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Sgt Ed 02-13-2025 07:20 AM
They are going to get their money no matter who imports it. Like other taxes the governments gets their graft first.

opinionist 02-13-2025 07:33 AM
If tariffs can replace the income tax, then I say bring it on.
If tariffs can help bring jobs back from overseas, I say bring it on.

RoseyRed 02-13-2025 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by PeteF (Post 2408951)
About a week ago, I had to replace (under warranty) the charger for my Lithium Ion Golf Cart Battery.

The Chinese company was great . They shipped me a new charger from China within two days, and it arrived 4 days after they shipped it ... Air express via UPS.

Surprise, when UPS delivered the charger there was a $15 Tariff due (20% of the $75 charger valuation) and UPS tacked on another $15 service charge.

Obviously I was a bit surprised by this, especially the $15 service charge from UPS on a $15 Tariff.

As the economist and financial people have been saying ... US people and companies pay the tariff when the goods land ... its not a paid by Chinese companies. Additional, nobody has talked about the service charges that the shipping companies are imposing.

Just a little heads up if you are expecting a shipment directly from China.

Please note: I am not saying that Tariffs are good or bad policy - that needs to be decided by people with a lot more Tariff knowledge and experience than I have. This post is meant as just a heads up on what you might experience should you order directly from China.
I am not an expert on tariffs by no means, but am curious who benefits from the increased tariff income? Who has access to this income and what can it be used for?

Kelevision 02-13-2025 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2408953)
What the - China was supposed to pay that tariff.

Thus the $75 charger now costs $105. Looks like instant 40% inflation to me.

I assume the UPS charge was to fill out the paperwork for the tariff filing.
Lol… you’re joking right??? Please tell me you’re joking.

Kelevision 02-13-2025 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by opinionist (Post 2409142)
If tariffs can replace the income tax, then I say bring it on.
If tariffs can help bring jobs back from overseas, I say bring it on.
It won’t and it won’t. You’re worried about jobs from overseas when they literally bring in HB-1 visa immigrants to do the jobs here because “ we need smart people here to do the jobs” also, how many millions of Americans are being fired currently. What jobs will they be taking now. YOU’RE FIRED!!

retiredguy123 02-13-2025 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by maggie1 (Post 2409119)
We make things in America? Give me a hint of what they are and I'll get on the bandwagon, too.
Go to Amazon.com and search:

"made in usa products only"

airstreamingypsy 02-13-2025 08:07 AM
Tighten your belts, it's going to be a bumpy ride.

CoachKandSportsguy 02-13-2025 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Cuervo (Post 2409100)
When it comes to tariffs the majority of the economist stand firm that the burden will fall on the American people and will start an economic battle that all parties will suffer. Look for those who have doubts this is even the beliefs of the Wall Street Journal, who main interest is the stability of the U.S financial markets.
The question: is your economic policy goal the cheapest cost of production wins? regardless of the location or the second / third order effects?

OR

is the economic policy locally mfg goods with better delivery times and less potential supply chain disruptions, with a stronger domestic money flows for financing?

If you pick the second, the only pain is the transition from the first to the second, and that can be temporary.

kareneluck 02-13-2025 08:20 AM
The manufacturing is not yet set up in the US again. The labor in the US is more costly than offshore. That’s why many items were imported. Bring Manufacturing back to the US and the prices go up again. We are going back years. The consumer will pay more for everything world wide. These deals were originally made for everyone to pay less. Look out consumer. It will be a wild ride

coconutmama 02-13-2025 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by opinionist (Post 2409142)
If tariffs can replace the income tax, then I say bring it on.
If tariffs can help bring jobs back from overseas, I say bring it on.
It would take years to build back manufacturing here to any meaningful rate on any real & necessary items.

To compete, many jobs would have to be automated.

Remember also that our taxes pay for our military. I don’t mind paying my fair share

Janie123 02-13-2025 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by PeteF (Post 2408951)
About a week ago, I had to replace (under warranty) the charger for my Lithium Ion Golf Cart Battery.

The Chinese company was great . They shipped me a new charger from China within two days, and it arrived 4 days after they shipped it ... Air express via UPS.

Surprise, when UPS delivered the charger there was a $15 Tariff due (20% of the $75 charger valuation) and UPS tacked on another $15 service charge. Most likely, that charger would be cheaper on a site like Amazon as they probably do one big paperwork surcharge monthly or whatever is required and probably do it automagically as well.

Obviously I was a bit surprised by this, especially the $15 service charge from UPS on a $15 Tariff.

As the economist and financial people have been saying ... US people and companies pay the tariff when the goods land ... its not a paid by Chinese companies. Additional, nobody has talked about the service charges that the shipping companies are imposing.

Just a little heads up if you are expecting a shipment directly from China.

Please note: I am not saying that Tariffs are good or bad policy - that needs to be decided by people with a lot more Tariff knowledge and experience than I have. This post is meant as just a heads up on what you might experience should you order directly from China.
In September UPS added a $.50 per pound surcharge on all goods from China and Hong Kong. It’s $.25 from all the other South Pacific countries. AI said it was due to fuel charges from that region.

My guess is buying Chinese goods via say Amazon, they roll that price into the product you see on their website as Amazon is the importer of record.

UPS plans surge fee for all China-to-US imports | Supply Chain Dive

GATORBILL66 02-13-2025 08:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteF (Post 2408951)
About a week ago, I had to replace (under warranty) the charger for my Lithium Ion Golf Cart Battery.

The Chinese company was great . They shipped me a new charger from China within two days, and it arrived 4 days after they shipped it ... Air express via UPS.

Surprise, when UPS delivered the charger there was a $15 Tariff due (20% of the $75 charger valuation) and UPS tacked on another $15 service charge.

Obviously I was a bit surprised by this, especially the $15 service charge from UPS on a $15 Tariff.

As the economist and financial people have been saying ... US people and companies pay the tariff when the goods land ... its not a paid by Chinese companies. Additional, nobody has talked about the service charges that the shipping companies are imposing.

Just a little heads up if you are expecting a shipment directly from China.

Please note: I am not saying that Tariffs are good or bad policy - that needs to be decided by people with a lot more Tariff knowledge and experience than I have. This post is meant as just a heads up on what you might experience should you order directly from China.
Hope you learned you lesson. BUY AMERICAN!

DaveNKath 02-13-2025 08:55 AM
Hi, maybe items should be banned and not have a tariff. Items are made cheaper outside of the U.S., BUT the prices are "inflated to U.S. prices. IE: Charge the same price but make it at a cheaper cost. American companies used and still use this practice. Americans, sold out America. The stock market transition of companies to IPO stock investors changed everything for the investor profits. Too bad for the people and economy.
Ok, so lets make all companies privately owned. Stop paying stock investors & pay employees. The U.S. citizen is "the economy.

Haggar 02-13-2025 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by opinionist (Post 2409142)
If tariffs can replace the income tax, then I say bring it on.
If tariffs can help bring jobs back from overseas, I say bring it on.
In 2024 tariffs were 1.6% of total US revenues. If anyone thinks increasing tariffs will eliminate income tax - well, you figure it out.

Increasing tariffs on foreign made imports of steel and aluminum will allow US producers to raise prices.

Either way costs go up. Estimates are that these actions will add another $2,000 to $3,000 to the cost of a car.

So who benefits?

Rickanvic 02-13-2025 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by GATORBILL66 (Post 2409187)
Hope you learned you lesson. BUY AMERICAN!
Hmmm🤔 didn't sound like he had a choice when he got the part under warranty. Easier said than done.


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