You believe EVERY number the government publishes?

You need to get out into the real world...outside the bubble...you'll see for yourself that white people are a minority now.

"The sweeping racial changes transforming the United States come with an important demographic dimension: age. The waves of Hispanics and Asians and multiracial Americans reshaping the country’s population are full of young people, who by some measures already outnumber their white counterparts. The trend was punctuated by the arrival in 2011 of the first “majority-minority” birth cohort, the first in which the majority of U.S. babies were nonwhite minorities. Consequently, the racial makeup of the nation’s younger population is beginning to contrast sharply with that of baby boomers and seniors.

For most of U.S. history, the white population has been viewed as “mainstream” society, with sociologists viewing the assimilation of immigrants and ethnic minorities as dependent on their adoption of its way of life.1 Not coincidentally, whites were the numerically dominant racial group in the United States during that same time. (Between 1790 and 1980, whites ranged from 80 to 90 percent of the population.) But whites’ tenure as America’s mainstream population is on the wane, in a demographic sense.

The most recent information from the census and elsewhere shows how quickly the shift is happening. From 2000 to 2010, a decade during which the white population as a whole grew by just 1.2 percent, the number of white children in the United States declined by 4.3 million. Meanwhile the child populations of Hispanics, Asians, and people of two or more races were increasing. In comparative terms, whites constituted just 53 percent of America’s young people (down from nearly 70 percent in 1990) while Hispanics constituted 23 percent (up from just 12 percent). Smaller white populations already are evident in institutions that serve youth, such as elementary and secondary schools, and census projections show the white child population continuing to decline for years to come. White children will become a minority of children under age 18 well before 2020, and, soon thereafter, the white population as a whole is projected to begin to decrease.

For most of the lifetime of today’s young people—nearly one-half of whom already are members of racial minorities—America’s white population will be shrinking."

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White children are the minority now and have been for the last 7 years. We are losing the country...we are being bred out. And liberals are HAPPY about it. They have NO vision of the future they have wrought.

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Hispanics are counted as White by government.
 

I really appreciate your reasoned approach to the discussion. It is in refreshing contrast to those who just throw barbs, and ignore what is said by others.

You make interesting points, even if they are off topic. Sometimes the discussion simply evolves.

Having said that, I would now point out that there is a subtle shift in your argument. You started out talking about race; you are now talking about ethnicity.

What's the difference? Well, in the standards of the United States the major races include White, Black, and Asian. They collect information on Hispanic and Latino ethnicity, but do not consider it a race.

Other examples of ethnicity are people who are Americans, but identify themselves by the national origin of their ancestors, such as Italian-American, Irish-American, etc. The largest such demographic in the United States are those who identify themselves as German-American (according to census records.)

In America all of these groups with origins in Western Europe (including Spain) are considered White.

Now, if we can agree that you are actually discussing ethnicity and not race we may be approaching some agreement in this discussion. Note that your graph is not about race, but about culture, which makes the separate category of Hispanic more appropriate.

In my travels with Presidents and Presidential Candidates, I have been to every state in the United States except Vermont, New Hampshire, and North Dakota. My experience has been that the culture, but not necessarily the racial composition, in heavily Hispanic or traditionally Hispanic areas tends to be Hispanic.

SO, perhaps we can agree that there is a cultural shift going on in the country. This was probably pioneered by Liberal college professors and Black activists who objected to study of material by and about "Dead White Europeans." Talking about Liberal Education in most of our colleges today is nonsense. It is indoctrination, not education.

But, having said that the culture is changing, I will continue to recognize the Census Report that states that the total White population is 72.4%.

It's two different subjects.

There is the Negro problem. They ARE a different species and will NEVER (as a people) be able to succeed in a modern civilization. They have failed in EVERY corner of the world to become a peer of ANY race. They are ALWAYS the very bottom. Propping them up is a waste of time. We MUST admit the differences and work around them. Not pretend the differences are not there and lower all the standards for them. Do we agree?

The second subject is the Hispanic problem. Hispanics are for the most part...native Indians from central and south America. There is very little "Spanish blood" in most of them. They are at the lest a different race. Not only are they a different race, they're invading. They have dropped 50 million anchor babies here in America and are on track to becoming the absolute majority within 30 years. Owing to the condition of the border states and what a Hispanic majority becomes...I have NO faith that the future for America is a good one. I believe we'll become a Mexico II as they make America Mexican through the politicians they elect. One good thing...Hispanics don't like blacks...does anyone?...and they won't be as kind to them as we have been.

We've destroyed ourselves because we feminized and became too nice. They've taken advantage of that niceness and are successfully breeding us out.

No...Biden IS right this time. Hispanics are counted as white. They have been. That is why the numbers are skewed and it makes white look more violent and poor than they are. Go to the lockup, MOSTLY minorities. Go to the welfare office, MOSTLY minorities. You are lied to by your own government.

