Of course all that was explained, in detail when the issue first came up a bunch of years ago. But some people don't WANT it to mean that. They WANT it to mean what they've assigned it to mean, so that they can raise their fists in righteous indignation about "those people."

Meanwhile, back on topic:

I see posters here being all fist-raisey and righteously indignant, going on the hyperbolic defense of "oh sure, let's just have a cop on every corner, put them in your house to make sure you're not doing anything wrong, turn this into a nanny state and big brother" yada yada yada.

There's a difference between "the police in this area are not visible enough, another dozen shifts added to the tri-county area would be helpful" and "put a nanny-cam in your bathroom."

Maybe if we could accept those differences and approach the problem pragmatically instead of emotionally, this community (in general) could come up with solutions.

I’m a grocery delivery driver & our trucks can’t exceed 65 mph. Big brother is on the windshield, points are given for the following (63 =fired)

1) Following Distance
(Need a semi length between vehicles on highway)
2) Distracted Driving (looking anywhere else than driving, no eating, no drinking, cell=fired)
3) Cornering-turning corner using 1 hand
Just suppose consumer insurance required this or pay 4x premium
I just let the Indy 500 drivers fly past me so I can go on with my business…

FINALLY, something that makes sense...

I see people OF ALL AGES walking at night in dark clothing with ZERO reflector tape, reflector sneakers, or a reflective vest...

How much more taxes are you willing to pay for more PD?
More PD on the roads wont stop bad drivers.

I’ve seen plenty in TV and outside. Just bc you haven’t doesn’t mean they’re not working.

I wear a reflector vest and a helmet that has reflection stripes on it, when I ride my bicycle. I also just recently added some blinking lights to the front and back. I'm not sure it's the best idea because it could distract a driver who ends up not noticing something else they should be paying attention to. But I'll give it a try and see how it goes. The reflector vest is something I've been using down here almost since I moved in.

Up north, I usually didn't even wear a helmet. We didn't have many bicycle accidents there though, and if I wanted to go down the main road (Route 5), I'd just ride through strip-mall parking lots instead of on the road itself. Having a hybrid bicycle is great - shock absorbers on front and back fork means I can ride on the grass and down curbs without breaking my pelvis.

I hardly ever drink. Sometime when just out of high school to fit in. 45 years hardly even had drop in till Covid. Couple shots night to help me sleep. Covid has passed and so has my teetotaling. Back to my boring self. I agree LEOs has to put up with drunks and druggies everyday not to mention harden criminals. A thankless job. Two jobs I was never interested in law enforcement and nursing homes. Two jobs of unrecognized hero’s if they don’t get the attitude or mean?

When I go up I75 at 75 MPH i getting ran over sometimes even in far right lane. I agree going through Georgia I make sure I don’t go over 75 and slow get over when vehicles flashers are on shoulder.

And Florida has one of the highest(if not the highest) % of elderly people, there are going to be more deaths involved in motor vehicle accidents due to their underlying physical/old age problems

Every car has built-in GPS so you don’t need a cellphone.

They would have to pull over and put the car in PARK, and then the cell phone works. Easy peasy.

Every car? Not hardly...

It’s human nature and the world we live in.. Most of us want better law enforcement. I’ve lived in the place where law enforcement was great all the time and was over staffed; it was a US military installation. The real problems are the understaffing in the public sector. It fuels the pace police must operate at and response quality does suffer.

That in turn fuels the sceptic views of many citizens when they encounter law enforcement.

In all my years of living and driving in Florida I never have seen a pedestrian crossing I-75, 95, 91(the toll road), 44, 27/441, 301, 466, 466A, Morse, Buena Vista, etc, etc. where do I have to drive to see pedestrians with a death wish?

Aside from the limited access highways, most or all of those roads have marked crosswalks for pedestrians. That is where you would drive to if you wanted to see a pedestrian cross one of those roads.

I may cross 466A at Culver's one of these days. Crossing 44 at either 301 or Publix is not out of the questions either.

What button? What communication system? I have neither of these things on my car.

I can't be sure but I seem to recall that driving 60 in a posted 25mph zone, cutting off traffic to take a left from the right lane of a 4-lane road, running a stop-light, hitting a bicyclist with your fender, and weaving in and out of your lane because you're drunk - are all crimes. That would make the people performing these behaviors - criminals.

Please do correct me if I'm mistaken.

Pedestrians cross 27/441 pretty often. There are even "walk" signal poles just for the purpose.

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This area seems to have quite the problem with child porn, drugs, assaults, and theft. I'm very much okay with the police giving those issues priority.

pay enough taxes anyway, giving more money never hardly ever solves problem. If so USA would have smartest public school students in world.

My family were police in Baltimore County there was Traffic division routine patrol in every community k-9 for searches. Tactical for hostage situations. And all of them worked together on robberies assaults murders rape manslaughter arson burglaries. HERE,POLICE DON’t EVEN PATROL neighborhoods. Nor write a report when there’s Community B&E’’S (BREAK-INS)

Likewise.

Okay, most every car.

EVERYBODY'S a good boy or girl in the world you describe. Big Brother makes sure of it.

You are technically and semantically correct. Now, would you like to discuss how THE LAW classifies the severity of "crimes", or does anyone think murder is the same as driving a golf cart at 20.1 mph??? You cannot just lump all "crimes" together and label the perpetrators as "criminals" with all the connotations that entails.

Alternatively, just taking driving and parking alone, 99% of Villagers are "criminals".

It's hardly "yada, yada, yada". It isn't that big a step from one to the other. I suggest one reads "1984" and "The Handmaid's Tale"

Everybody except Big Brother. He and his pals can do as they please. They have immunity.

