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paulandjean 04-01-2012 07:52 AM

If is was not for Sharpton and Jackson no one would have known about this. George Zimmerman would have walked away, no charges a free man. He probably would be getting away with murder. Remember all of this happened a month before the lid blew off.

Taltarzac725 04-01-2012 08:00 AM

Shooting of Trayvon Martin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They had frozen this wikipedia article a few days ago but it looks like it now has new information added.

RichieLion 04-01-2012 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 474010)
Wrong. Go back to the first post. This thread is about how the media coverage of the event. Al Sharpton is now a commentator for MSNBC, a news channel so far to the left in its coverage that it makes Fox News seem fair and balanced.

BTW, can you imagine how Sharpton and his ally Jesse Jackson would be reacting if the races of the shooter and deceased were reversed and you had the media and white demonstrators clamoring for the arrest of a black man on the basis of the sketchy public evidence indicating that Zimmerman committed a crime?

This is all and only about race. If Zimmerman was black, or Martin was white, this would be a page 6 story in the paper of maybe 30 words maximum.

dillywho 04-01-2012 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 474032)
Shooting of Trayvon Martin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They had frozen this wikipedia article a few days ago but it looks like it now has new information added.

Very interesting read.

The news on Channel 6 also played the ambulance dispatch recordings last night where the ambulance for Zimmerman was cancelled because it was determined that he didn't need to be transported. An air ambulance was requested for Martin, but they were not allowed to fly because of the bad weather.

Bucco 04-01-2012 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RichieLion (Post 474051)
This is all and only about race. If Zimmerman was black, or Martin was white, this would be a page 6 story in the paper of maybe 30 words maximum.

In Kansas City at about the same time as this event, 3 young black youths chased a white young man who was on his way home from school. They chased him to his front porch, poured oil on him, called him a "whitey" and set fire to him.

Awful… Black Youths Douse Student With Gas & Torch Him, “This Is What You Deserve, White Boy” (Video) | The Gateway Pundit

Wondering if anyone heard about this.

And dont start with the stuff.....this case in Florida is so very sad, but it and you are being used so badly. This has become a political ping pong ball and this family will be dropped as fast as you can say "next issue"

billethkid 04-01-2012 09:54 AM

I merely said the NAACP was taking exception to Sharpton's aggressive racist behavior and that in and of itself is a statement....eh?

For the gotta have a links:

Civil rights leaders condemn Sharpton's call for escalated civil disobedience | News - Home

btk

CMANN 04-01-2012 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 474030)
If is was not for Sharpton and Jackson no one would have known about this. George Zimmerman would have walked away, no charges a free man. He probably would be getting away with murder. Remember all of this happened a month before the lid blew off.

is there any evidence of murder? Is there any reason to show that Zimmerman should not walk away with no charges? I don't understand what you think Sharpton will it off of. You obviously have a very prejudiced opinion. What say you?

janmcn 04-02-2012 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CMANN (Post 474350)
is there any evidence of murder? Is there any reason to show that Zimmerman should not walk away with no charges? I don't understand what you think Sharpton will it off of. You obviously have a very prejudiced opinion. What say you?

Evidence of murder? How about: Dead unarmed 17 year old and George Zimmerman told not to follow him

audio of 911 calls where a person is heard screaming for help

anylysis of 911 calls reporting that voice is not George Zimmerman

video of Zimmerman arriving at station 25 minutes after shot was fired with no visible bruises after saying he had just been in a life or death fight

report by ambulance driver stating Zimmerman did not require first aid at scene

eye-witness accounts

police reports stating Zimmerman should be charged

funeral director stating Trayvon Martin had no bruises indicating a fight took place

Not one word George Zimmerman has said has turned out to be true.

redwitch 04-02-2012 09:31 AM

Did see a news blurb this morning where they enhanced Zimmerman footage when he was brought into the police station showing marks on the back of his head. For now, I'll wait until all facts are out before drawing any conclusions, although I do have my own theories.

I do think Zimmerman should have been charged with something and that, to me, is the big issue -- he was charged with nothing, nada, zilch and a young man died. The investigation seemed to be halfhearted. The Martin family asked that more investigation be conducted, that Zimmerman be arrested. They were denied, so they brought in anyone they could to get publicity out. It worked.

