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Taltarzac725 04-03-2012 07:03 AM

Hate Crimes Prevention Act seems to give the FBI jurisdiction.
 
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Originally Posted by CMANN (Post 474732)
On what grounds is the federal government getting involved in a state case?

Professor Kami Chavis Simmons publishes ‘Justice for Trayvon Martin and James Craig Anderson: Federal Hate Crimes Legislation and the Case for Cooperative Federalism’ in The Huffington Post | News & Events | Wake Forest School of Law

CMANN 04-03-2012 02:28 PM

Another racist stretch! IMHO

janmcn 04-03-2012 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CMANN (Post 474905)
Another racist stretch! IMHO

Apparently the Justice Department didn't find it a stretch when they dispatched the FBI to the scene.

redwitch 04-03-2012 08:04 PM

I know the Martin family specifically requested that the Feds investigate the lack of any charges being brought against Zimmerman. They stated they not only did not trust the Sanford PD, but had grave doubts that the State would investigate fairly. So, perhaps Sanford itself requested that the Feds investigate (good political move for a town that is desperately trying to get their reputation back since many are boycotting Sanford) and the Feds will usually step in when a request by a municipal entity.

manaboutown 04-08-2012 09:54 AM

This is so typical of the mainstream media.

NBC fires producer over edited Zimmerman 911 call | The Upshot - Yahoo! News

janmcn 04-08-2012 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 476755)

NBC did the right thing firing this producer over edited calls, as did the National Review when they fired John Derbeyshire for his racist rants.


National Review Fires Derbyshire | ThinkProgress

skyguy79 04-08-2012 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 476755)

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 476787)
NBC did the right thing firing this producer over edited calls, as did the National Review when they fired John Derbeyshire for his racist rants.

National Review Fires Derbyshire | ThinkProgress

Did NBC really do the right thing? John Derbeyshire was specifically named and for what he did whereas the phantom NBC producer was not named nor was any wrong doing admitted - only statement made was that a "procedural mistake" was made and no apology by any wrong doer. And as for any investigation? Well NBC investigating isn't much more creditable than if it was only the gated community in Sanford investigating Zimmerman. Manaboutown is correct. It is typical of a mainstream media organization like NBC. Wasn't their first lack of journalistic integrity, and undoubtedly won't be their last!

janmcn 04-09-2012 11:21 AM

NBC News is reporting that the special prosecutor appointed in this case, Angela Corey, will not convene the grand jury as scheduled tomorrow. Hopefully, this is good news and means that an arrest is imminent, at least that is what the family is lead to believe.

manaboutown 04-09-2012 11:38 AM

Here is an update on the evidence and how the mainstream media has distorted the situation so much from the get go, creating myths, rather than reporting the facts. For example, they conveniently left out much of the Zimmerman's 911 call which indicated he was no longer attempting to confront the young man. Indeed, it appears Martin attacked Zimmerman from behind. Tayvon Martin « The Conservative Review

Advogado 04-09-2012 12:06 PM

The lynch-mob mentality
 
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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 477196)
NBC News is reporting that the special prosecutor appointed in this case, Angela Corey, will not convene the grand jury as scheduled tomorrow. Hopefully, this is good news and means that an arrest is imminent, at least that is what the family is lead to believe.

Why would an arrest necessarily be good news? It might or might not be, depending on ALL the facts, which at this point, neither you, the the media, nor Al Sharpton has.

Bucco 04-09-2012 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 477196)
NBC News is reporting that the special prosecutor appointed in this case, Angela Corey, will not convene the grand jury as scheduled tomorrow. Hopefully, this is good news and means that an arrest is imminent, at least that is what the family is lead to believe.

Here is hoping that NBC will not doctor the NEWS this time and just report it.

paulandjean 04-09-2012 12:12 PM

"Why would a arrest be good news"? Because he did wrong,and you get arrested for doing things wrong.We hear all about Geoge Zimmerman and "Stand Your Ground" maybe you could also say Travon Martin was doing the same thing. Standing His Ground.

Advogado 04-09-2012 12:59 PM

Arrests for probable cause that defendant committed a crime
 
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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 477222)
"Why would a arrest be good news"? Because he did wrong,and you get arrested for doing things wrong.We hear all about Geoge Zimmerman and "Stand Your Ground" maybe you could also say Travon Martin was doing the same thing. Standing His Ground.

You hopefully don't get arrested for doing what in your, or my view, is the wrong thing. Otherwise a whole lot of people would get arrested when they have committed no crime.

For example, I think that you, Al Sharpton, and the media are doing the wrong thing in calling for Zimmerman's arrest (on the basis of now-publicly- available information), rather than demanding a more-thorough look at the case, if you think that the original investigation was flawed. While you, in my view, are certainly doing the wrong thing, I not calling for your arrest.

You hopefully only get arrested when law enforcement authorities have "probable cause" to believe that you committed a CRIME. When, and if, law enforcement authorities truly believe (as opposed to being pressured by one-sided reporting in the media and by Sharpton-led demonstrations) that they have probable cause to believe that George Zimmerman committed a CRIME, I will join you in calling his arrest "good news".

skyguy79 04-09-2012 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 477222)
"Why would a arrest be good news"? Because he did wrong,and you get arrested for doing things wrong.We hear all about Geoge Zimmerman and "Stand Your Ground" maybe you could also say Travon Martin was doing the same thing. Standing His Ground.

It's not "Because he did wrong," but rather "IF" he did wrong! The findings of back seat judges and jurors have no place in an American Justice System. BTW, who's paying for the expenses to municipal budgets across our country for the security needs surrounding those engaging in all these back seat justice activities? Well, you can be sure it's the working & retired tax payers and not the civil and racial activists participating in these excessive activities! These kinds don't care what their excessive actions cost others!

Bogie Shooter 04-09-2012 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 477203)
Here is an update on the evidence and how the mainstream media has distorted the situation so much from the get go, creating myths, rather than reporting the facts. For example, they conveniently left out much of the Zimmerman's 911 call which indicated he was no longer attempting to confront the young man. Indeed, it appears Martin attacked Zimmerman from behind. Tayvon Martin « The Conservative Review

the conservative review.....just another opinion.


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