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Normal 03-19-2024 02:57 PM

Lady
 
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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2313199)
Was the lady a client of their's? I personally go with Sig and Sauer over S&W. More reliable but that's just an opinion.

Nah, a ladies gun is a Kimber 9mm pink. Of course if the Villager who was kidnapped and abducted had carried one, the whole thing may of played out differently.

Pugchief 03-19-2024 04:21 PM

Speaking of which:
NYC homeowner is arrested for changing the locks of her home to kick out squatters who broke in.

In New York, people illegally living in your property automatically become the legal
tenants after 30 days.


SOURCE LINK

mntlblok 03-19-2024 04:30 PM

Term defining
 
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Originally Posted by Girlcopper (Post 2313025)
You’re talking apple and oranges. Squatters vs home invasion. Read the posts closer

How well defined (legally) is the term "squatter"?

Velvet 03-19-2024 04:52 PM

I can’t quite see the difference between a squatter and a burglar, so the burglar decided to stay… how can that be defined as a tenant? Illegal entry is burglary or home invasion. You come home from the store, or a vacation and as you enter there is a stranger in your house. Who you shoot. How is that not self defense?

JMintzer 03-19-2024 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2313228)
Speaking of which:
NYC homeowner is arrested for changing the locks of her home to kick out squatters who broke in.

In New York, people illegally living in your property automatically become the legal
tenants after 30 days.


SOURCE LINK

Reason #243 why not to live in NYC...

Dusty_Star 03-19-2024 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2313246)
Reason #243 why not to live in NYC...

& I didn't even need reasons 1 - 242

Velvet 03-19-2024 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2313246)
Reason #243 why not to live in NYC...

NYC has been off limits for me since my one and only visit in 1972. I still remember it. Although the MET has my absolute favorite piece of art, better than the Louvre or Hermitage. I don’t think anything could actually intice me to go there.

shaw8700@outlook.com 03-19-2024 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2313033)
Or family who stops in and never leaves:faint:

And never pays!

marsil 03-20-2024 04:59 AM

In Illinois, an awful state to begin with, Chicago I actually mean - a squatter lady moved into an apartment and when the management co notified her to get out, the police contacted them and they were told to stop harassing her. In Fl ( a much. better state) that would not be allowed and the squatter would be removed. (per the govenors new signed bill). What does that say folks????

Battlebasset 03-20-2024 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by marsil (Post 2313313)
In Illinois, an awful state to begin with, Chicago I actually mean - a squatter lady moved into an apartment and when the management co notified her to get out, the police contacted them and they were told to stop harassing her. In Fl ( a much. better state) that would not be allowed and the squatter would be removed. (per the govenors new signed bill). What does that say folks????

It says we have a great governor and state government that (usually) makes sense.

Girlcopper 03-20-2024 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeN (Post 2312964)
Is this an issue in The Villages or just a talking point?

It’s just something he felt the need to throw out there to cause a ruckus. The usual baiter looking to start a debate because they were having a boring day or maybe a boring life.

Bill14564 03-20-2024 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Battlebasset (Post 2313350)
It says we have a great governor and state government that (usually) makes sense.

And before the DeSantis haters come out, let me preemptively say "There are 49 other states. Pick one and move there. Live under the policies you espouse and vote for".

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retiredguy123 03-20-2024 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Girlcopper (Post 2313389)
It’s just something he felt the need to throw out there to cause a ruckus. The usual baiter looking to start a debate because they were having a boring day or maybe a boring life.

I posted it because the squatter issue is a national news story. And, Florida is in the process of creating a new law to deal with squatters. A squatter could show up anywhere and cause a huge problem for a homeowner. The Villages has a lot of snowbirds who could be a prime target for squatters.

mntlblok 03-20-2024 08:25 AM

Three forward slashes
 
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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2313391)
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"The /// <reference path="..." /> directive is the most common of this group. It serves as a declaration of dependency between files. Triple-slash references instruct the compiler to include additional files in the compilation process. They also serve as a method to order the output when using out or outFile ."

Something tells me that my googling has been less than successful here.

retiredguy123 03-20-2024 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mntlblok (Post 2313410)
"The /// <reference path="..." /> directive is the most common of this group. It serves as a declaration of dependency between files. Triple-slash references instruct the compiler to include additional files in the compilation process. They also serve as a method to order the output when using out or outFile ."

Something tells me that my googling has been less than successful here.

On TOTV, "///" usually means that the poster wants to delete a post. However, the TOTV website does not allow a post to be deleted, even though there is an "edit/delete" option at the bottom of the post. Also, the post must have at least 3 characters, so many posters use /// to indicate a deleted post.