Just the fact that you "really appreciate" anything from the most disgusting racist on this site...says everything one needs to know about you. :ohdear:


To the decent people on this site, I will take this opportunity to take a very small bow (I mean cripes, it's not like it was hard to see from the beginning) and say that in regards to 'good ol' boy Carl'...I told you so. :ho:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

Not that Carl said anything other than "appreciate a reasoned response". Any idiot (including Rockface, the boy, and wackadoodle) would recognize that is not a statement of agreement.

You just got to laugh at this (unt, she now has a stiff tongue for Carl...

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Neurotic or Psychotic ?
 

It may be progressive.

Are not all these folks you are labeling here....Americans ?

Not in agreement.
 

No, we cannot agree that Blacks are "a different species." I accept the assertion of the Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History, to wit:

"The billions of human beings living today all belong to one species: Homo sapiens.

As in all species, there is variation among individual human beings, from size and shape to skin tone and eye color. But we are much more alike than we are different. We are, in fact, remarkably similar. The DNA of all human beings living today is 99.9% alike.

We all have roots extending back 200,000 years to the emergence of the first modern humans in Africa, and back more than 6 million years to the evolution of the earliest human species in Africa. This amazing story of adaptation and survival is written in the language of our genes, in every cell of our bodies—as well as in the fossil and behavioral evidence.

This ancient heritage is yours."

The argument about whether genetics or environment (nature or nurture) is determinative in the development and success of individuals (or even races) has been going on for centuries. We will not settle it here.

With regard to the massive influx of Hispanics from Mexico, Central, and South America, this was clearly part of Obama's plan to "fundamentally transform America." I ascribe the same motives to his move to raise the Muslim population of the country. Early indications are that Muslims are not predisposed to assimilate.

Having grown up in San Antonio, Texas, with a highly integrated White/Mexican population, and living most of my adult life in Tampa, Florida, where a tri-lingual (English/Spanish/Italian) language newspaper dominated the political reporting for decades, and where most Hispanics are from Cuba, Puerto Rico, and Spain, I am very comfortable with Hispanic influences in the culture. But, I resent the Obama effort because his method was to encourage lawlessness by illegal immigration.

Carl in Tampa

"The DNA of all human beings living today is 99.9% alike."

This is NOT true...that is the OLD thinking. The politically correct thinking. "Humans" came out of Africa, mated with other "humans" who had left earlier, and became different species. Europeans mated mostly with Neanderthals and Asians with Denisovan too.

"The recent sequencing of the Neanderthal and Denisovan genomes shows possible admixture. A draft sequence publication by the Neanderthal Genome Project in May 2010 indicates some form of hybridization between archaic humans and modern humans took place after modern humans emerged from Africa. An estimated 1 to 4 percent of the DNA in Europeans and Asians (i.e. French, Chinese and Papua probands) is non-modern, and shared with ancient Neanderthal DNA and not with Sub-Saharan Africans (i.e., Yoruba and San probands),[41] while Melanesians have an additional 1–6% of Denisovan origin.[42]"

"Studies published in March 2016 suggest that modern humans bred with hominins, including Denisovans and Neanderthals, on multiple occasions.[46]"

They ARE a different species.

Is so. Is not.
 

Any more discussion on this point between us would just be, "Is so." "Is not." So we may as well as wind this one up.


Carl in Tampa

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Only because you refuse to drop the politically correct dogma that's been beat into our heads our entire lives.

You go ahead...keep thinking everything is fine...while the entire country goes the way of Tampa and every other city...becoming a minority majority...and continuing to fall. Is Tampa getting better? Would you send your granddaughter to live in the black sections?

Lets visit MLK Blvd...where we will find the TRUTH about the 99%.

Lets visit the black villages...a place just like here...but 99% black. Lets visit the black Oxford...where all the black geniuses gather to improve the world. We'll also go visit all the great companies that blacks have founded...the black Intel, black Microsoft, etc.

There aren't ANY? No a surprise to me, I know they're not us...a different species...maybe YOU can explain it without blaming white people. If EVERYTHING wrong with blacks is white people's fault...we are hardly equal.

You can SAY they're equal...every article on the internet can SAY they are equal...but the proof is in real life...in their neighborhoods, in their schools, in the FACT that blacks are the ALWAYS the lowest rung in EVERY society. The proof of what they REALLY are can be found on MLK Blvd in any town/city.

Why is everyone afraid to go down to MLK Blvd at midnight to visit with our peers? Because everyone KNOWS they are dangerous animals.

Being poor doesn't make you violent...but being violent WILL make you poor. And THAT is why blacks never succeed.

Not happening.
 

Let it go. I'm not going to get into a circular argument with you.

