Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1956776)

The study was from the JAMA so it has credibility although the sample size 177 would not be large enough for 6 sigma standard deviation reliability.

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1956822)

Since none of this is conclusive, I consider the jury still out. I know over a dozen folks that have survived Covid. I know of two that did not. Those two definitely have "brain fog and fatigue." It's permanent.

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1956917)

When did they contract Covid and how do you know "it's permanent"?

My wife lost taste and smell. It lasted about a week...

Me? No short/long term symptoms... Just a slight fever and body ache for 36 hrs...

We both had Covid well over a year ago...

Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1956816)

Why are you rehashing a thread that was closed? The Mods had a reason for it. I think you are just trying to stir the pot again(as always) I'm done arguing about the "vaccine" and the dreaded "covid". It's not getting anyone, especially me, to change their minds.

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1957021)

I didn't get to read most the thread while it was open. You asked for a link. I gave it to you. Why so upset?

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1956911)

So you decided to break forum rules?

"USERS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DIRECT COMMENTS TOWARD ANOTHER USER."

But since you want to play...

Are you familiar with the definition of the word "could"? Or "for a few months"?

Hardly "long haulers"

And finally, getting your info from WebMD is folly, at best... Pretty much every symptom "could be" cancer...

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1956819)

From the original article that "science daily" took it's info:

While the RCPCH definition of PIMS-TS recognizes the temporal association with COVID-19, it does not require proof of infection or exposure to meet the case definition

So, in other words, we just don't know if there is an association or not

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1956742)

And again, maybe

There is no way to quantify fatigue, brain fog and loss of taste/smell. It is 100% subjective. That doesn't mean it isn't true, it just means we don't know

It's sort of like the guy in a car accident complaining of back pain and can't work. His x-rays, CT and MRI are all negative, the neurologist finds nothing objective, neither does the orthopedist. So now he goes to 2 places----a chiropractor (yuk) and Dan Newlin while he applies for SSDI. He goes to court for disability with testimony from the chiropractor (again yuk), conveniently not presenting the x rays, CTs, MRIs, nor the opinion of the orthopedist or neurologist as evidence. The judge then grants him disability, and the rest of us are supporting him for the rest of his life (or until age 65).
The last one of these I got drawn into I later saw working on the roof of a building hauling 75 pound bundles of shingles up a 20 foot ladder.

So the moral of the story is we still don't know. But from experience, I always look at these cases where there is substantial secondary gain with a jaded eye.

Originally Posted by Becca9800 (Post 1957007)

The 2 w permanent brain fog died. Now, about those hospital administrators and billing clerks diagnosing covid.....?

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1957021)

I didn't get to read most of the thread while it was open. You asked for a link. I gave it to you. Why so upset?

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1957061)

Well, I guess it's permanent for them (sadly)... But it doesn't prove it's permanent for anyone else...

And what about those admins and billing clerks? I supplied a link on that topic...

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 1957062)

Closing a thread isn't removing a thread. I just means no one else can post on it...

Feel free to take your time and peruse what was posted (links included)...

Originally Posted by Northwoods (Post 1957054)

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I don't care if people choose not to get the vaccine. It's their choice and their risk. Because I was vaccinated, I don't think an unvaccinated person is of any risk to me.
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1956707)

This is for you JMintzer. In another thread that was CLOSED, you asked for a link siting the percentage of Covid survivors who develop long haul side effects. Here is an article...........

A Third of COVID Survivors Have Long-Haul Symptoms