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golfing eagles 04-20-2020 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Maryland04 (Post 1749626)
you have a door shut it and stay home

And then in 6 weeks poke your head out of your burrow and check if you see your shadow......

dewilson58 04-20-2020 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by arlenandsusan (Post 1749623)
I don't wear a mask at all. No, it's not because I disregard others. It's because I fail to see the real need. The virus is spread by touching contaminated surfaces and then your eyes, mouth or nose. I am careful about that. Or it is spread by coughing on someone or very close, in your face contact. I believe that distancing beyond that is plenty. The whole mask thing seems like overkill to me. I realize that there are people who feel safer that way or more responsible, but I think it is their personal choice more than of any real need. I especially think people wearing masks in their cars or outside walking is totally unnecessary. To me it is my own common sense choice. I believe that realistic information is the best guideline. I realize there are lots of different opinions out there, but this is mine.


Others have made a decision to be extremely cautious, do everything to minimize the spread, help out healthcare network and help others. Unfortunately, you have not. Hope you are not a Villager. Nice first post under this name.

davem4616 04-20-2020 05:57 AM

my wife and I wear a neckerchief covering our nose/mouth when we are going to be inside/within 6 feet of others (drug store, Publix)
….other than that we're still waiting for a shipment of 10 masks to arrive from Amazon

Nucky 04-20-2020 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1749589)
Their return policies are pretty clear. If it isn't sold by AND shipped by Amazon, then it's considered a 3rd party sale and returns are at the discretion of the seller, not Amazon. If the seller doesn't accept returns, then there's no returns.

Amazon, in this case, is the middle-man. They take your money on behalf of the seller. They collect a fee from the sale because it was sold through their company, but they aren't the ones selling the product.

Just like buying a third-party product from walmart.com. If they aren't the actual seller, they're not responsible for refunding you if it's not a good sale. The seller is responsible for it - and only if they offer refunds and returns in their policy.

If the picture and description of the item you were purchasing was a Bowling Ball and you were supposed to get 4 Bowling Balls and you happily opened your envelope and found they shipped you one 8 1/2 X 11 piece of paper do you think that that may change your outlook? Deception at it's best and I will not stand for it.

In the past we have had several items that were previously owned and certainly not packaged properly or without the owners manual or scratched and they were all third party sellers. Amazon stood behind each one of those purchase and refunded the money immediately. They also supplied a prepaid U.P.S. return sheet that I print and put a Barcode inside the box and the Mailing Label on the box and drop it off and before I get home the refund is done.

retiredguy123 04-20-2020 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1749587)
Well I wish it was that way as I am accustomed to exactly what you typed. In this case the label that you print out has the return address and I get to pay the postage and they claim that the contents have been switched as I found out after I got Jacked Up. Trust me it's a total set up.

This is what Amazon classifies as a third party seller. B.S. I do business and pay my bill to Amazon and they will return the chump change #39.95 if its the last thing I do!

I have come to find out that this is a common practice with this company. They have hammered plenty of others before me. The picture and description of the item is perfect for N95 masks. Not a piece of paper with two elastic bands on them.

I have made Amazon purchases from third party sellers, but Amazon has always accepted the credit card on my Amazon account for payment. I have not returned any third party purchases, but, if I did not receive what I ordered, I would dispute the credit card charge with my bank (within 60 days). You should not even need to return the item. I cannot find anything on the Amazon website that would alter the Federal credit card protection rules, even for third party seller purchases. Good luck.

La lamy 04-20-2020 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1749316)
That's nice. But you don't need to wear a mask all the time. Just when you can't reasonably guarantee 6 foot separation. So, grocery stores, post office, inside gas station, yes. Walking alone outside or riding in your cart or a bicycle, no. I saw a guy inside his car with the windows up driving alone with a mask---give me a break.

I originally felt that way when I saw someone with a mask inside their car, but then I figured I didn't know the whole story. He may have just picked up his car from the garage and didn't fully trust the disinfection process?...

golfing eagles 04-20-2020 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by La lamy (Post 1749704)
I originally felt that way when I saw someone with a mask inside their car, but then I figured I didn't know the whole story. He may have just picked up his car from the garage and didn't fully trust the disinfection process?...

