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golfing eagles 03-28-2020 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by murray5258 (Post 1735308)
i am hoping we get our checks. we don't get enough i S.S. to even file income tax . this would help pay for some of our medical bills. My hat gets tipped to the people who don't need the money.

I'm sorry that your finances are marginal, that must really suck. But they were marginal before we ever heard of COVID-19. So unless you had a job to supplement your income that you lost BECAUSE of the epidemic, your situation is unchanged. Therefore, why should you get any check? There are millions of workers supporting their families who suffered a major loss of income, that where the funds should be directed. This is not a Christmas gift, and should not go to anyone whose financial situation did not change. It should not go to non-US citizens or those on public assistance either, unless we want to subsidize the cigarette/beer/lottery ticket industries.

DianeM 03-28-2020 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1735342)
I'm sorry that your finances are marginal, that must really suck. But they were marginal before we ever heard of COVID-19. So unless you had a job to supplement your income that you lost BECAUSE of the epidemic, your situation is unchanged. Therefore, why should you get any check? There are millions of workers supporting their families who suffered a major loss of income, that where the funds should be directed. This is not a Christmas gift, and should not go to anyone whose financial situation did not change. It should not go to non-US citizens or those on public assistance either, unless we want to subsidize the cigarette/beer/lottery ticket industries.

Nailed It !

GoodLife 03-28-2020 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1735342)
I'm sorry that your finances are marginal, that must really suck. But they were marginal before we ever heard of COVID-19. So unless you had a job to supplement your income that you lost BECAUSE of the epidemic, your situation is unchanged. Therefore, why should you get any check? There are millions of workers supporting their families who suffered a major loss of income, that where the funds should be directed. This is not a Christmas gift, and should not go to anyone whose financial situation did not change. It should not go to non-US citizens or those on public assistance either, unless we want to subsidize the cigarette/beer/lottery ticket industries.

Gee that's funny, whenever I go to my local gas/convenience store I am always waiting in line behind fat white villagers buying 12 packs, 50 lotto games and a pack of camels who then jump into their $12k golf carts.

Steven carrier 03-28-2020 12:09 PM

I'm using mine to buy tp, paper towels and a gun with ammo.

coastalnh 03-28-2020 12:13 PM

Its amazing to me that so many do not understand the reasoning behind the shecks that we will be receiving. These are not meant for helping those affected by the virus (ie,those that have been laid off). The checks are for SPENDING by everyone with the purpose of stimulating the economy. Hence the name - Stimulus Checks. Those who have lost jobs are being helped by the longer Unemployment Compensation times and upgraded minimum $ amounts.

golfing eagles 03-28-2020 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1735348)
Gee that's funny, whenever I go to my local gas/convenience store I am always waiting in line behind fat white villagers buying 12 packs, 50 lotto games and a pack of camels who then jump into their $12k golf carts.

Yes, but they're buying it with their own money, not the taxpayer's

golfing eagles 03-28-2020 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by coastalnh (Post 1735352)
Its amazing to me that so many do not understand the reasoning behind the shecks that we will be receiving. These are not meant for helping those affected by the virus (ie,those that have been laid off). The checks are for SPENDING by everyone with the purpose of stimulating the economy. Hence the name - Stimulus Checks. Those who have lost jobs are being helped by the longer Unemployment Compensation times and upgraded minimum $ amounts.

That's true IN THEORY, but when they give checks to people who don't need he money, it just ends up in their portfolio. I will be spending the same amount of money whether I get a check or not, so I plan on giving it to people WHO NEED IT---they're the ones that will spend it. In that scenario, it's OK to give it to people who are marginal on their SS alone, since they will spend it as well.

mooned 03-28-2020 12:39 PM

supplement income checks.
 
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Originally Posted by Regor (Post 1734495)
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!

I may mistaken but have seen this on several web sites.

The $1200 checks will be payed back in the 2020 tax year as a deduction on our refunds or a increase in our tax debt. I read this to mean that if I was going to receive a $2,000 tax return next year I would first be debited the $1,200, and only receive $500 for my 2020 tax return. Not sure how they plan to handle the people who actually own taxes or do not receive a refund greater than the $1,200 but I for one plan on banking my $1,200 until I know for sure I won't be charged for it next year. Experience has shown that there is seldom a free lunch.

retiredguy123 03-28-2020 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mooned (Post 1735364)
I may mistaken but have seen this on several web sites.

The $1200 checks will be payed back in the 2020 tax year as a deduction on our refunds or a increase in our tax debt. I read this to mean that if I was going to receive a $2,000 tax return next year I would first be debited the $1,200, and only receive $500 for my 2020 tax return. Not sure how they plan to handle the people who actually own taxes or do not receive a refund greater than the $1,200 but I for one plan on banking my $1,200 until I know for sure I won't be charged for it next year. Experience has shown that there is seldom a free lunch.

According to Clark Howard, who has read the entire bill, the checks will not be used to offset any current year or back taxes owed.

ccgrier 03-28-2020 01:13 PM

If you don't need it don't cash the check if it come's by mail or help someone in need.

amlvarni 03-28-2020 01:36 PM

Because we are able to retire and be financially secure, we then can do things like donate any "extra" money to, say ... local medical facilities to purchase need supplies or any NGO that helps those in need. I think this always applies, especially today: “‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me’”. Enjoy sharing your wealth!

bear5770 03-28-2020 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Regor (Post 1734495)
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!

If you don’t need it, may I suggest you use it to support local businesses and to feed those in your area who are hungry.

dewilson58 03-28-2020 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bear5770 (Post 1735397)
If you don’t need it, may I suggest you use it to support local businesses and to feed those in your area who are hungry.


:bigbow:


Exactly................spend it, donate it into the economy.

NavyVet 03-28-2020 01:52 PM

I'm sure hairdressers/dog groomers/housekeepers have lost clients or are not working at all due to closures. I'm also going to order takeout and give big tips to all the servers at our favorite restaurants. Then whatever is left I will send to local animal shelters and rescues.
Another idea to give to the needy: Wildwood school district is always hurting for school supplies, etc. A lot of the kids are at or near poverty levels. Just a thought.

jryley2@yahoo.com 03-28-2020 01:55 PM

Donate it


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