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clekr 03-25-2012 12:40 PM

Please see this article. If this is true the nation media and others are guilty of grossly distorting the facts to create a victim.

Zimmerman was on the ground being punched when he shot Trayvon Martin - Charleston Charleston Conservative | Examiner.com

jebartle 03-25-2012 01:11 PM

Trip to 7-ll for Skittles and Ice Tea at night...
 
Hmmm!....Poor choice in Orlando, doesn't matter what race you are!!...I'm just saying!

janmcn 03-25-2012 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CMANN (Post 471395)
There are states that don't recognize a persons right to self defense. You will end up in court, with a lawyer getting rich and you were the victim.

I like the Florida plan better.

This works both ways. When George Zimmerman finally shows his face and gets his head blown off, the shooter can invoke the "stand your ground" law and save the state of Florida thousands of dollars. Just guessing this law is the reason Casey Anthony never goes out in public.

zcaveman 03-25-2012 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by clekr (Post 471397)
Please see this article. If this is true the nation media and others are guilty of grossly distorting the facts to create a victim.

Zimmerman was on the ground being punched when he shot Trayvon Martin - Charleston Charleston Conservative | Examiner.com

Doesn't matter. Zimmerman was told by 911 to leave it alone and let the police take care of it. At worst, he could have followrd Trayvon in his vehicle so the police could have talked to hm (Trayvon).

Zimmermon is akin to neighborhood watch. He did his job when he calld 911. From there on it a police problem.

CMANN 03-26-2012 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 471460)
This works both ways. When George Zimmerman finally shows his face and gets his head blown off, the shooter can invoke the "stand your ground" law and save the state of Florida thousands of dollars. Just guessing this law is the reason Casey Anthony never goes out in public.

Do you plan to collect the Black Panther reward? Your thinking is sick to say the least. IMHO

bkcunningham1 03-26-2012 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by clekr (Post 471397)
Please see this article. If this is true the nation media and others are guilty of grossly distorting the facts to create a victim.

Zimmerman was on the ground being punched when he shot Trayvon Martin - Charleston Charleston Conservative | Examiner.com

Thank you. Very good information that seems to have gotten swept under the rug.

dillywho 03-26-2012 07:37 AM

Things Don't Add Up
 
After seeing one of the interviews with his dad, more questions come to mind. According to him, he did not know that Travon had been killed until the next morning when the police showed up at the door. He said that Zimmerman got to go home the night of the shooting while his son was taken to the morgue with a "John Doe" tag on his foot.

1. Didn't his dad live in that complex with his girlfriend and their son?

2. Hasn't it been reported that Trayvon was from Miami but in Sanford visiting his dad? Reports were that he went to the store for Skittles for his younger half-brother and a tea for himself which is all he had on him (and his cell phone) when he was killed.

3. How did his dad miss all the commotion and why was he not concerned when Trayvon didn't come back from the store?

4. Why did the younger one not complain when he didn't get his Skittles? If he was not too young, why didn't he go looking for Trayvon?

5. Was Trayvon the only one in the complex that Zimmerman didn't know? What about other visitors?

6. One of Zimmerman's friends said that Zimmerman didn't like confrontation and would never kill anyone. If that's true, why did he confront Trayvon and why did he carry a gun?

7. If the police didn't know who Trayvon was until the next day, why did they just take Zimmerman's word for it that the shooting was self-defense?

janmcn 03-26-2012 07:47 AM

I heard they didn't identify him for three days while they had his cell phone the whole time. Didn't they hear the phone ringing or think to call the last number dialed? And these are the people responsible for investigating this crime.

redwitch 03-26-2012 07:48 AM

I don't know the facts. I'm not the police. However, it does sound like there was no real investigation until the family demanded justice by going public and by asking for media help. I have seen interviews with people who lived in this complex (three white and one black). These four were unanimous in comments that the police either did not interview them at all or asked very perfunctory questions.

I don't like Sharpton or Farrakhan. They are both media hounds who really don't care about anything but their own publicity. Jesse Jackson at one time really did fight for juistice. Now, I'm not sure what his stance is. However, from what I have read and heard, there was no justice in this case. Hopefully, there will be in the near future.

As to the Sun not reporting much about this, not much I can say there. I do not consider the Sun a newspaper. It's a feel-good blurb that is a great marketing tool for the developer and fun for Villagers. Sanford is not in TV, so has little relevance to the developer. However, this is a story that has merited world-wide attention. To not have even one piece on the front page of a something purported to be a newspaper is, at best, pathetic. It really is bigger news than the age and make of someone's car.

BobKat1 03-26-2012 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 471713)
I don't know the facts. I'm not the police. However, it does sound like there was no real investigation until the family demanded justice by going public and by asking for media help. I have seen interviews with people who lived in this complex (three white and one black). These four were unanimous in comments that the police either did not interview them at all or asked very perfunctory questions.

I don't like Sharpton or Farrakhan. They are both media hounds who really don't care about anything but their own publicity. Jesse Jackson at one time really did fight for juistice. Now, I'm not sure what his stance is. However, from what I have read and heard, there was no justice in this case. Hopefully, there will be in the near future.

As to the Sun not reporting much about this, not much I can say there. I do not consider the Sun a newspaper. It's a feel-good blurb that is a great marketing tool for the developer and fun for Villagers. Sanford is not in TV, so has little relevance to the developer. However, this is a story that has merited world-wide attention. To not have even one piece on the front page of a something purported to be a newspaper is, at best, pathetic. It really is bigger news than the age and make of someone's car.

Yes, I would like to be a fly on the wall at a Sun editorial meeting (if they have them) to hear the discussion about whether or not to report on the story, or run an AP feed article etc.

Taltarzac725 03-26-2012 11:38 AM

Zimmerman was on the ground being punched when he shot Trayvon Martin - Charleston Charleston Conservative | Examiner.com

This article from a conservative newspaper looks like it is based on one witness statement.

Witness statements are often extremely unreliable.

I do hope more of the actual facts come out now rather than much later like in the Casey Anthony case where it seemed the defense did most of the gritty investigation.

daca55 03-26-2012 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by army one (Post 470334)
Here we go again. We are letting the media determine the verdict before the case ever gets to court. We are doing the same as with the Anthony situation. I don't believe half of what any media prints and the other half is always a fabrication. Nuff Sail

:agree: On the surface it seems like a the boy was shot because of his color by someone who didn't see color. I like to wait till I hear both sides of the story before I decide as to who is right or wrong. It may of happened just as the media is saying but we really haven't heard from the shooter and I still like to believe that a person is considered innocent until proven guilty. :spoken:

blueash 03-26-2012 12:00 PM

We have heard from the shooter
 
His 911 calls are available. We will never hear from the victim. Others need to speak for him.

billethkid 03-26-2012 01:46 PM

it would do well for the masses to stop the reference to color. Other than the racist opportunists what value does it add? None!

Could you reach a decision solely based on what you have seen and heard and think you know thus far? Of course not. And as far as I am concerned the media is the last place to learn from since they have multiple agendas and the truth is not their priority....being first is their sole priority....and as in the past when (not if) they get it wrong they can always feign some other source that makes them clean (in their narrow minded view of the world anyway).

The problem with the media discovering they could be wrong is they don't have to be the ones to announce it. They may in fact stand pat until or unless it becomes public information from another source. Do I think they would sit on incriminating (either side) information. Absolutely yes and conditional upon whether it serves their agenda or not.

I hate to say it that way but that is what their very biased reporting performance has earned from me.

btk

trichard 03-26-2012 01:59 PM

Where's the outrage with the FAMU hazing death?!! Recent revelations show that the President was well aware of the problem!


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