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rustyp 02-06-2017 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Bosoxfan (Post 1356796)
Haters will be Haters....Time to suck it up and give the Pats their props. No discussion The Greatest quarterback of all time took the greatest NFL franchise of all time to the Greatest comeback of all time in the Greatest Super Bowl of all time.

I do not hate NE. And they are a very good team but they lucked out last night. I much more enjoy games that the best team wins not the losing team hands over a victory. I also thought the refereeing was very good last night. So there I'm not crying foul. If the Pats would have dominated that game last night I would admit it - did not happen not from my viewpoint. Nothing here to suck up. However I understand your position BOSOXFAN. I going to have to give serious consideration to abandoning my Buffalo Bills.

Rapscallion St Croix 02-06-2017 11:52 AM

Here is my analysis of the game.
Coin toss...
REF: Tails. Atlanta, you win the coin toss. Would you like your defense to sit out the first half or the second?
Falcons: The second half.
REF: OK, New England, your defense will sit out the first half. Atlanta, your defense will sit out the second half. Good luck.

worcester 02-06-2017 12:11 PM

Went to Sleep
 
Wonder how many Villagers went to bed early and woke up astounded

daveczo 02-06-2017 05:44 PM

Bill, Brady and Pats, best ever, period.

John_W 02-06-2017 06:06 PM

It reminded me of Super Bowl 47 quite a lot. The Ravens are up 28-6 in the third quarter and the lights in the Super Dome go out for 30 minutes. The 49ers under Jim Harbaugh mount a big comeback, but the difference was the Ravens were able to hold on and win 34-31, the 49ers fell just short. It was the last Ravens game for Ray Lewis and Ed Reed.

Rustyp does have a point. If the Falcons had not taken those sacks and played for a field goal, with Matt Bryant a solid veteran, they could of gone up by 11 instead of the 8 point lead when Brady got the ball back. I feel bad for Arthur Blank the owner of the Falcons, he was on the sidelines with his wife all ready to get the throphy and the team fell apart. That's something those players and coaches will probably never live down.

When the Pats kicked the onside attempt, I had said to myself, I saw the special teams coach talking to Belichick just before that. I said, don't be surprised if they try and onside kick, they did and Atlanta wasn't ready, but they luckily had one player get the ball. However, they never could take advantage of that great field position, you have to give New England credit for that. Matt Ryan with a short field and they couldn't capitalize, that saved the Pats.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 02-06-2017 06:32 PM

Robert Kraft, Owner, GOAT
Bill Belichick, Head Coach, GOAT
Tom Brady, Quarterback, GOAT
Super Bowl LI, GOAT
In addition, The New England Patriots have played in nine Super Bowls which is the most of any team in the NFL.

I was at a Super Bowl last night party surrounded by Patriots fans. At half time everyone was moping around. One guys said. "That's it, we've lost." A lot of people were leaving.

I was reminded of the scene in the movie Apollo 13 when the NASA director says, "This could be the worst disaster NASA's ever experienced." and Gene Krantz says, "With all due respect, sir, I believe this is gonna be our finest hour."

I literally went around and said that every thing was OK and that this was going to be the greatest come back in Super Bowl history. I'm not sure I believed it 100% at the time, but I had a feeling and saying it made me feel better and a few more people began to believe. As they did, I began to believe a bit more.

Now had they lost, I would have been wrong, but what's the difference? Isn't it better to be sitting there waiting for the greatest comeback in Super Bowl history to happen or to sit through the second half defeated? A lot of people went home half way through the third quarter and they missed a great celebration.

One of the things that The Patriots do and all great athletes do is play the entire game. Play until the fat lady sings. You never give up and you always believe that it's going to get better. And you always believe that you still have a chance.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 02-06-2017 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1356742)
The Patriots may not have deserved to win vs.Seattle two years ago but no doubt about this game. That was masterful and amazing.


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How did they not deserve to win against Seattle? If not for one of the luckiest catches in the history of football by Jerome Kearse, Seattle wouldn't have been knocking at the door. That was the third fluke pass play that occurred against the Patriots in their six Super Bowls this century. They finally had one go their way in last night's game with the Edelman catch. But at least that was a great effort, not a lucky bounce like the Kearse catch.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 02-06-2017 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 1356782)
And they certainly did not win this game - the Falcon's lost it. The worst play I ever seen called. The Falcon's are up by eight and have a 37 yard field goal chance on first down no less. Run up the middle or at worse take a knee twice eat up the clock and make sure you don't get out of field goal range. If then the Falcon's would have missed and Brady comes back to tie with little time on the clock then I'll give it all you NE fans. But that's not what I seen. I seen NE luck out.

I agree that the play calling on that drive was terrible, but Herm Edwards defended it this morning on ESPN. He said that The Falcons have been aggressive like that all year and that's what got them to the Super Bowl. He had several reasons why it was right for them to call passes.And nothing guarantees that they make a 37 yard field goal. I disagree, but I'm no where as knowledgeable about football as a former NFL Player and head coach.

