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twinklesweep 01-08-2014 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by donb9006 (Post 808379)
.... There are Christians, they believe THEY are the ONLY way to heavenly bliss, everyone else is wrong and "will see" when judgement comes. There are Muslims, they believe THEY are the ONLY way to heavenly bliss, everyone else is wrong and "will see" when judgement comes. There are Jews, they believe THEY are the ONLY way to heavenly bliss, everyone else is wrong and "will see" when judgement comes. There are Hindi who believe THEY are the only way to nirvana. There are Buddhists who believe They have the only answers. Pagans have their thoughts. Wiccans, Spiritualists, Native Americans, even Atheists...ALL believe only they KNOW. The trouble is...only one is correct [emphasis mine]....

Has anyone considered the possibility, objectively speaking, that is, NOT from the point of view of any one particular group, that NONE is correct?...

SoccerCoach 01-09-2014 10:23 AM

The Undeniable Fact
 
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Originally Posted by onslowe (Post 807623)
Well said Gracie and Rubicon. And in the most civil manner possible, I do find humor in the assertion above that the Decalogue of Judaism and Christianity set up in public (Thou Shalt Not Kill, Thou Shalt Not Steal, etc) should be a "slap in the face" or a big "FU" to our oft persecuted little Satanists and other precious 'minorities.'

The Founders did not ever ever write a 'separation' of church and state into the Constitution. They said Congress could make no law 'establishing' a religion, like the Church of England! That's all. Our media experts have been trying to say that Christianity, and indeed Judaism is a monolithic 'religion' when such is absolutely laughable and reveals ignorance of terms. The founders meant specific religions, i.e. Anglicianism, Quakerism, Lutherans, etc. Not an all out prohibition against anything Christian! Please look at our history and not MSNBC. One letter, 13 years later, by Thomas Jefferson to a Baptist church in Danbury, contained the seed of this errant position not embraced by the Founders.

In 1947, Justices Black and Douglas, among some others, decided it was 'separation' and applied it to the states. Something not in the Constitution suddenly became a 'corner piece' to one segment of this society, and shoved down the throat of the, excuse the bad word, majority.

Now what if a little boy or girl sees the statue of Satan and get really spooked and scared and needs psychological help? Can the parents sue the State of Oklahoma? What if the statue of Satan is 'vandalized?' Is that a hate crime to our 'live and let live folks?

Funny, I've not heard of Moslem, Buddhist, or other faith communities complaining.

Sorry, the motive here is exactly what Gracie said.

It is great that you state a fact that cannot be denied. "The Founders did not ever ever write a 'separation' of church and state into Constitution." However, because of the "letter to Danbury", some people(quite a large group really) simply expound on a statement that doesn't exist. It is not my job to judge, however I do have the right to view situations without blinders.

JourneyOfLife 01-09-2014 12:59 PM

The Pew Research Center’s Religion & Public Life Project has a write up on the topic of RELIGIOUS DISPLAYS AND THE COURTS

Some information about the Pew Research Center’s Religion & Public Life Project


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