Bill14564 03-20-2024 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2313421)
On TOTV, "///" usually means that the poster wants to delete a post. However, the TOTV website does not allow a post to be deleted, even though there is an "edit/delete" option at the bottom of the post. Also, the post must have at least 3 characters, so many posters use /// to indicate a deleted post.

Thank you

OhioBuckeye 03-20-2024 08:46 AM

Your right but that’s the question, would you rent to a squatter. My comment is pretty clear, would you lease to a squatter. It’s simple would you yes or no ?

OhioBuckeye 03-20-2024 08:49 AM

I agree with you but my question is about as clear as all or some of the other comments, read them!

retiredguy123 03-20-2024 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 2313433)
Your right but that’s the question, would you rent to a squatter. My comment is pretty clear, would you lease to a squatter. It’s simple would you yes or no ?

It is not a yes or no question. Some landlords rent to a tenant, who they think is not a squatter, until they stop paying rent, but refuse to move out. That tenant then becomes a squatter. Other homeowners do not rent to anyone, but a squatter moves into their house while they are out-of-town. Sometimes the squatter has a fake lease that they created, a fraudulent lease that a scammer created, or no lease at all.

mntlblok 03-20-2024 09:02 AM

test
 
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2313421)
On TOTV, "///" usually means that the poster wants to delete a post. However, the TOTV website does not allow a post to be deleted, even though there is an "edit/delete" option at the bottom of the post. Also, the post must have at least 3 characters, so many posters use /// to indicate a deleted post.

test to see if i can delete this test post

Ahhh! *Now* I get it! It allowed me to "edit it down to nothing" - a version of deletion - but that leaves fewer than three characters, so I'm stuck - unless I add back at least three characters of some sort. Son of a gun.

Cybersprings 03-20-2024 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Girlcopper (Post 2313389)
It’s just something he felt the need to throw out there to cause a ruckus. The usual baiter looking to start a debate because they were having a boring day or maybe a boring life.

Hmmmm. Just a few of the most recent posts:

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Originally Posted by Girlcopper (Post 2313389)
Thats not a lifestyle visit. How about you just rent your own cart for the day.

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Originally Posted by Girlcopper (Post 2313389)
You’re talking apple and oranges. Squatters vs home invasion. Read the posts closer

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Originally Posted by Girlcopper (Post 2313389)
Well. Then don’t buy a house there. Easy. The complaint is ridiculous

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Originally Posted by Girlcopper (Post 2313389)
Write it down? Obviously you don’t eat out often and are still living in the 20th century.

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Originally Posted by Girlcopper (Post 2313389)
You’re wasting your time watching what other people do? Get a life!

Looks like it's someone else who needs to consider what they throw out there. In life, some people offer topics for discussion, and others offer rude and contemptuous responses in return. I think I know which of those types I will strive to be.

frayedends 03-20-2024 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2313202)
Agree.

It's Big Hat, no cattle.

Guns are not going to help with squatters.

Really? Seems to me it would be very persuasive in getting them to leave. I can say that if I went to my home and there was a squatter I would evict them. The police are too busy to be bothered with such a thing.

Velvet 03-20-2024 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2313398)
I posted it because the squatter issue is a national news story. And, Florida is in the process of creating a new law to deal with squatters. A squatter could show up anywhere and cause a huge problem for a homeowner. The Villages has a lot of snowbirds who could be a prime target for squatters.

This is true - but if you have a good home management company to look after your home, like Empty Nest, they would deal with it immediately. I’m notified even if a person parks on my driveway for a bit. And they would have to break in to enter which would make them burglars.

jimjamuser 03-20-2024 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pugchief (Post 2313187)
Most references to squatters mean people who illegally move into and take possession of your home while you are out of town. This should not be tolerated in any way by government/police whose responsibility it is to enforce property rights. It should not need to involve drawn out legal fights.

You can feel sorry for those who did not get a break in life, but they still don't have the right to steal anyone's house.

I always go back to these facts. The Villages are a bubble of rich people that are OLD and surrounded by poor people that WISH they were rich. All the roads are public roads, so you can't keep anyone out. Gate shacks are for looks and to give residents a FALSE sense of security. Every day of the week in every section of this rich bubble there are relatively POOR lawn service people working. If they see a unoccupied home while they are working they JUST MIGHT tell their unemployed cousin with 3 kids about the location of this vacant (maybe just for the summer) home. JUST MIGHT!!!!!!!!
........So, I believe that this thread has reality and merit. And I have seen more unemployable children walking around in the last 3 years than 10 years prior to that.

jimjamuser 03-20-2024 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2313237)
I can’t quite see the difference between a squatter and a burglar, so the burglar decided to stay… how can that be defined as a tenant? Illegal entry is burglary or home invasion. You come home from the store, or a vacation and as you enter there is a stranger in your house. Who you shoot. How is that not self defense?

