.

jimjamuser 05-08-2020 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Klatu (Post 1760975)
Density is likely a major factor, I think. New Yorkers and residents of any city living in close quarters with others are very vulnerable. That is why Miami Dade has more serious problems that other places in Florida where we are more spread out. Outsiders and fear mongers suggested The Villages would be a hot spot but we generally live well apart from our neighbors, only coming together for activities or socializing, not in the day-to-day business of living. Live close: breath others' air. Live farther away: breath fresh air. Lesson: density can be deadly.
I agree density is a big factor. There are many, many.

jimjamuser 05-08-2020 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MarshaVillages (Post 1760993)
Covid 19 is spread by fecal virus-laden aerosol plumes! Virus particles linger in restrooms airborne for hours, waiting to infect the next person's respiratory system.

Think about the spread in nursing homes, prisons, ships, and multifamily households. Your viewers need to know it’s more than just washing hands.

Governor Cuomo talked about 66% Covid-19 admissions are from people who stayed home. New Yorkers live in close quarters and in apartment buildings that share plumbing supply lines. Covid-19 fecal fume transmission makes sense.

Bloomberg article explains transmission.


"novel coronavirus is shed in the feces of infected people"

"...microbes...are inhaled"

"live virus particles in stool specimens indicates a fecal-oral route for coronavirus, which may be why it’s caused outbreaks on cruise ships...Diamond Princess..."

Here is a presentation that identifies the oral-fecal method of transmission.
COVID-19 | Coronavirus: Epidemiology, Pathophysiology, Diagnostics - YouTube


The inhaled virus-laden fecal plume transmission must be told! You can handle it.

Hey, stay out of public restrooms!
There is a joke in the "fecal virus-laden aerosol plumes" that Butthead and Beaves could exploit. Or a possible weapon for a spy agency? But, seriously it is a possible factor and something further to watch out for and worry about. Good info.

jimjamuser 05-08-2020 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SnowflakeinDeLaVista (Post 1761158)
Lack of governors direction? What? We are talking about a guy that has been honest, direct, allowed doctors, scientists and health professionals to bring facts to the public, and in many cases delivered tough news with empathy. I have been impressed with his candor and level of concern.
I agree.


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