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blaZen 03-26-2012 02:22 PM

Over a monrh
 
This incident happened over a month ago. Media acts like it was last week. Nevertheless, it has been over 30 days, and we still do not have the complete picture of what actually went on. Remember the Duke Lacross story?????

grrrrex 03-26-2012 03:07 PM

Interesting..I don't know who is right or wrong as the facts are still coming out. but I find it interesting that some folks who seem most against violence would appear to be happy to see that violence applied to Mr.Zimmerman.
Grrrrex

PennBF 03-26-2012 04:41 PM

Facts
 
As I understand it and from the last reporting by the news it is alleged;
1. The guard had called 911, and was told to return to his car.
2. The guard started back to his car and Trayron asked him if he had a problem?
3. The guard said no and proceeded towards his car.
4. Trayon proceeded towards him and said you do now and punched him in the nose.
5. The guard was then taken to the ground by Trayon and he [Trayon]
was on top of him.
6. The guard was yelling for help as he was pinned to the ground.
7. Earlier, couple of days or week Trayon was repremanded at school for having pot. He may not be the clean cut kid going home with a candy bar???
Kind of different from the mob hysteria to blame the guard? It is good that
the Sun did not report since the facts are just coming out and they did
not go well for the mob mentality.
(Note: At a minimum Items# 5 and 6 above are alleged to be the testimony from a witness to the Police?):ohdear:

looneycat 03-26-2012 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 470336)
the emoticons are:

he was killed for carrying a bag of candy??? An example of individual extrapolation of facts to make a point.

carrying a gun and permits to do so are at issue? Just another opportunity to question law abiding citizen's right to own/carry a gun. Some how the point that the non law abiding among us will get and carry and use a gun when if there was a law against ownership....even more so once they know the pickings are even easier.

I for one am glad it is not a priority in TV paper. I appreciate the sad state of the incident. I do not appreciate the racist circus the media is helping perpetuate.

btk

Amen! the real truth is we don't know at all what happened. Think about this...people who know GZ say they recognize the voice calling for help as his
people who don't know either one claimed it was the kid???

looneycat 03-26-2012 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 471817)
His 911 calls are available. We will never hear from the victim. Others need to speak for him.

not all were released and we heard from the kid on his call to his girlfriend
unfortunately his last words were him beligerently yelling at zimmerman. By the way the nice kid had pot on him as well, not that it proves anything either.

:shrug:

graciegirl 03-26-2012 05:19 PM

We don't know. We just don't know. But we would know more if someone didn't use a gun.

I don't like guns, but I support the second ammendment rights.

but just see what a mess it is?

billethkid 03-26-2012 05:41 PM

I don't know why one would think we would know more if a gun were not used, but it is opinion one is entitled to have.

Imagine the boy being hit in the head by a black jack with a well placed blow and dying....knowing no more than we know right now why would we know more or why would it be any easier to understand not being a gun?

btk

grrrrex 03-26-2012 05:50 PM

If Mr. Zimmerman is telling the truth, without his pistol, it may well have been he who died.

billethkid 03-26-2012 05:54 PM

on tonight's news it was reported that the boy possessed marijuana and had been suspended from school for it. The supporters of the boy are crying foul saying even if it is true the police are trying to make the boy look bad.

They are not interested in what really happened....what ever that was or may have been...they want their pound of flesh for how they want it believed...don't confuse the issue with facts....eh?

Why are we seeing only posed pictures of the boy? What age is he in the pictures?

Instead of playing the same emotion only scenarios and extensive coverage of the racist opportunists in action stirring the crowds, the media should back off and wait for release of real information. The same old, same old racist drum beating is fast approaching overkill.

btk

manaboutown 03-26-2012 07:04 PM

I believe and trust the US mainstream media on most issues including this story about as much as I believed and trusted the propaganda organs Pravda (translation - Truth) and Izvestia (translation - The Light) back in the days of the USSR. Actually, in the last several years even less so...

Too, the lynch mob mentality generated and maintained by the usual cast of nefarious professional rabble rousers mandates "Don't confuse us with the facts. We have already made up our minds."

All of the facts are not out. Let's find out what really happened here before we pass judgment on anyone.

RichieLion 03-26-2012 07:38 PM

The Daily Caller has the photo that Martin posted on his Twitter account which shows him in an up to date pic.

If you click on the story you can read some of his "tweets", complete with the racially charged twitter name he called himself.

It doesn't prove anything really except maybe to give a better "picture" of this young man.

The Daily Caller

bkcunningham1 03-26-2012 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 471955)
on tonight's news it was reported that the boy possessed marijuana and had been suspended from school for it. The supporters of the boy are crying foul saying even if it is true the police are trying to make the boy look bad.

They are not interested in what really happened....what ever that was or may have been...they want their pound of flesh for how they want it believed...don't confuse the issue with facts....eh?

Why are we seeing only posed pictures of the boy? What age is he in the pictures?

Instead of playing the same emotion only scenarios and extensive coverage of the racist opportunists in action stirring the crowds, the media should back off and wait for release of real information. The same old, same old racist drum beating is fast approaching overkill.

btk

Bravo. Very well stated.

Also, Richie, I saw the current photo of the 17 year old. Unless a reporter is willing to dig and not care whose feelings get hurt when getting to the truth, we will continue to see the mug shot of Zimmerman and the photo of Martin from when he was 13 or 14 years old. I also read the Twitter account where he indicated he'd taken a swing at a school bus driver.

Does any of that explain what happened? Of course not. This is a country based on the rule of law. A grand jury has been conveyned to hear the evidence. I have faith in their verdict to determine if there is enough evidence to charge Zimmerman and allow the case to go to court.

RichieLion 03-26-2012 09:44 PM

More coming out. This is looking a lot less like the "race killing" that the activists and the media alluded to.

Trayvon Martin Case: George Zimmerman Told Police Teen Attacked Him

CMANN 03-26-2012 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichieLion (Post 471992)
The Daily Caller has the photo that Martin posted on his Twitter account which shows him in an up to date pic.

If you click on the story you can read some of his "tweets", complete with the racially charged twitter name he called himself.

It doesn't prove anything really except maybe to give a better "picture" of this young man.

The Daily Caller


I get the impression that Trayvon is not the kid in the published picture. He seems to be a typical black teen who wants to be "Gangsta"

paulandjean 03-27-2012 07:04 AM

They also have released a new photo of Zimmerman,Clean shaven,shirt and tie,supposely release by his attorney.


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