As far as I know, coaches are part of the team. The offensive co-ordinator who called those plays is just as much a part of the team as Matt Ryan and Julio Jones. Calling good plays and bad plays is part of football. A bad play call isn't much different than a poorly thrown ball or a blown coverage on defense. Nothing lucky. The Patriots have better coaches.

And by the way, they "lucked out" after coming back from a 28-3 deficit with only twenty three minutes of football left to play. They had a little thing called momentum going for them.

And what I "seen" was Commissioner Roger Goodell handing Robert Kraft the trophy. I didn't see him say that The Falcons were the winners because they made a bad play call.

rustyp 02-06-2017 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1357004)
I agree that the play calling on that drive was terrible, but Herm Edwards defended it this morning on ESPN. He said that The Falcons have been aggressive like that all year and that's what got them to the Super Bowl. He had several reasons why it was right for them to call passes.And nothing guarantees that they make a 37 yard field goal. I disagree, but I'm no where as knowledgeable about football as a former NFL Player and head coach.

As far as I know, coaches are part of the team. The offensive co-ordinator who called those plays is just as much a part of the team as Matt Ryan and Julio Jones. Calling good plays and bad plays is part of football. A bad play call isn't much different than a poorly thrown ball or a blown coverage on defense. Nothing lucky. The Patriots have better coaches.

And by the way, they "lucked out" after coming back from a 28-3 deficit with only twenty three minutes of football left to play. They had a little thing called momentum going for them.

And what I "seen" was Commissioner Roger Goodell handing Robert Kraft the trophy. I didn't see him say that The Falcons were the winners because they made a bad play call.

It's typical for a team with a large lead to back off and run the clock down. Protect against the big play and even give a score away hopefully just field goals not touchdowns i.e. protect the lead. Terrible is beyond my vocabulary for what the Falcon's called after being in field goal range. They could have run the clock down another minute and a half at least or have NE spend timeouts putting even more pressure on them if they missed the field goal. A missed field goal would have been no different situation than kicking the ball away but with a lot less time for NE to work with. My vote for the dumbest call of all superbowls.

rustyp 02-06-2017 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 1357013)
It's typical for a team with a large lead to back off and run the clock down. Protect against the big play and even give a score away hopefully just field goals not touchdowns i.e. protect the lead. Terrible is beyond my vocabulary for what the Falcon's called after being in field goal range. They could have run the clock down another minute and a half at least or have NE spend timeouts putting even more pressure on them if they missed the field goal. A missed field goal would have been no different situation than kicking the ball away but with a lot less time for NE to work with. My vote for the dumbest call of all superbowls.


And if the Falcon's would have missed that field goal and NE come back with little time left I would admit it was the greatest comeback ever in super bowl history. It was also a good comeback. Greatest ? Yes per statistics not strategy. If NE knew that was the end result they would have never tried on onside kick. That's a desperation shot. However it was the greatest gift in super bowl history. What do you think Roger Godall would say - lucky Pats ?

rustyp 02-06-2017 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 1357016)
And if the Falcon's would have missed that field goal and NE come back with little time left I would admit it was the greatest comeback ever in super bowl history. It was also a good comeback. Greatest ? Yes per statistics not strategy. If NE knew that was the end result they would have never tried on onside kick. That's a desperation shot. However it was the greatest gift in super bowl history. What do you think Roger Godall would say - lucky Pats ?


And in conclusion the Falcon's deserved to loose.

ColdNoMore 02-06-2017 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 1357016)
What do you think Roger Godall would say - lucky Pats?

Did anyone else notice that when Roger Goodell handed the Lombardi trophy to Robert Kraft...Goodell looked a little deflated?


:1rotfl:


:D

Barefoot 02-06-2017 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ureout (Post 1356681)
great game and great comeback by the Patriots...I just don't think the SUPER BOWL after 60 minutes of hard fought football should end with that OT rule ....the flip of a coin gving 1 team the chance to win it all on a 1st TD..... would have liked to see both teams given a chance to score

It all came down to a coin toss.
IMHO, the team that won the coin toss was destined to win the game.
And wasn't it a great game -- I'm so glad I didn't go to bed early!

Bosoxfan 02-06-2017 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 1356814)
I do not hate NE. And they are a very good team but they lucked out last night. I much more enjoy games that the best team wins not the losing team hands over a victory. I also thought the refereeing was very good last night. So there I'm not crying foul. If the Pats would have dominated that game last night I would admit it - did not happen not from my viewpoint. Nothing here to suck up. However I understand your position BOSOXFAN. I going to have to give serious consideration to abandoning my Buffalo Bills.

The Patriots dominated every stat..93 offensive plays to 46 for the Falcons...yards passing 466 to 284...time of possesion 40 plus minutes to 23 plus minutes...total yards546 to 344...first downs 37 to 17....So the Pats did dominate the game it just took them a while to get into the end zone but once they did the Falcons couldn't stop them.

Jazzcat 02-06-2017 09:13 PM

I couldn't be more proud to be a Patriots fan. Even when others counted them out, I knew that Brady could pull off the comeback, as he has done so many times before. He has, without a doubt, earned the title of the NFL's greatest quarterback!


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