Yes, and I always did. Not a whole lot different than alcohol.

Dude, marijuana is an annual, herbaceous plant, which grows naturally. It was originally used in religious ceremonies and in healing. As a natural plant it does not need to be manipulated to become something else, like alcohol, which requires adding ingredients and distilling it.

I guess I don't care. Since MJ is less dangerous than alcohol and alcohol is available legally, there appears to be a hypocritical application of the law. Either we should allow people to use intoxicating (mind-altering) drugs or not. One theory is that since it is easy to grow your own, the alcohol industry lobbies heavily to keep it illegal since making your own booze is much harder. I also make mead, and it is very good, but it is also harder, vodka and whiskey are very hard for a homebrewer. It is also an interesting double standard that you can make mead but not Whiskey or Vodka.

Smells like monied interests are involved in the law making process.

Sorry, what was the question?

Do you want another brownie?

Yes, please

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Me too :)

After all the responses which are all over the map with no conclusion I totally agree. As is suggested a while ago this thread has run its course by now.

And don't bogart that joint or brownie as the case may be.

Hmm, I don't think the point of the thread was to come to a conclusion, Gracie was asking for opinions (and I assume) discussion. I would expect nothing to be concluded on this topic anywhere, and especially here.

But thank you for declaring the topic dead, I wasn't aware we had a monitor.

Marijuana is safe than alcohol.

Gracie, oh yeah, we all remember Gracie.....17 pages ago!

"Unfortunately, there are many folks that are too weakly disciplined to make decisions for themselves and need the gov to run their lives and direct them like mindless zombies."

Saw this comment in a thread about covid research, and thought it was a good response to share with those who keep telling us we should listen to government, regarding marijuana.

I’ve been smoking weed since I was 15 years old off and on ( more on) and spent most of 40 years in many of the most dangerous places in the world and had to be physically and mentally fit , weed never got in the way of that . Since I’ve been retired I smoke maybe one a day usually accompanied by Miles or Coltrane on my lanai . I’ve mostly gotten my weed this summer in a 16,000 square foot weed store in Boston so in one state legal the other puts you in jail and people say weed makes you do silly things ������.Im 82 , I go to gym , bike, walk in the heat of the afternoon go out to dinner most night s, stay up till 1am watching old movies , no medications , MAYBE ITS THE WEED. FYI I never smoked more then 5 cigarettes in my whole life

Sounds like you have a personal agenda on this issue.

What do you crave?

Ignorant response. Do you let your children use booze or other things not for them?

And you appear to be an addict on your "facts" and attitude of better than thou.

Yet here you are, again. Must be stoned.:1rotfl:

Actually WAY different than alcohol.....less destructive to the body organs, mental capacities are impaired either way, but alcohol makes people aggressive and confrontational where a couple of joints and you have the munchies and melt into the sofa singing Kumbuya...far less risky for our law enforcement officers to have to deal with. A couple zoned out is much less likely to generate an abuse/disturbance call....saving a LEO the potential for on of the most risky calls to make. I vote pot.

[QUOTE=Koapaka;1998414]Actually WAY different than alcohol.....less destructive to the body organs, mental capacities are impaired either way, but alcohol makes people aggressive and confrontational where a couple of joints and you have the munchies and melt into the sofa singing Kumbuya...far less risky for our law enforcement officers to have to deal with. A couple zoned out is much less likely to generate an abuse/disturbance call....saving a LEO the potential for on of the most risky calls to make. I vote pot.

As well, most pot users are not violent offenders, which I would like to see our already overstressed law enforcement folks be able to concentrate on.

As taxpayers, we should ensure that monies we are required to pay to house criminals are keeping those risking our safety from us as a society vs wasting funds/space/money/taxes on someone partaking in something that is legal in almost 1/2 the states in the union. (driving impaired by ANYTHING....totally different story.)
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Retired LEO from what I hear from the "street" is that legalization works very well for the dealers, your government taxes and regulates the sale to maximize the money they get , end result is the street dealer can undercut the legal sales by a wide margin and supply a comparative or better product with little concern for interference from law enforcement

Heard on the street - anecdotal, at best.

Reports that marijuana grown in the US is now more popular in Mexico.
"A U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration official told NPR in December that Mexican cartel operatives were smuggling in high-end U.S. marijuana to sell to wealthy customers, though there's no sign so far of a massive southward trade. The DEA declined to comment further in response to a request from the AP."

