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Two Bills 10-04-2023 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 2262480)
What about the 15-minute-cities?? They're in England already and I've heard, a couple other places.

Not here as such yet, just the idea.
The basic idea is that development should include a shopping area within a 15 minute walking, biking area of homes, to save having to use car.
Conspiracy nuts are already on the case, claiming "They" are trying to keep the population locked up in small areas.
Total nonsense, but it will run, as everything these days is a conspiracy.
Probably turn out Bill Gates is behind it all.:icon_wink:

Justputt 10-04-2023 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2262348)
Georgia nuclear rebirth arrives 7 years late, $17B over cost | AP News
Maybe we should have started to build a plant yesterday
Georgia nuclear rebirth arrives 7 years late, $17B over cost

The main driver of costs are delays/cost of money and the repetitive legal battles from interveners. Nuclear power plants, such as Arkansas Nuclear One were built in less than 6 years each for less than $1B and have been reliable power producers. Palisades was built in 3 years (1967-70) for around $0.5B and also still produces power. Nuclear energy is by far the cleanest reliable 24/7 power and can be the least expensive if the regulatory/legal structure removes the frivolous interveners.

Eclas 10-04-2023 07:12 AM

What a crock of crap that is

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2262225)
A French expert on climate change proposes a limit of 4 flights per person in a lifetime.

If it will save the planet, should we do it??

P.S. I assume they are roundtrip so it may be 8 flights.

Great Travel Reset: Poll: 41% of French population favors restricting EVERYONE to ONLY 4 airplane flights in their ENTIRE LIFE to ‘fight against global warming’ • Watts Up With That?


Bwanajim 10-04-2023 07:12 AM

This is a joke, right? You can’t be serious!🙄🙄🙄🤦*♂️

Bobendres 10-04-2023 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2262225)
A French expert on climate change proposes a limit of 4 flights per person in a lifetime.

If it will save the planet, should we do it??

P.S. I assume they are roundtrip so it may be 8 flights.

Great Travel Reset: Poll: 41% of French population favors restricting EVERYONE to ONLY 4 airplane flights in their ENTIRE LIFE to ‘fight against global warming’ • Watts Up With That?

Really really stupid

Nevinator 10-04-2023 07:19 AM

I would love to see the author’s frequent flyer account to see how many flights he/she has taken since completing all of this “research.”

Justputt 10-04-2023 07:27 AM

Climate change is mostly hoax when you look back over millions of years and not just an advantageous snapshot supporting one's claim. Here are two graphs, the first from Greenland GISP2 Ice Core data https://volcanocafe.files.wordpress....2/image002.jpg and the second from climate.gov What's the hottest Earth's ever been? | NOAA Climate.gov . Stop the hysterics and make smart changes, which DO INCLUDE making this a cleaner world with cleaner energy, much less pollution, etc., but the hysterical race off a cliff that destroys our economy and way of life is nonsense.

ThirdOfFive 10-04-2023 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2262474)
They are already starting. Now it is tires they are going after, & as far as I know electric cars need tires. The enironmentalists want to eliminate personal car ownership/use.
Tire Dust Makes Up the Majority of Ocean Microplastics: Study

Aye. But car tires, limiting flights, etc., are only symptoms.

We have met the enemy, and they are us.

ehonour 10-04-2023 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mtdjed (Post 2262295)
How many people have a fear of flying?
Between 33% and 40% of all people experience some form of anxiety when it comes to flying.

Shoot, I'm a pilot and I'm one of those.

But my anxiety about flying comes from having to face the Totalitarian Strip-search Agency (TSA). :loco:

Windguy 10-04-2023 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cjrjck (Post 2262305)
Is the "French expert" a scientist? If so, we have no choice but to follow what he says. That is the way it works with the modern religion of "Scientist-ology". If a scientist says something is true, it must be true, and you are a heretic for believing otherwise.

It’s obvious that most people have absolutely no idea how science works.

1) Someone comes up with an idea (called a hypothesis—not a theory).
2) The scientist runs some tests to see if the hypothesis is valid.
3) They write a paper documenting their idea and the results of the tests.
4) Other scientists try to reproduce the results.
5) If successful, the hypothesis is promoted to a theory.
6) Scientists continue to come up with more tests to help validate the theory. They are still testing Einstein’s Theory of General Relativity after more than a century. As far I know, the theory has never failed.

Unfortunately, the media seems to report this hypothesis at step 1–long before the idea is vetted by other scientists. That is not science. Remember cold fusion? The media reported this idea before step 4 and before independent scientists failed to reproduce the original results, so the idea of cold fusion was sent to the place where invalid hypotheses go to die.

Besides, my guess is that the so-called French “expert” is actually a policy wonk and not a scientist.

Carlsondm 10-04-2023 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2262380)
Very true but some contractors have experience dealing with the govt and know how to get things done in a timely manner.

Nuclear power plants have become much safer these days and we are missing the boat in not building more immediately.

Maybe so if we have a safe place to attenuate and dump their waste. Perhaps Florida should step up to the plate and take the spent fuel. After all we could use a few more inches as the oceans rise and when sandbags need to be filled.
As water temperatures rise, dissolved oxygen decreases. It should be real easy to ‘catch’ your fishing quota soon. So don’t worry about the toxicity of nuclear waste to fish.

Stu from NYC 10-04-2023 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 2262512)
It’s obvious that most people have absolutely no idea how science works.

1) Someone comes up with an idea (called a hypothesis—not a theory).
2) The scientist runs some tests to see if the hypothesis is valid.
3) They write a paper documenting their idea and the results of the tests.
4) Other scientists try to reproduce the results.
5) If successful, the hypothesis is promoted to a theory.
6) Scientists continue to come up with more tests to help validate the theory. They are still testing Einstein’s Theory of General Relativity after more than a century. As far I know, the theory has never failed.

Unfortunately, the media seems to report this hypothesis at step 1–long before the idea is vetted by other scientists. That is not science. Remember cold fusion? The media reported this idea before step 4 and before independent scientists failed to reproduce the original results, so the idea of cold fusion was sent to the place where invalid hypotheses go to die.

Besides, my guess is that the so-called French “expert” is actually a policy wonk and not a scientist.

Could be but when his idea gets published people do tend to take it more seriously

oldtimes 10-04-2023 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 2262512)
It’s obvious that most people have absolutely no idea how science works.

1) Someone comes up with an idea (called a hypothesis—not a theory).
2) The scientist runs some tests to see if the hypothesis is valid.
3) They write a paper documenting their idea and the results of the tests.
4) Other scientists try to reproduce the results.
5) If successful, the hypothesis is promoted to a theory.
6) Scientists continue to come up with more tests to help validate the theory. They are still testing Einstein’s Theory of General Relativity after more than a century. As far I know, the theory has never failed.

Unfortunately, the media seems to report this hypothesis at step 1–long before the idea is vetted by other scientists. That is not science. Remember cold fusion? The media reported this idea before step 4 and before independent scientists failed to reproduce the original results, so the idea of cold fusion was sent to the place where invalid hypotheses go to die.

Besides, my guess is that the so-called French “expert” is actually a policy wonk and not a scientist.

But it greatly depends on who is funding the studies

maistocars 10-04-2023 08:04 AM

oh my....and I'm sure the biggest polluters, India and China, will go right along. Is it April 1st already?

Dantes 10-04-2023 08:13 AM

Yes starting with Al Gore


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