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fdpaq0580 12-26-2024 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bopat (Post 2396385)
I blame teachers and parents. Don't need law enforcement if everybody's doing the right things.

Seems to make sense. Apparently there is a flaw somewhere in our makeup, and we can be bad, oh so bad.
Also, making parent/family responsible for raising good members of society makes them accountable for bad actions of their kids? So, families responsible for raising "bad actor" would not be able to sue for anything that happens to "bad actor" during interaction with authority. In addition, they could be held accountable for failure to train and teach proper behavior.
This could get really interesting ( think " crazy").

fdpaq0580 12-26-2024 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bopat (Post 2396385)
I blame teachers and parents. Don't need law enforcement if everybody's doing the right things.

Oh, and don't let clergy off the hook, either. Apparently they are not getting the message through to their congregations. See folks straight out of church acting pushy, entitled, angry, running lights, speeding, etc.

Pugchief 12-26-2024 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2396352)
Villages Wildwood residents from CDD’s 9,10,12,13 and 15 pay for the county sheriff and the local Wildwood PD. They have the Wildwood police department respond to their calls. However, their sheriff’s department responds to calls outside their very own

I can't speak for CDDs 12, 13 and 15, but CDDs 9 & 10 don't have any of their boundaries within the Wildwood city limits. If you have a map showing otherwise, please share it.

bopat 12-26-2024 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2396402)
Oh, and don't let clergy off the hook, either. Apparently they are not getting the message through to their congregations. See folks straight out of church acting pushy, entitled, angry, running lights, speeding, etc.

Can say politicians too, they feed off that stuff. But the roots are with parents and teachers.

ElDiabloJoe 12-26-2024 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2396375)
...I’m for cutting the sheriff’s department personnel back! Let’s get it done. Taxes are already way to high in Sumter county.

Huh. So, you're a Defund The Police guy. Noted.
Oh, by the way, it's TOO, not TO.

Normal 12-26-2024 04:12 PM

Incorrest
 
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Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe (Post 2396429)
Huh. So, you're a Defund The Police guy. Noted.
Oh, by the way, it's TOO, not TO.

No, I’m not for defunding my police. The county unincorporated need to pay for their own police. Maybe a surcharge on taxes for the group of over 100,000 in population would pay for whatever extra police they want. Wildwood has enough police and our taxes are already 1,000 dollars above the rest of unincorporated Sumter.

Bill14564 12-26-2024 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2396437)
No, I’m not for defunding my police. The county unincorporated need to pay for their own police. Maybe a surcharge on taxes for the group of over 100,000 in population would pay for whatever extra police they want. Wildwood has enough police and our taxes are already 1,000 dollars above the rest of unincorporated Sumter.

??? Do you think I do not pay the same Sumter County taxes that fund the Sheriff that you do? We don’t get (or desire) extra police. The extra police presence is in the incorporated areas and funded by extra taxes paid by those living in the incorporated areas. Why is that difficult to understand?

dewilson58 12-26-2024 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bopat (Post 2396385)
I blame teachers and parents. Don't need law enforcement if everybody's doing the right things.

This ain't going to happen tomorrow.

Who do we blame for Adam & Eve not doing the right thing???

Normal 12-26-2024 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2396439)
??? Do you think I do not pay the same Sumter County taxes that fund the Sheriff that you do? We don’t get (or desire) extra police. The extra police presence is in the incorporated areas and funded by extra taxes paid by those living in the incorporated areas. Why is that difficult to understand?

Your logic is faulty. Do you think the 100,000 plus unincorporated have the same amount of responses by the sheriff’s department as they do in the Wildwood area? I assure the number of responses in Wildwood by the sheriff’s department is significantly smaller because of Wildwood PD augmentation. In fact, I would go a step further and say the responses to Wildwood by the very same Sumter sheriff are near zero!

They mostly support responses to the other 87% of the county. It wouldn’t be unfair at all to ask those unincorporated to pay their fair share for the manpower required for law enforcement….or perhaps reduce the county taxes of Wildwood residents.

Bill14564 12-26-2024 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2396448)
Your logic is faulty. Do you think the 100,000 plus unincorporated have the same amount of responses by the sheriff’s department as they do in the Wildwood area? I assure the number of responses in Wildwood by the sheriff’s department is significantly smaller because of Wildwood PD augmentation. In fact, I would go a step further and say the responses to Wildwood by the very same Sumter sheriff are near zero!

I think the 100,000 plus unincorporated have the same access to the Sheriff that those in the Wildwood area have, no more and no less. Reiterating from my last post, those in the Wildwood area have PD augmentation paid for by their Wildwood taxes.

And I would reply that I very much doubt you are correct but I would be glad to look at any actual data supporting your assertion.

If you feel strongly that you are being underserved by the Sheriff then you should talk to the Sheriff or the Sumter County Commissioners. If you feel the Wildwood police are unnecessary then you could talk to the Wildwood police or to the Wildwood supervisors.

bopat 12-26-2024 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2396445)
This ain't going to happen tomorrow.

Who do we blame for Adam & Eve not doing the right thing???

I'd keep reading the story, it's pretty interesting. And relevant, even today.

fdpaq0580 12-26-2024 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2396445)
This ain't going to happen tomorrow.

Who do we blame for Adam & Eve not doing the right thing???

Excellent question!
Perfect? If I'm not perfect, don't blame me. I was made this way!

fdpaq0580 12-26-2024 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bopat (Post 2396453)
I'd keep reading the story, it's pretty interesting. And relevant, even today.

Very interesting, IMHO. As to relevant, about as relevant as Mary Shelley's Frankenstein., but with lots of intergenerational twists and turns and rule changes.


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