I've never been a fan of legalizing pot

I think we would be much better off if alcohol was illegal personally if we had to choose between the two. The only reason alcohol was reallowed and marijuana was not after prohibition was pharmacology pressures and monies to ensure marijuana remained illegal.

Yes, the same people that want to bring you endless "vaccines"...that keep you from getting nothing because viruses mutate and will NEVER be able to be vaccinated against as long as there is "other animal transmission" routes (I believe 6-7 know so far).

I’m with you , let’s bring back prohibition, we in organized crime need mor jobs

Yes

Not scientific but info gathered from people from both sides of the transaction, no reason to think they would lie or the business math would be different in any other jurisdiction ?? The American Association of Street Drug Dealers has made no comment as of yet

Do I believe that Mary Jane should be legalized?

Definitely! I am looking forward to seeing a real life version of the movie "Idiocracy." I want everyone (except me) to partake in Wacky Weed, so I will eventually be considered a genius, and then be crowned KING.

Also, eating a few of 10mg THC gummies a day won't give you liver damage, contribute to a stroke, or to a heart attack. Drinking a couple bottles of booze every day will.

The question is not whether or not pot is bad for you, it's whether it should be legal.

We're talking about a weed that was cultivated so heavily for the fiber prior to being outlawed, that it now grows wild in the highway ditches of nearly every state in the union. Outlawing weed worked about as well as outlawing dandelions.

Personally, I'm an American. Liberty is the whole reason we have an America, and believe it or not, liberty even extends to stupid people. Yes, I think adults have a right to their stupidity -- even, to a reasonable extent, the right to try their own stupid way of raising their own stupid offspring. I think stupid people get to control what poisons they stupidly choose to ingest for whatever stupid reason they choose!

If you don't even have the right to choose what you put in your mouth, how can you say you live in a Free Country?

I wouldn't outlaw ANY drug, much less a weed. But if we insist on having an FDA to approve SOME drugs, why are untested "CBD" concoctions exempt, and free to make any ludicrous claim they want -- much less untested nicotine concoctions for kids to "vape" themselves to death 40 years quicker than a cigarette?

In my perfect world, the FDA would be required to test ALL drugs sold for human consumption. It would publish the results, and require an honest label listing the contents and warnings. But we would quit sending people to jail for ingesting their favorite poisons, tested or otherwise.

And we would throw the book at junkies who steal our stuff to support their stupid habit!

Yes. My wife uses it to offset effects of Chemo. I use it for recreational purposes, since I retired in ‘09.

Seems like one of the more popular topics! Let's legalize it and pay down the National Debt, just with the sales from The Villages

Just a simple answer, without all of the possible hoopla...YES

Marijuana isn't really a weed, it's a herb. CBD has so little THC in it that one would have to smoke pounds of it to feel any effect. I wish thy would start using hemp in more products from paper to home building.

Yes, liberty allows one to choose, as long as it isn't detrimental to other people's freedom. Marijuana was legal in the US for 130 years before prohibition. And, yes, a 10mg gummie, an hour or so before bed, allows one to have a great nite sleep.

So was cocaine. So was radium. Isn't a weed it is an herb, there is in the real world no difference. In terms of government is a tomato a fruit or a vegetable? I has been a debate for a while. Why does it matter? It matters because of the taxes and the subsidies that apply. Marijuana. I'm not sure where stand on it. Handled as an illegal substance, not based on any recent activity but there is/was stuff out there mixed with manure and other mixed with opiates.

I do find it interesting the parallel to prohibition. When alcohol was illegal consumption actually went up and the government spent a fortune policing it. Alcohol was again legalized perhaps due to the loss of tax revenue. I has always been highly taxed.
Gambling. Sadly amusing. The government went into off track betting. In private hands it was highly profitable. The government made little profit and in New York they lost money. Prostitution. The government has not gone into that YET. Oh wait there is Vegas.

For what it is worth a perfect world does not exist and never has. Even not sending people to jail has been tried. So has burning people at the stake, tearing them apart etc.
Engineering and medical knowledge. Maximum pain for the longest time. There ar books in the Vatican with written texts on the screams and how many ratchet notches before the arms tore out in the attempt to convert non-christians.

Steal our stuff? Jail? Electric chair? What about if it is your kid? Not everyone is as perfect as I think I am.

What more can you say?
 

That about says it all folks. Good night Gracie.

Hard to take anything you say seriously when your first comparison is cocaine. You do know that cocaine doesn't come naturally, right ? Its the result of chemically processing the coca plant. Chewing coca leaves is nothing like doing cocaine.

Other than that, your pretty spot on.