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Looking for next wife 04-20-2021 06:26 PM

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Once we visited Heaven and Hell. They all had long chopsticks ( or forks ) that are too long to feed themselves.
In heaven, everyone fed complete strangers happily.
In hell, they are all suspicious of each other and try to intercept when someone try to feed someone else. All get hungry, angry and yes you are in HELL!

I am not sure the definition of freedom means what you said at the end.


Thank you for your reading and observation. What I meant, of course, was "sarcastic" for sure at the end; and the, evidently not so "obvious to everyone" sarcasm of the entire thing.

MDLNB 04-20-2021 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1932745)
The principle of social security and other modern government programs IS that we are ALL responsible for each other. We SHARE responsibility for roads, bridges, and national defense. It is just like one big giant TEAM. You get the benefits of that teamwork. The John Wayne-like frontier hero is long gone.


I am sorry that you believe that. But, everyone is entitled to believe what they must. Thank you for your opinion, even if it is NOT shared by other Americans.

Looking for next wife 04-20-2021 06:36 PM

I guess you can always tell the ones that did not make the football team.

coffeebean 04-20-2021 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by alehew (Post 1932528)
If you get the vaccine why do u still wear a mask. Fauci has flipped back and forth. People are dying from the vaccine. I personally don't care if you get it or not but its everyone's freedom to choose.

Which vaccine are people dying from? From where I sit, the J&J vaccine has had 7 woman develop blood clots with one woman dying. The vaccine distribution has been paused in the US because of this development.

The mRNA vaccines (Moderna and Pfizer) have not had any pauses since their roll out in our country and other countries. I would imagine that there would be pauses in their distribution if people were dying as you say they are. But that is just my opinion. I'm aware there have been deaths post vaccination but none of those deaths have been shown to be a direct result of the vaccines.

jimjamuser 04-20-2021 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1932701)
Let me explain all the things wrong with your post. First, historically, Covid viruses have mutated to the point they became less able or unable to transfer between humans, in 2 to 3 years. So although the the opposite is possible, history would indicate otherwise. Second, Dr Fauci has previously stated that we would achieve herd immunity if 70% of the population has been vaccinated...

The way I saw the news in print and on TV was that the British variant spread MORE easily than the original US variant and was also MORE deadly, And sure enough, it is the one causing the huge problem in Michigan. The South African variant is even more deadly than the British and spreads at least as fast as the British. I don't know what more I can tell you? Maybe be wary of your information source? My intent was to try and change the hearts and minds of SOME anti-vaxxers here in TV Land. It was worth a try!

Swoop 04-20-2021 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1932762)
The way I saw the news in print and on TV was that the British variant spread MORE easily than the original US variant and was also MORE deadly, And sure enough, it is the one causing the huge problem in Michigan. The South African variant is even more deadly than the British and spreads at least as fast as the British. I don't know what more I can tell you? Maybe be wary of your information source? My intent was to try and change the hearts and minds of SOME anti-vaxxers here in TV Land. It was worth a try!

MERS & SARS were both novel Covid viruses. SARS lasted two years, and the MERS outbreak lasted less than three years. No vaccine for either. Both mutated.

jimjamuser 04-20-2021 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Looking for next wife (Post 1932749)
Once we visited Heaven and Hell. They all had long chopsticks ( or forks ) that are too long to feed themselves.
In heaven, everyone fed complete strangers happily.
In hell, they are all suspicious of each other and try to intercept when someone try to feed someone else. All get hungry, angry and yes you are in HELL!

I am not sure the definition of freedom means what you said at the end.


Thank you for your reading and observation. What I meant, of course, was "sarcastic" for sure at the end; and the, evidently not so "obvious to everyone" sarcasm of the entire thing.

I recognized the sarcasm. It was well done and appropriate.

jimjamuser 04-20-2021 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1932751)
I am sorry that you believe that. But, everyone is entitled to believe what they must. Thank you for your opinion, even if it is NOT shared by other Americans.

OK. Thank you!

jimjamuser 04-20-2021 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1932756)
Which vaccine are people dying from? From where I sit, the J&J vaccine has had 7 woman develop blood clots with one woman dying. The vaccine distribution has been paused in the US because of this development.

The mRNA vaccines (Moderna and Pfizer) have not had any pauses since their roll out in our country and other countries. I would imagine that there would be pauses in their distribution if people were dying as you say they are. But that is just my opinion. I'm aware there have been deaths post vaccination but none of those deaths have been shown to be a direct result of the vaccines.