True, but unless it's an N-95 mask, he is not protecting himself much at all

NotGolfer 04-20-2020 06:52 AM

I know of several people who are making masks. The Gilded Matilda in Wildwood (you have to call though as they're closed) is selling them. Google for the phone #. Last evening I googled face masks and came up with several sites where they may be purchased. As for the OP who used Amazon...I always check out the seller on sites as well as comments of other purchasers. IF the "addresse/name" seems funky in some way---I'd never order. I did see some that interested me and once I clicked on---delivery was until late May and some in late June. Now why would one try to order those when we need them now?? There are tutorials on Youtube where you can even make some that aren't sewed. Saw a fun one on Facebook just cutting a sock.

On another note...we recently ordered an item from Amazon with tracking. Got the notification that our item had been delivered. It never was and it didn't show up from a neighbor being mis-delivered. So we contacted the seller (3rd party) to tell them we'd not gotten our item. We were refunded our money! NOT sure if it was related or not (maybe was, maybe wasn't) but my CC was compromised around this time. Contacted the CC company and got a new card. So be careful when, even ordering from Amazon. I do a lot of online shopping but this was a first.

Travelhunter 04-20-2020 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1749316)
That's nice. But you don't need to wear a mask all the time. Just when you can't reasonably guarantee 6 foot separation. So, grocery stores, post office, inside gas station, yes. Walking alone outside or riding in your cart or a bicycle, no. I saw a guy inside his car with the windows up driving alone with a mask---give me a break.

Where a mask outside
Others may not be respectful of social distancing and will come to close for comfort

Nucky 04-20-2020 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1749672)
I have made Amazon purchases from third party sellers, but Amazon has always accepted the credit card on my Amazon account for payment. I have not returned any third party purchases, but, if I did not receive what I ordered, I would dispute the credit card charge with my bank (within 60 days). You should not even need to return the item. I cannot find anything on the Amazon website that would alter the Federal credit card protection rules, even for third party seller purchases. Good luck.

EXACTLY! Our orders are charged directly to the Amazon Credit Card attached to our account. I'm not shipping this back, not a chance. I'll get the credit thru the Credit Card Company. In the end I will prevail. Amazon should be ashamed of themselves. They have slipped in resent years. I prefer to use local merchants but under the circumstances and because of the item I ordered they were the best option. And all to do a favor. Go figure.

kendi 04-20-2020 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sdeikenberry (Post 1749066)
Wearing any type of mask when outside or inside and around people is as much for the protection of others as much as for the person wearing it. Unless people wear a mask that filters out 0.125 micron size particles, it won't completely protect anyone from inhaling or exhaling COVID19. However, any mask certainly helps diminish the spread. So my question to all of you who choose to not wear a mask when around others is why? I do not mean this to be sarcastic, I'm looking for honest information.

Mask will not protect the person wearing it since the virus will enter the eyes as well. You would need to add goggles or some other type of eye protection.

Daxdog 04-20-2020 07:14 AM

N95
 
If you have an opened N 95 mask you should be ashamed, you should take to your, or the nearest Doctor and donate it!

golfing eagles 04-20-2020 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Travelhunter (Post 1749725)
Where a mask outside
Others may not be respectful of social distancing and will come to close for comfort

And you're not capable of staying 6 feet away, OUTSIDE?????? Wearing a mask in your cart????Wearing a mask when driving alone in your car???? Get real people. This is serious, but not the end of the world.

142,735 people have died from this worldwide since the first case Nov 17. 153,400 people die worldwide EVERY DAY from other causes, or 23,777,000 since Nov 17.
Again, NOT THE END OF THE WORLD

PS that's wear, not where

Fisherman 04-20-2020 07:24 AM

Exact same thing happened to me. The mask was smashed and when I put the manufacturers numbers in to the Internet, it was nothing more than a contractors dusk mask although advertised on Amazon as a true N95 that protected against viruses and influenza. Amazon not taking phone calls. Will keep, better than nothing, but sure makes buyers be ware.

Singerlady 04-20-2020 07:59 AM

Google how to make a mask without sewing. Many easy ideas. No excuse NOT to have a mask!


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