In this day and time it all depends on who you are. So sad, not that I care that much....

Modern vehicles can only protect you so much without going full blown NASCAR rigged! Tiger is alive and that says a lot!

I wonder how much the tigger contributed to the sheriffs retirement fund?

Just wait, there will be a leak.
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Why, why why?

Have you seen pictures of the car, notably the front end damage?

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pls review the ENTIRE Thread to answer your 'old' question...
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I own a Hyundai. When I purchased it I was told by the salesman that Hyundai is the only car manufacturer in the world that makes it's own steel and their steel is stronger than most others. I did some investigation into the matter and found that they use an advanced high-strength steel in their cars. Maybe this incident is a great advertisement for Hyundai.

Today's new generation of Hyundai models use a material in their vehicle structures called Advanced High Strength Steel, or AHSS.
Every production car starts life as rolls of steel, and not all are created equal. Hyundai wanted only the best, a material known as Advanced High Strength Steel. Generally speaking, AHSS is any steel that exceeds normal standards for tensile strength in terms of pressure and is usually measured in megapascals or MPa. Compared to regular mild steel, Hyundai's Advanced High Strength Steel has double the tensile strength compared to regular steel but is 10% lighter.

That there’s some funny ****..

48 Cadillac was bus! :icon_wink:

Well, probably reason his ex wife swung the 7 iron at him or was it 9 iron?

A "FORE" iron... ;)

The Freedom of Information Act does not pertain to divulging medical information of private citizens who are not charged with committing any crimes. That is protected by HIPAA.

Here's my guess for the "it wasn't that" bingo card:

He had his car on cruise control and his foot was wedged under the gas pedal. When he realized he needed to put his foot on the brake, he panicked and was unable to unwedge his foot, and the cruise control just kept him moving at a steady pace (which is why no skid marks). It would also explain why he broke his lower leg.

The real "WHY" is WHY is this thread still going?

That is a good guess. Here is mine;. I am a golfer, well actually I don't play anymore, but for 46 years I was a frequent golfer and really watch and read all things golf. I watched Tiger Woods interactions and face the day before this happened when he was being interviewed doing a special at the course. I thought....his eyes are not completely opened. I wonder if he is back on some kind of drugs. It is very hard for people to escape the addictive force of drugs, alcohol and cigarettes.

That is what I thought. I cannot think why, if he was driving impaired, why his blood wasn't tested. Something seems to be missing. It seems strange to point out that the cause would not be made public. So we are left to guessing. Some folks are cross eyed Tiger fans and some are not, this also sways their opinions. People will think what they think and sooner or later we will see evidence of these thoughts or not.

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please don't give the Mods any incentive to do just that. Some folks still want to offer their views. Nothing political. No reason to close. I'll close with the old adage - don't read it then.

I must say, I am VERY interested to know the TRUTH. They made a HUGE NEWS crush during the accident, but now...silence. One must wonder. But I guess money and power and influence still talks. But the truthful cause doesn't.

I like Tiger and all his accomplishments. But if the truth is not revealed, it will be an albatross.
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Poor tiger, to be continued

I already explained the mechanism of injury. It is quite common in a front end collision...

You get a Lis-Franc dislocation, and a lower leg fracture from stomping on the brake and the sudden stop...

Duh....F.O.I.A as it pertains to the investigation of the accident, including toxicology. That has nothing to do with his personal medical records or HIPAA

Based on the pictures published, the car looked to be pushed in a considerable amount. Not sure air bags can help when the car becomes a couple of fee shorter. Just a thought.

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The very few details released publicly, that were derived from the car's 'black box', was that THE BRAKES WERE NEVER APPLIED during the entire incident.
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You'll get the same injury if you miss the brake pedal and brace your foot against the floorboard...

Plus, I read there were no skid marks. ABS will not leave skid marks...

ABS does leave skid marks. They tend to look faded, like they were a month ago, but are definitely there.

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of course there were no skid marks - as the black box showed - NO brake application. "Brace your foot against the floorboard. ??? OK, in the typical SUV - there is the accelerator - the brake pedal - and the open space LEFT of the brake. So you're saying his RIGHT foot "missed the brake and moved to the LEFT of the brake pedal to brace - while his left foot was in that area??? And his left leg was uninjured. hmmm.

We'll never know unless Tiger or the Authorities release the details of the investigation. It was telling when the authorities IMMEDIATELY stated "It was an accident" just after arriving and giving some public comments.

I'm not saying that Tiger (as some are saying) fell asleep, Ambien, other narcs, drunk, etc etc. But will always be that ???? until the truth is revealed. And NOTHING said re damage to the 'floorboard area' re his massive right leg injury. silence.

I AM a Tiger fan, and wish he was at the Masters this week. I LOVED watching him play with his son Charley. But he owns his actions, and really should not be 'protected' by authorities - we surely wouldn't.
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Over 100 messages I scanned about 5 , it was an accident , none of our business . I don’t think many of you that have had an accident including me want to tell the world about it . I certainly didn’t follow the story as much as the experts on here, but I think there has been more information put out there then any of us would be required to do and again it was an accident get over it move on to someone else to shame and gossip about

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the latest as of this morning (just wonder how much detail will be provided...)>>>


TIGER WOODS Published 1 hour ago
Tiger Woods car crash cause set to be revealed: report
Authorities initially said the cause may never be revealed

The cause of Tiger Woods’ car crash that left the legendary golfer with serious leg injuries is reportedly set to be revealed by the Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department on Wednesday.