It's almost as bad as trying to engage ColdNoMore, except that he has CSD and insists that I am a racist, while you think that I defend everything Blacks do, and you are fixated on a belief that Blacks are not homo sapiens.

It's strange that two different people can read the same postings and come to such opposite opinions.

But, in common with ColdNoMore, you attribute to me attitudes, beliefs, and positions that I have never articulated, and then expect me to defend them.

It's not going to happen.


Carl in Tampa

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Blacks are not "us"...they're not white nor Asian...blacks are an archaic early human. one step below "us", the other races. We ALL have up to 5% DNA that blacks do not have. We have different ancestors.

What you are doing is calling your next door neighbor a "relative". If you go back FAR enough...you are related. But they are not a "relative" because you are Italian and they are Nordic. Just because you SAY you are related, doesn't make it so. You can claim your dog is an equal, it is not. You can claim negros are human but genetic testing and categorizing proves they are not. 23andme is the WORST thing that could happen for blacks...it PROVES that they are not "us"...they are DIFFERENT from EVERY other race. Genetically. And my God...LOOK AT THEM...they don't look like ANY other race.

My perspective.
 

"Whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.” --- Jesus Christ, Matthew 12:50

"There is no Jew or Greek, slave or free, male or female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus." --- The Apostle Paul, Galatians 3:28

"God has shown me that I should not call any man unholy or unclean." --- The Apostle Peter, Acts 10:28

I am a Christian. The issue of race is settled for me.


Carl in Tampa

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My friend your comments struck a note, actually a reminder of past events, events and cause me to speak up.

Many years ago, I had been promoted to our Memphis office with responsibility for for Memphis, Northern Mississippi and all of Arkansas.

A black kid worked in office supply and since it was across the hall I needed supplies in a hurry so walked across the hall to get what I needed.

I entered and watched and heard this black kid's supervisor berating him because he wore cowboy boots. This white supervisor said "Who ever heard of a black cowboy?"

Knowing that the black kid was at a distinct disadvantage I quickly spoke up and looking at the black kid said "you might tell your boss if it weren't for the fact that he got all of his history from comic books he would have known that half of the old west cowboy population were black and hispanic".

Or under the affirmative action program I was required to hire a black male. I did. Both he and his wife held post graduate degrees.

I met resistance from my staff and from my customers. My customers would call me and tell me they refused to work with this arrogant so and so. I replied he was quite qualified and that I would lose credibility as a manager involving myself in racial politics.

My staff pulled what the left is doing today resistance and I spoke with each of them privately. the ringleader of the bunch was a north Mississippi lad. When I said we needed to work together as a team he replied "they all sub-human" I recognized what I was up against and simply told him if his personal beliefs interfered with business then we were going to have a problem.

This same guy was upset because I assigned a black female some of his duties. I did so because he allowed everyone to walk right over him and of the staff this black female was more assertive.

Much to my surprise a black female from another department came up to me and said "You are so much different than any white person I ever met." I was in a word "dumbfounded" because i was not on any campaign just trying to do my job fairly objectively professionally

My boss who was more interested in making friends and influencing people, and also a bigot ( a good-old boy), played along with my staff pitting them against me

I accepted a promotion back north because I knew that this office's undercurrent was very racially oriented and that there was no way I would have won

So my friend what you speak to on this forum most people won't buy and it is because your words imply hatred and absolutism.

Martin Luther King did practice non-violence to his credit, and he was 100% correct in stating that "a man should be judged by his character and not the color of his skin".

I harbor you no ill will and I hope someday you will find it in your heart to learn to accept that many people of color make a positive contribution to our society.

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Carl...you've fallen for TWO of the "great lies"...equality...AND religion.

You're one of Barnam's "suckers".

A very few...1%...MOST are as worthless as a dead dog.

Disagree? Lets go down to MLK Blvd and see for ourselves how equal they are.

You COULD have gotten a white person to do ANY of those things...better. Everyone makes a big deal over "their black experience" with one or two of them. How about the 99%? What is your experience with them? Lets go meet the 99% down on MLK Blvd.

You speak my language, Carl. Wish I would have thought to counter this with the same type of response long ago. Thank you for doing so.

You keep insisting that negros are humans. They are not. Genetically they're almost as different as a chimp, our SECOND closest relative. Did Jesus say "treat the chimps as you would your own"? No, in fact, in the OT, God says..."I give you these things to use"...meaning the plants and animals.

Negros are the "missing link" between the true humans and the other great apes. Talking apes in a sense.

The negroids are NOT us...we differ by up to 5%...that's 1/20th...it's a lot.