It is probably NOT self defense unless they pull a knife or gun on you first. Your best legal action would be to inform the sheriff about the situation and let the PROFESSIONALS take it from there. Plus many people talk about shooting a person, that probably has NEVER shot a rabbit. The average person's hand will start shaking if they ever have to point a gun at a HUMAN BEING. Know your limitations - Socrates said, "know thyself"!!!!!!

jimjamuser 03-20-2024 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Girlcopper (Post 2313389)
It’s just something he felt the need to throw out there to cause a ruckus. The usual baiter looking to start a debate because they were having a boring day or maybe a boring life.

I believe that this is a legitimate problem here in TV Land and all over the US. And - face it - the HAVE-NOTS are streaming over the southern border as we speak.......by the thousands.

retiredguy123 03-20-2024 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2313557)
It is probably NOT self defense unless they pull a knife or gun on you first. Your best legal action would be to inform the sheriff about the situation and let the PROFESSIONALS take it from there. Plus many people talk about shooting a person, that probably has NEVER shot a rabbit. The average person's hand will start shaking if they ever have to point a gun at a HUMAN BEING. Know your limitations - Socrates said, "know thyself"!!!!!!

The problem is that, in many squatter situations, the sheriff tells the homeowner that it is not a crime to be a squatter. It is a civil matter and the homeowner needs to pursue the issue in a civil court. So, the sheriff provides no help at all.

Velvet 03-20-2024 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2313557)
It is probably NOT self defense unless they pull a knife or gun on you first. Your best legal action would be to inform the sheriff about the situation and let the PROFESSIONALS take it from there. Plus many people talk about shooting a person, that probably has NEVER shot a rabbit. The average person's hand will start shaking if they ever have to point a gun at a HUMAN BEING. Know your limitations - Socrates said, "know thyself"!!!!!!

A stranger is in my home when I walk in, do you think they don’t want to harm me? If they wanted my permission they would have asked me first. They don’t need a weapon to harm me. And I think my actions tend to be a reflex, automatic under danger. Like blinking, it just occurs naturally in the presence of danger. Some people freeze some people react. Generally, I don’t carry but that does not mean that the nearest thing to me can’t be used.

retiredguy123 03-20-2024 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2313562)
A stranger is in my home when I walk in, do you think they don’t want to harm me? If they wanted my permission they would have asked me first. They don’t need a weapon to harm me. And I think my actions tend to be a reflex, automatic under danger. Like blinking, it just occurs naturally in the presence of danger. Some people freeze some people react. Generally, I don’t carry but that does not mean that the nearest thing to me can’t be used.

If you are dealing with a competent squatter, you wouldn't be able to walk in because they would have changed the locks.

But, if you execute a legal lease to a squatter hunter, they can hire a locksmith to change the locks, and move in with all the same rights as the squatter. They can bring a large dog (or two) who barks a lot and is not house broken, play loud music 24/7, make a huge mess in the kitchen and bathrooms, and walk around the house with loaded AK-47. I would also think they could remove all the interior doors and put them in storage. This is all legal and will get rid of the squatters much faster than a lawyer and a civil court.

Normal 03-20-2024 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2313557)
It is probably NOT self defense unless they pull a knife or gun on you first. Your best legal action would be to inform the sheriff about the situation and let the PROFESSIONALS take it from there. Plus many people talk about shooting a person, that probably has NEVER shot a rabbit. The average person's hand will start shaking if they ever have to point a gun at a HUMAN BEING. Know your limitations - Socrates said, "know thyself"!!!!!!

I’m good, I’m a war veteran with a much higher threat to my life’s existence at the time.

dewilson58 03-20-2024 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2313493)
Really? Seems to me it would be very persuasive in getting them to leave. I can say that if I went to my home and there was a squatter I would evict them. The police are too busy to be bothered with such a thing.

Yes really.

You may want to read: Just a moment....

OrangeBlossomBaby 03-20-2024 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2313237)
I can’t quite see the difference between a squatter and a burglar, so the burglar decided to stay… how can that be defined as a tenant? Illegal entry is burglary or home invasion. You come home from the store, or a vacation and as you enter there is a stranger in your house. Who you shoot. How is that not self defense?

Some squatters were there legally. At first. Happened to someone I know here. An owner came down with a "friend" who was renting the guest bedroom. Except the friend never paid the rent, and took her golf cart and car out whenever she wanted, and decided she wasn't going to vacate when they had originally agreed. She started becoming aggressive, kicking the owner's dogs, and such. She had a key, because the owner GAVE her a key. But then the tenant changed their legal address to the owner's address, which gave credibility that she was authorized to live there and take permanent possession of the house.