Authorities are expected to blame excessive speed as the reason why Woods wrecked a 2021 Genesis SUV near Ranchos Palos Verdes in late February, TMZ Sports reported. Sources told the gossip website that Woods lost control of the vehicle and authorities are pinning the crash on speed.

According to TMZ Sports, the investigation determined that Woods "accelerated" at the time of the wreck and the SUV gained speed before crashing. It’s reportedly unclear whether Woods was unconscious before he lost control of the vehicle or whether he was a distracted driver.

The Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department said last week that a cause of the crash was determined but details of the crash would not be released due to privacy concerns for Woods.

"A cause has been determined, the investigation has concluded," Sheriff Alex Villanueva said last week.

"We have reached out to Tiger Woods and his personnel. There's some privacy issues on releasing information on the investigation so we're going to ask them if they waive the privacy and then we will be able to do a full release on all the information regarding the accident."

Villanueva added that authorities have "all the contents of the black box" that was in the SUV but cannot release the details "without the permission of the people involved in the collision."

Woods said that he did not know how the crash happened, and he didn’t remember driving. When a witness first approached the scene of the crash, Woods was unconscious, but a sheriff's deputy said that Woods was in a state of shock and was able to answer simple questions.

Authorities have said there was no evidence Woods was under the influence of drugs or alcohol at the time of the wreck. He suffered significant leg injuries in the crash and was moved back to his home in Florida last month.

100% agree. They need to mind their businss not anyone elses business.

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????????? So STOP the NEWS! None of our business! Nothing to see here folks, move along. DO NOT shame or gossip!

Tiger, being Tiger - a mega-public figure, and the MEDIA made this an international HUGE news event.

I don't have much more to say about your comment other than ???????
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It is time for you to move on and stop focusing on an accident that has zero impact on your life.

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YOUR opinion. It's called public interest in current events. So that hits a nerve of some here. Must there ALWAYS be naysayers?

I always say I could post "It's a beautiful day in The Villages!"

Some will rsp "I see a CLOUD!" "It may rain later!" "Oh it's too hot" And now... "Why do you focus on the weather? - Time to move on.
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83 in a a 45. End of story.

You mean like your focus on a post you don't like? Sheesh. :ohdear:

Please stay on the topic and quit sniping at each other or the thread will be closed.

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thank you Mod!

sniping. To make malicious, underhand remarks or attacks.
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let's be adults and 'talk' online as we would personally to each other - sans keyboard.

I enjoy the give<>take on TOTV, but the sniping (snarky comments) gets infantile at times.
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After watching the news conference today on the cause of the crash, the only word that came to my mind was:

Gobbledygook

Police say speeding, why no tickets? Oh I forgot, tiger woods.

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well, they may have answered the What? But NOT WHY or HOW?

Tiger Woods driving more than 82 mph before crash, unclear if he was conscious, sheriff says
Brent Schrotenboer
USA TODAY

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...To learn more about what happened, the sheriff’s department then execute a search warrant to obtain the data from the vehicle’s black box, which typically shows speed, steering and braking activity before impact.

After obtaining the data, Villanueva offered some clarification on March 17 when he said there were no “obvious” signs of impairment. He then went on to talk about “lessons learned” and said, “I can tell you this: We do need more drug-recognition experts within the department.”

Drug-recognition experts (DRE) are law enforcement officers trained to recognize signs of impairment that are not obvious. After a crash, they go through a 12-step process to evaluate a driver for impairment and can request a blood examination. No DRE was used in the Woods case because Villanueva said then that it wasn’t necessary.

“We can’t just assume that somebody’s history makes them guilty,” sheriff's deputy John Schloegl told USA TODAY Sports March 2.
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Tiger Woods update: Driving 82 mph before crash, unclear if conscious

I imagine he was late for his appointment and was in a hurry, driving 84-87 mph in a 45 mph zone. Plus he probably wasn't familiar with the terrain.

Speed kills.

Excerpts from the above news article

Sheriff Alex Villanueva said Woods was traveling more than 82 mph in a 45-mph zone and instead of braking was actually accelerating prior to impact, according to data received from the black box recorder of Woods’ loaner Genesis SUV.

After obtaining the data, Villanueva offered some clarification on March 17 when he said there were no “obvious” signs of impairment. He then went on to talk about “lessons learned” and said, “I can tell you this: We do need more drug-recognition experts within the department.”

From the Police report...

"“The data recorder also recorded braking. There was no evidence of braking throughout this collision. It is speculated and believed that Tiger Woods inadvertently hit the accelerator instead of the brake pedal, causing the 99 percent rating on the accelerating pedal.”"

L.A. Sheriff’s report concludes speeding the cause of Tiger Woods’ car accident | Golf News and Tour Information | GolfDigest.com