It is a risk vs rewards calculation. And the rewards greatly outweigh the risks.

jimjamuser 04-20-2021 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1932769)
MERS & SARS were both novel Covid viruses. SARS lasted two years, and the MERS outbreak lasted less than three years. No vaccine for either. Both mutated.

I don't see a direct extrapolation to CV-19? So far we are closing in on 600,000 US citizens being VERY DEAD! I just warned in post # 87 that if the anti-vaxxer's opinion became too widespread, the US could have a MILLION dead. We certainly don't want that. Do we?

asianthree 04-20-2021 07:48 PM

Really don’t worry about the percentage of vaccinated to non vaccinated. After all why worry about things you can not change. Life did not change for us in 2020, saw family, grandkids, ate out when available.
Tomorrow Could slip on a ice cube the dog was playing with, or have a cerebral hemorrhage, or life could come to a halt.
Live for today, for tomorrow may not come

Bucco 04-20-2021 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1932778)
I don't see a direct extrapolation to CV-19? So far we are closing in on 600,000 US citizens being VERY DEAD! I just warned in post # 87 that if the anti-vaxxer's opinion became too widespread, the US could have a MILLION dead. We certainly don't want that. Do we?

I know nothing about medicine.

But, I am shocked by the attitude concerning over 1/2 million Americans dying because of this virus. 1/2 million...that is a big number that should getba lot of attention.

Add to that, our American attitude toward our fellow Americans with vaccine, masks, etc. The entire world, not just us Americans have suffered, physically, mentally and economically so frustration is understandable, but the "every man for himself" attitude wears thin for me.

J1ceasar 04-21-2021 05:37 AM

Another person who does not understand statistics. Half the population is overweight or has diabetes or heart disease. There's a TV show with a detective asks the doctor. What did he die of, and the doctor says his heart stopped. The detective says but when everyone dies their heart has stopped so it's 100% and their heart is stopped. That's kind of like your statistic of 87%. When people get heart attacks, the first thing doctors look at is their teeth. Because if you don't take care of your teeth you haven't taken care of the rest of you. So if you're in that 13%. That's still died without being overweight or with diabetes or a heart attack, you may have less of a chance but that's still 13% of a half a million people that have died so do you want to be 65,000 and one? And do you realize if you get sick I want you can give it to your partner before you know you have it or your neighbors or your friends or your family, I would much rather have a statistical chance of 5% than a statistical chance of 13%, next time you get in your car think about driving with only three wheels that's pretty much what you're saying it's safe because I have at least three wheels on the ground and I can keep the one in the trunk in the trunk, so get a shot so you protect me and my wife thank you and I really don't understand why you're not getting a shot are you afraid of needles

golfing eagles 04-21-2021 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 1932168)
is that I sneeze and cough into my arm...take mine and my wife's temp every day and I don't go into crowded areas like the town squares or stores. I wash my hands frequently and carry hand sanitizer(75% alcohol)which I use after coughing, sneezing and handling objects others might have touched.

Nope...haven't got the vaccine yet(I'm 67...wife is 65). We don't plan to and I do not consider our decision to be NOT careful thinking or ourselves and others. Since you can still infect others if vaccinated I don't see the need for your comment. Especially since I view your posts as the most common sense and caring of all posters.

I'm confused. You take your temp every day (which is worthless), you "sanitize" objects that others may have touched (also worthless), but you won't get a safe and highly effective vaccine because you you bought into the fallacy that you can still infect others when the CDC states that only 0.008% of vaccinated individuals can get COVID. You might want to rethink your "logic"

graciegirl 04-21-2021 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by swooner (Post 1932862)
My guess is Democrats 97% and Republicans 45% Kinda like the national average.

The Demographics of Sumter County would not support your numbers. Allow me to show you a map of Florida with the darker colors showing at least 57% vaccinations. Sumter county clearly stands out. The registered voters too are also public information. Sumter county shows a majority of Republican voters.

Many of us followed the Facebook group that discussed and shared information on the available vaccinations in The Villages daily. There was no political issue. I think your guess is wrong and your information inaccurate.

This map from the New York Times updated today, clearly shows Sumter county as the darkest color in Florida. THE only county with the darkest color.

Covid-19 Vaccine Rollout: County and State Tracker - The New York Times


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