Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 956574)

Bull. It's not about us who don't have to fly.

Our young military men and women have to fly on commercial flights when going to and from furlough.

All the pilots, flight engineers, flight attendants, baggage handlers, gate workers, etc. have to be on board the planes and in their ground positions.

The airport janitorial staff have to handle and breathe near soiled Kleenex, paper towels, soiled menstrual pads, etc., and so do the garbage collectors and haulers.

The TSA have to touch and breathe next to sweaty people and their belongings just gripped by people wiping their runny noses with their hands or who are emptying their pockets of their soiled handkerchiefs or tissues.

The nurses, technicians, doctors, firemen, and paramedics have to be on duty on the front line where infected people come first when they're vomiting, have diahrrea, etc.

The hospital housekeeping and laundry staff have to be in place to change soiled bed linens, haul the bins to the laundry, empty the bins and do the laundry.

Cafeteria workers have to handle napkins people spit into and blow their noses on.

Etc etc etc etc etc

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 956497)

The simple answer is that those charged with containing this deadliest of deadly diseases have both past and present failed to show they are competent and hence the public at large just does not trust them.

"In 1948 the United Nations chartered the World Health Organization (WHO) granting it authority for directing internal health work.

Over 30 years it has shown a deteoriation for dealing with epidemics and on 4 occasions failed to deal effectively with major outbreaks.

In 1980 WHO underestimated the AIDS/HIV outbreak which prompted the UN in 1994 to create Joint UN Program on AIDS/HIV (Unaids)

In 2009 WHO was slow to respond to the H1N1 flu pandemic. an investigative panel in 2011 slammed WHO for lack of transparency, poor external communication, management conflicts and needlessly complex.

In 2010 WHO failures in dealing with Haiti's cholera out break that spread so fast because of bureaucratic bungling it reached Dominican Republic, Cuba and Mexico.

WHO today is dealing with Ebola which has spread to seven countries, a disease which was discovered in 1972 and where Dr. Piot founder of Unaid blames WHO's regional office in Africa calling it incompetent............WSJ 10/22/14"

As a side bar Ebola Czar Klain was the PR guy who instructed VP Joe Biden during the H1N1 scare to strongly emphasis to the public not to travel which about shut the entire world down and that the White House had to walk back.

If you note much of the news about Ebola is what the experts are doing or not doing and not the disease itself.

I opine other can decide

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 956574)

Bull. It's not about us who don't have to fly.

Our young military men and women have to fly on commercial flights when going to and from furlough.

All the pilots, flight engineers, flight attendants, baggage handlers, gate workers, etc. have to be on board the planes and in their ground positions.

The airport janitorial staff have to handle and breathe near soiled Kleenex, paper towels, soiled menstrual pads, etc., and so do the garbage collectors and haulers.

The TSA have to touch and breathe next to sweaty people and their belongings just gripped by people wiping their runny noses with their hands or who are emptying their pockets of their soiled handkerchiefs or tissues.

The nurses, technicians, doctors, firemen, and paramedics have to be on duty on the front line where infected people come first when they're vomiting, have diahrrea, etc.

The hospital housekeeping and laundry staff have to be in place to change soiled bed linens, haul the bins to the laundry, empty the bins and do the laundry.

Cafeteria workers have to handle and dispose of napkins people spit into and blow their noses on, and leave on the tray or cafeteria table!

And then possibly exposed, they go home to their families and nurses like the ones from Cleveland Clinic go back to work with their already sick patients who often are immune compromised.

Etc etc etc etc etc

Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 956536)

The irony of this whole Ebola situation is that the same people that want government out of their business are the ones that are now asking every government agency known to man to now come in and rescue them. I've said this before and I'll say it again. Take responsibility for yourself.
A little common sense can go a long way.

Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 956624)

The flaw in your argument is people are not looking to be rescued - they are looking to be protected - which is the primary purpose of government.

Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 956624)

The flaw in your argument is people are not looking to be rescued - they are looking to be protected - which is the primary purpose of government.

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 956955)

No, we want government out of deciding what maximum size the gas-station soda cups have to be, like we're too stupid to figure out we could buy two 16-ounce bottles when the 32-ounce cup has been made illegal--as the new ebola czar was involved in.

And we want government out of banning the use of salt by restaurant chefs/cooks in New York, when any half-decent cook knows that adding a teaspoon or less of salt to a big kettle of boiled potatoes or pasta will flavor it enough that most will not want salt shakers on the table.

And we expect the CDC, Homeland Security, State Department, Justice Dept., Secret Service and the presidency to protect us from foreign and domestic enemies like ISIS--who would drool over the scenes of sending an Ebola-infected suicide bomber into the crowds at the Macys Parade or another marathon, to blast his infected blood/guts all over hundreds of victims crawling on the ground and gasping for breath and looking for their childrens' legs.

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 956955)

No, we want government out of deciding what maximum size the gas-station soda cups have to be, like we're too stupid to figure out we could buy two 16-ounce bottles when the 32-ounce cup has been made illegal--as the new ebola czar was involved in.

And we want government out of banning the use of salt by restaurant chefs/cooks in New York, when any half-decent cook knows that adding a teaspoon or less of salt to a big kettle of boiled potatoes or pasta will flavor it enough that most will not want salt shakers on the table.

And we expect the CDC, Homeland Security, State Department, Justice Dept., Secret Service and the presidency to protect us from foreign and domestic enemies like ISIS--who would drool over the scenes of sending an Ebola-infected suicide bomber into the crowds at the Macys Parade or another marathon, to blast his infected blood/guts all over hundreds of victims crawling on the ground and gasping for breath and looking for their childrens' legs.

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 956955)

No, we want government out of deciding what maximum size the gas-station soda cups have to be, like we're too stupid to figure out we could buy two 16-ounce bottles when the 32-ounce cup has been made illegal--as the new ebola czar was involved in.

And we want government out of banning the use of salt by restaurant chefs/cooks in New York, when any half-decent cook knows that adding a teaspoon or less of salt to a big kettle of boiled potatoes or pasta will flavor it enough that most will not want salt shakers on the table.

And we expect the CDC, Homeland Security, State Department, Justice Dept., Secret Service and the presidency to protect us from foreign and domestic enemies like ISIS--who would drool over the scenes of sending an Ebola-infected suicide bomber into the crowds at the Macys Parade or another marathon, to blast his infected blood/guts all over hundreds of victims crawling on the ground and gasping for breath and looking for their childrens' legs.

Originally Posted by JB in TV (Post 957056)

Speaking of Ebola news, I just read that a doctor who recently returned from West Africa is being tested for possible Ebola in NYC. :(

Doctor who treated Ebola patients rushed to NYC hospital | New York Post

Doctor Recently Back From Africa Being Evaluated for Ebola at Bellevue | NBC New York

Originally Posted by dplars (Post 957088)

Ask yourself this.....are you ore likely to be infected or beheaded than you were six years ago?