Thankfully that person decided to victimize a nicer house somewhere else in the community, and moved out on their own.

But now - that person is absolutely someone else's problem. And is still pulling this stunt in The Villages. Just in a designer home instead of a double-wide.

Squatters can be invited and welcome tenants. Until they stop paying the rent, and refuse to move out. Then, they are in possession of the keys, they have the right to be there, until you go through the eviction process. Which can take months.

Hiring a "professional squatter hunter" sounds like a pretty good idea to me.

Shipping up to Boston 03-20-2024 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2313569)
If you are dealing with a competent squatter, you wouldn't be able to walk in because they would have changed the locks.

But, if you execute a legal lease to a squatter hunter, they can hire a locksmith to change the locks, and move in with all the same rights as the squatter. They can bring a large dog (or two) who barks a lot and is not house broken, play loud music 24/7, make a huge mess in the kitchen and bathrooms, and walk around the house with loaded AK-47. I would also think they could remove all the interior doors and put them in storage. This is all legal and will get rid of the squatters much faster than a lawyer and a civil court.

Question : After all that Charles Bronson tactic, should he, the hunter discharge the AK-47 or have Major the K9 take a bite outta crime on my behalf.....what part and how much of the ACLU suit against me and my estate will I be responsible for?

Asking for a law student

frayedends 03-20-2024 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2313591)
Yes really.

You may want to read: Just a moment....

I did not say I would shoot them. Of course if I found myself being threatened upon entering my own home I can't say I wouldn't defend myself. But usually just the mere presence of an armed individual diffuses the situation very quickly.

I was once approached at a gas station by 4 very unsavory looking fellas in Dorchester MA (not the nicest area). Before they were within 15 feet I made it known I was armed with a simple opening of my jacket. The turned around and left.

Edit to add: I would not be in a situation where a squatter was a legit renter first or anything like that. A squatter in my home would have had to broken in and taken up residence while I was up north. So maybe not the same situation as some renter that stopped paying.

It's Hot There 03-20-2024 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2313623)

Edit to add: I would not be in a situation where a squatter was a legit renter first or anything like that. A squatter in my home would have had to broken in and taken up residence while I was up north. So maybe not the same situation as some renter that stopped paying.

That's an intruder (trespasser), not a squatter.

frayedends 03-20-2024 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by It's Hot There (Post 2313629)
That's an intruder (trespasser), not a squatter.


Don't squatters break in to vacant homes, have a fake lease written up and try to stay there? I mean, yeah they are intruders but also squatters.

Velvet 03-20-2024 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2313569)
If you are dealing with a competent squatter, you wouldn't be able to walk in because they would have changed the locks.

But, if you execute a legal lease to a squatter hunter, they can hire a locksmith to change the locks, and move in with all the same rights as the squatter. They can bring a large dog (or two) who barks a lot and is not house broken, play loud music 24/7, make a huge mess in the kitchen and bathrooms, and walk around the house with loaded AK-47. I would also think they could remove all the interior doors and put them in storage. This is all legal and will get rid of the squatters much faster than a lawyer and a civil court.

Well when I lock myself out - doesn’t happen these days as I put extra key in master lock box like real estate people or give it to neighbor. I enter by breaking the window. But I prefer your idea of squatter chaser.
What about smoke bomb, fogging, tear gas etc? I’d figure out which one was legal (for bugs - big and small).

Shipping up to Boston 03-20-2024 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2313623)
I did not say I would shoot them. Of course if I found myself being threatened upon entering my own home I can't say I wouldn't defend myself. But usually just the mere presence of an armed individual diffuses the situation very quickly.

I was once approached at a gas station by 4 very unsavory looking fellas in Dorchester MA (not the nicest area). Before they were within 15 feet I made it known I was armed with a simple opening of my jacket. The turned around and left.

Edit to add: I would not be in a situation where a squatter was a legit renter first or anything like that. A squatter in my home would have had to broken in and taken up residence while I was up north. So maybe not the same situation as some renter that stopped paying.

Dirty DOT. Love it

retiredguy123 03-21-2024 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2313601)
Question : After all that Charles Bronson tactic, should he, the hunter discharge the AK-47 or have Major the K9 take a bite outta crime on my behalf.....what part and how much of the ACLU suit against me and my estate will I be responsible for?

Asking for a law student

I didn't suggest doing anything illegal. But, apparently, your plan would be to pay a lawyer thousands of dollars and wait months for a civil court judge to issue an eviction notice while the squatter destroys your house. No thanks.

Normal 03-21-2024 05:58 AM

Squatters
 
Can the homeless be evicted from recreation center areas? You know the ones that use the dog park hoses for showers etc. Are they squatters?


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