This tragic event gained nationwide (and now worldwide) attention because the Martins wouldn't let it go and kept demanding justice, which they feel has not yet been received. Sharpton, et al., have accomplished what the Martins wanted, although it may not quite end up with the result they wanted. Trayvon is being made out to be a thug. He's being condemned for a gold tooth (which could have been a gift rather than something he purchased by himself); for smoking pot (not so uncommon for his age); basically, for being a young, black male.

Yes, there have been other tragedies before and since this occurrence that resulted in little news. In most of those cases the perpetrator was either arrested or not known. So, really not sure what relevance there is to the posting of other tragic, ugly deaths in the U.S.

twinklesweep 04-02-2012 10:50 AM

News coverage points of view.
 
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Originally Posted by jflynn1 (Post 470239)
Interesting: Every News organiozation in the world has been reporting on this tragic event in Sanford Florida. Not One word in the Daily Sun, The Fun Only Newsletter. It is a shame they call themselves a news organization.

Going back to this, the first post on this thread, which makes the thread about news coverage ONLY, I just received this link in a mass email from I don't even know who. But it IS about news coverage of "this tragic event in Sanford Florida," while so many responses have gone far afield from what the thread was meant to be about.

The only FACTS we truly know are that (1) Zimmerman had the gun, and (2) Martin is dead. Everything else is surmise, political, racist, guessing and second-guessing, ignorance, single-mindedness, and who knows what else. When this sad incident is played out in the proper channels, maybe then we'll know the real truth. Maybe! I too am posting ONLY about news coverage, so let's see where this takes us! Link below:

Fox News Coverage of the Trayvon Martin Case Criticized - The Daily Beast

twinklesweep 04-02-2012 11:21 AM

Sadly not surprised!
 
When I read through the posts on this thread, I cannot help but notice that some make outrageous statements that are either completely ignored by the poster or are responded to in a way that is completely irrelevant to the point that was raised. Since I cannot figure out how to quote a post that includes a quote, here are a couple of examples I can think of:

A comment that having gold teeth = being a drug dealer. Huh? The response was that making such an assumption would be like making the assumption that everyone in TV wearing a sun visor = being a golfer. This seems reasonable to me, since I wear a visor and I am not a golfer. Then too, I don't have gold teeth.

A comment that the rally in Sanford was a "lynching committee," and when someone who ACTUALLY attended stated that it was a rally supporting justice in the case, the response raised several points--but completely ignored the falsity of the original statement that it would be a "lynching committee." We know from history what a "lynching committee" means! I could not even comment on an event that I'm not going to attend in terms of what the tone of it will be. But that's me.

My previous post is clear: The only "truth" we will know is when this is played out by the appropriate authorities, so I'm not taking a position. All I can do is agree with the poster who pointed out those whose view on so much is "Don't confuse me with the facts. My mind is already made up." Sad, this quality of the behavior and attitudes of some, but not surprising, to me anyway.

CMANN 04-02-2012 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 474445)
Evidence of murder? How about: Dead unarmed 17 year old and George Zimmerman told not to follow him

audio of 911 calls where a person is heard screaming for help

anylysis of 911 calls reporting that voice is not George Zimmerman

video of Zimmerman arriving at station 25 minutes after shot was fired with no visible bruises after saying he had just been in a life or death fight

report by ambulance driver stating Zimmerman did not require first aid at scene

eye-witness accounts

police reports stating Zimmerman should be charged

funeral director stating Trayvon Martin had no bruises indicating a fight took place

Not one word George Zimmerman has said has turned out to be true.

Like I said, evidence of murder?

janmcn 04-02-2012 05:56 PM

The FBI is on the scene. They will get to the bottom of this. Plus the grand jury will evaluate the evidence on April 10, next Tuesday.

Taltarzac725 04-02-2012 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 474641)
The FBI is on the scene. They will get to the bottom of this. Plus the grand jury will evaluate the evidence on April 10, next Tuesday.

Good to hear.

CMANN 04-03-2012 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 474641)
The FBI is on the scene. They will get to the bottom of this. Plus the grand jury will evaluate the evidence on April 10, next Tuesday.

On what grounds is the federal government getting involved in a state case?


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