But seriously, wouldn't it be nicer if everyone got along together and treated all others with kindness and respect. Courtesy was automatic. People didn't take advantage of one another. Really lived their lives loving their fellow man. Not just pretending to while sitting in church for an hour or so, but 24/7/365. Sounds almost like Heaven.
But, we are, after all, merely clever apes with egos. Self entitled and self important until we die. And then??? 🙃🤔😶

Yes, you can.
Anyone who commits a crime is a criminal.
Not all crimes are equal in severity.
Punishment varies by severity of the crime.
Re-offenders are often given harsher punishments.
As driving a golf cart 20.1mph is illegal, one is a criminal. When one catches one going 19.9 mph, the criminal has no right to expect, demand, request special consideration of any kind from law abiding individuals. Criminals deserve only disdain for their failure to be law abiding citizens.
Simple.

Wouldn't all that be nice. And everybody has the same assets, lives in identical housing, drives the same (electric and AI driven) car, has 2.2 children, follows the same religion and loves their neighbor.

Of course, one of Blouir's original 5 criteria for schizophrenia is poor reality testing:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

It really doesn't have "quite the problem." You just need to stop reading the online rag that only posts about the worst of society, and writes those "reports" with an anti-Villages slant.

In a week, there might be 10 of those crimes COMBINED committed within three counties. A lot of these crimes are even combination - two for one crimes. People shoplifting who are also in possession of illegal drugs. That seems to be the most common situation. Most of the assaults I've seen over "there" in the past month have involved seniors living in the same house having a fight with each other. There are enough OTHER things for police to do, that they don't all have to focus on those 10 crimes that week.

Murder isn't happening here in this community every day. Speeders are. It's MUCH more likely (and profitable to the state) that a police officer would catch someone in the act of a traffic violation, than it is that they'd catch someone committing a murderer - in any given week. They don't have jurisdiction on the MMPs but they do on the roads that run throughout The Villages. And it's not just speeding golf carts. It's cars that run stop signs, not even with the pretense of slowing down. It's pedestrians that walk right into the street without looking both ways FIRST and then getting angry when a car almost runs them over because the car was ALREADY there in motion.

It's people on e-bikes that ride AGAINST traffic at speeds up to and sometimes even exceeding 30mph.

It's golf cart drivers who are on their phone on Del Mar, with their 10-year-old grandkid on their lap in the driver's seat, not paying any attention to the fact that Junior is about to steer over the curb and flip the whole cart over (I witnessed that - the woman in the passenger seat had to yell at them both to avoid what might've resulted in the death of their grandchild).

Golf cart drivers going over 19.8mph is not the problem. The sense of entitlement among people who do it - the attitude that the rules apply to thee, not me, is the problem. And as long as the rules are not enforced, it'll just get worse.

Blouir? Thinks he is so smart!
Anyway, I never claimed to be perfect. Just another nutty shaved ape that has a propensity for pulling chains from time to time.
And I don't believe we have to be clones in order to respect and appreciate our differences. For example, I'm having a couple of chili dogs and a beer for lunch. I don't know what you are having, but I hope you enjoy it, even if it's liver and onions with lima beans

"Remember, the left lane is for crime."
-Phil Labonte

Simple nonsense. If you get a speeding ticket for going 5mph over the limit, do you have a criminal record? Requiring disclosure on a job application*?

*Yes, I am aware in many jurisdictions it is illegal to ask about prior criminality. Example to make a point.

Jerks are going to be rude. That's what makes them jerks. You can be going 20.1 and be respectful or going 15 and be dangerous and rude.

Instead of simply repeating old criticisms, you might want to take a look at that online rag every once in a while. Their reporting is based on police reports which largely involve non-Villagers, comments and actions from the various CDD meetings (both positive and negative), and POA information (rarely positive). The only anti-Villager slant I see comes from the POA contributions and the letters to the editor which are also largely Villagers.

If we Villagers didn’t complain so much the all that online rag would have to report is the police activity.

If the police activity being reported is dealing with the worst of society, are those the same officers you would like to refocus on more important matters such as those traveling 60mph in a 25mph zone? (BTW: where is this 25mph zone? I can’t think of any but I would like to see the 60mph traffic there).

I’ll repeat that I’m okay with the police focusing on what they currently are.

You know what would make a great project: Do 24/7 surveillance on the "holier than thou every traffic violation is a criminal offense" crowd and see how often THEY go 20.1 or faster in a golf cart, go 30.1 or faster in a 30 zone, don't come to a complete and total stop at a stop sign, fail to cross at a crosswalk or intersection or fail to yield the right of way when required to BY THE LAW THAT WOULD THEN LABEL THEM CRIMINALS

Other than the 15mph signs between the softball field and Wales Place, the Historic Section's posted speed limit is 25mph.

If there are 25 police officers on duty within the three-county area between 8am and 4pm on a random Tuesday, and only 4 "really bad crimes" being committed on that day in that 3-county area, then it's safe to assume that at least 5 of those police officers could be spending their time pulling people over for speeding and other traffic violations. The other 20 can handle those 4 "really bad crimes" just fine.

Or alternatively, the presence of those "extra" 5 officers might be preventing "really bad crimes" rather than looking for minor traffic violations

I agree with you. Most of the “it’s the rule” people I have known will break the rules themselves when they see it to be in their interest and don’t like anyone pointing it out. They try to be sneaky about it and will not admit they broke one of the rules. We all know people like that.

Yes. Aren't people wonderful?

Well, maybe we are, sometimes.