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ThirdOfFive 07-03-2024 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2346393)
I hope so. But if it is impossible, it's still impossible

Indeed it is.

Until its not.

I remember seeing some old sci-fi movie (1920's--silent movie, anyway). There was a slogan posted with the credits that went "there is no "never". Only "not yet".

Shipping up to Boston 07-03-2024 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2346630)
Indeed it is.

Until its not.

I remember seeing some old sci-fi movie (1920's--silent movie, anyway). There was a slogan posted with the credits that went "there is no "never". Only "not yet".

I think i saw that slogan....in the ER waiting room at Sloan Kettering

ElDiabloJoe 07-03-2024 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2346668)
I think i saw that slogan....in the ER waiting room at Sloan Kettering

Hmmmmmmmm, any connection to the UFO-related Kettering Incident?

fdpaq0580 07-03-2024 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by thirdoffive (Post 2346630)
indeed it is.

Until its not.

I remember seeing some old sci-fi movie (1920's--silent movie, anyway). There was a slogan posted with the credits that went "there is no "never". Only "not yet".

yes!

mraines 07-04-2024 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2345431)
Cannot see why any intelligent space travellers would want to have anything to do with us unless we become a threat after technological advances allow us to travel further out into space. Intelligent life would keep a distance and just watch with as few contacts as possible.

I don't know why anyone would presume that we are the only life form in this vast universe. Anyone who could travel here is far more intelligent than we are. There are reports of them being around our nuclear plants. We are not smart enough to keep from destroying our planet (e.g. climate change deniers), so I am sure they are afraid we will destroy their habitat. We are already leaving behind space junk. It is not enough that we are polluting this planet, we want to pollute space and other planets.

Shipping up to Boston 07-04-2024 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mraines (Post 2346914)
I don't know why anyone would presume that we are the only life form in this vast universe. Anyone who could travel here is far more intelligent than we are. There are reports of them being around our nuclear plants. We are not smart enough to keep from destroying our planet (e.g. climate change deniers), so I am sure they are afraid we will destroy their habitat. We are already leaving behind space junk. It is not enough that we are polluting this planet, we want to pollute space and other planets.

“There are reports of them being around our nuclear plants”

Some of the tightest paramilitary security patrols the inner/outer perimeter of nuclear power plants....it’s not CW! I call BS on this one

fdpaq0580 07-04-2024 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mraines (Post 2346914)
I don't know why anyone would presume that we are the only life form in this vast universe. Anyone who could travel here is far more intelligent than we are. There are reports of them being around our nuclear plants. We are not smart enough to keep from destroying our planet (e.g. climate change deniers), so I am sure they are afraid we will destroy their habitat. We are already leaving behind space junk. It is not enough that we are polluting this planet, we want to pollute space and other planets.

We are not alone in the universe, and never were. Humans are a work in progress. Still evolving. As a whole, we know enough to get in trouble, but not enough to get out of trouble. Some recognize cause and effect. Some can't, don't or won't and bury their heads in the sand of lies and denial. Just because I love my fellow man, it doesn't blind me to our faults.
Earth is a tiny raft floating in the sea of space. As our population grows our individual space is diminished, our resources are thinned and damage to the raft increases, bringing us ever closer to dismantling or sinking the only place, currently, that we can inhabit and survive.

jimbomaybe 07-04-2024 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mraines (Post 2346914)
I don't know why anyone would presume that we are the only life form in this vast universe. Anyone who could travel here is far more intelligent than we are. There are reports of them being around our nuclear plants. We are not smart enough to keep from destroying our planet (e.g. climate change deniers), so I am sure they are afraid we will destroy their habitat. We are already leaving behind space junk. It is not enough that we are polluting this planet, we want to pollute space and other planets.

Your post assumes that ETs have been here, and have some concerns about us, given the literally incomprehensible size of the universe why would they possibly care? If "they" have been here why so shy about advertising their presence ? as to governmental conspiracy theories, again why?

fdpaq0580 07-04-2024 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbomaybe (Post 2346967)
Your post assumes that ETs have been here, and have some concerns about us, given the literally incomprehensible size of the universe why would they possibly care? If "they" have been here why so shy about advertising their presence ? as to governmental conspiracy theories, again why?

They are embarrassed by their teeny weenies. 🤫🤭🤭

Stu from NYC 07-04-2024 04:14 PM

Imagine if an alien came today and asked to be taken to our leader?

jimbomaybe 07-04-2024 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2347074)
They are embarrassed by their teeny weenies. 🤫🤭🤭

If that is the case , well ,so much for the advanced civilization argument

Taltarzac725 07-04-2024 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2347075)
Imagine if an alien came today and asked to be taken to our leader?

I would probably point at my dog as he makes me follow him around and clean up his poop and carry his water bottle.

fdpaq0580 07-04-2024 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2347075)
Imagine if an alien came today and asked to be taken to our leader?

My wife handles all inquiries.

Lottoguy 07-07-2024 11:23 AM

Perhaps the government thinks the disclosure of ET would harm our belief system just as Winston Churchill said in his private letter which is available online. Also the one thing scientists believe in is every living species needs water to survive. Looking at Earth from outer space would be like viewing an oasis in a desert to them.
Also after the year 1945 when we first used nuclear weapons maybe this was seen as a threat and we must be closely monitored. Kinda of like watch out "They found the matches!"

jimbomaybe 07-07-2024 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 2348022)
Perhaps the government thinks the disclosure of ET would harm our belief system just as Winston Churchill said in his private letter which is available online. Also the one thing scientists believe in is every living species needs water to survive. Looking at Earth from outer space would be like viewing an oasis in a desert to them.
Also after the year 1945 when we first used nuclear weapons maybe this was seen as a threat and we must be closely monitored. Kinda of like watch out "They found the matches!"

Given the the technology to be an interstellar civilization, would they need to travel here for basic materials ? That same technology would likewise make planet earth a non threat


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