IF BLACKS WERE SUCCESSFUL ANYWHERE, IN ANY COUNTRY, AMONG ANY RACE...I would consider their equality. But I don't see that. I see than merely existing wherever they are. They NEVER excel as a people. They're NEVER at the top, and always at the bottom. The real world and their position in it...proves they are not equals. 1% may be equal but the baggage of the other 99% living along MLK Blvd isn't worth it. Blacks are a dead end offshoot. Like the Neanderthals and Denisovans. If we'd found them earlier, before becoming "civilized" and realizing their usefulness...we'd have killed them off like we did the other two archaic humans.

Negroids look less like us than the Neanderthal. You can see their features in whites. You can see the Denisovan features in Asians. Whites and Asians are closer genetically. Blacks are DISTINCT with no hybridization...or an unknown ancestor. Many waves of "humans" came out of Africa over a very long time. The longer they were away...the more the environment and social preferences changed them. We truly became by ANY non-political measure...different species.

And I'll say it again...religion...really Carl? You REALLY believe that stuff? To which of the 5,000 sects of Christianity alone do you subscribe? Do you follow ALL of the Bible Carl? Do you follow ALL of God's laws Carl? I doubt it...I bet you're a relativist...you pick and choose, twist meanings to fit your own narrative...do you? It's why there ARE 5,000 different sects of Christianity...everyone wants to make it what they want it to be.

Will the REAL Jesus please stand up.

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To All Posters of Political Forum -

Put Don Baldwin on your Ignore list. Without anyone to read his repugnant posts, he will go away.

Thank you.

ST

I disagree. Donny is our devils advocate. Challenges us to dig deep into our thoughts. Without people like him there is no debate, only mutual admiration.


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Sure wasn't this:

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23andMe would most certainly prove sub Saharan segments within many North Africans.


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I'm being set up...

Yup...

Well wiotte, lets take a look...a genetic map of the world:

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Africa stands apart...

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Again...look at central Africa...where the slaves came from..."unnamed archaic"

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Negros are not us.

These are not deep thoughts by Don Baldwin. These are theories from Social Darwinism which are associated with the Nazi Party, bad science, and colonialism.

I never said HE had deep thoughts. He challenges us to dig into OUR thoughts on such matters.


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His thoughts are shallow, only scratch the surface on this very complicated and multi layered subject.


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Donny is the kind of guy you would put on the front lines to use as cannon fodder.


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Posters with continuous dialogues with Donny B not only encourage him but make themselves appear complicit.

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Well then...lets hear your views.

Are you going to start posting your mom again? You already have quite a few schizophrenic posts today...the last 3 in fact.

Put up or shut up wiotte.

Assault on Free Speech
 

Complicit implies involvement in a criminal activity. This is a discussion with a person who looks at US from the most basic instincts we all share.


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He is on my Ignore List. Stays on it most of the time. I View Post once in a while to see if he has anything worthwhile to say. I do not think he even talks to people of color at all or maybe he is just someone with no empathy for other people.

Switching sides in an argument stimulates thought. You should try it.


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Ah no wiotte...maybe in debate class...but in the real world...there is truth and untruth...they don't switch on a whim.

My thoughts were stimulated when I weighed the evidence and came to a decision. MY decision.

Who TOLD you what to think about it? Some "authority" weighed the evidence for you? Well...they lied.

If you think I'm wrong ALL you have to do is find a black villages, a black Oxford, a black Intel, a black Einstein. ALL you have to so is SHOW US that they are in fact equal...and you're not just saying it....because they SHOULD be.

They're not and they shouldn't be "equal" because they're not us, not the same species...are incapable of what we are. Don't you remember growing up? The black kids weren't the smartest...they were the idiots. They HAD the same opportunity as you and I. Blame the parents? OK...stupid, inferior, different species parents had stupid, inferior, different species kids who will be just as stupid and do just as stupid things.

You can't get a human by breeding dogs. You can't get a human by breeding negros. It CAN'T happen. They are different species. Negros are part of the missing link.

What? He does not feel sorry for losers?



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Your thoughts are in a very narrow band. Do you want to be labeled narrow minded ? I think you already are. You've got a brain, use it.


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Partial credit

"Involved with others in an activity that is unlawful or morally wrong."

Remember Ivanka's take on it?

Complicit - SNL - YouTube

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If you quit smoking you can't have a cigarette every once in a while. It's a concept you have yet to comprehend.

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I put people on the Ignore List if they have nothing to say that is worthwhile. You have to check and see if they have anything to add once in a while. I have though I hope given up on looking at Allegiance and Dirtbanker's posts. They are not worth any more of my time and I do not need the stress these people present with their constant trolling personal attacks. They both should have been booted long ago off of Talk of the Villages.

The poster who goes by the user name Don Baldwin is never going to be taken seriously because he had long ago lost his objectivity. He deals in absolutism.

He certainly has the right to his opinion but his opinion is one I do not share. people on different philosophical planes will never agree. We are at an impasse.

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