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Guest 04-11-2012 09:43 AM

there are many, many, MANY men's clubs, women's clubs, black this or that club.....so why the emphasis on Augusta. It is/was Master's time of the year again. The same isolated few folks have a personal need to speak out and get their 15 minutes of fame.

So what about all the other "segregated" clubs that are not mentioned? Because they are not media, political or celebrity worthy that's what!!!

btk

Guest 04-11-2012 10:41 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 478032)
there are many, many, MANY men's clubs, women's clubs, black this or that club.....so why the emphasis on Augusta. It is/was Master's time of the year again. The same isolated few folks have a personal need to speak out and get their 15 minutes of fame.

So what about all the other "segregated" clubs that are not mentioned? Because they are not media, political or celebrity worthy that's what!!!

btk

No! That's not it. The Masters is one of the 4 Major Tournaments in golf each year. It is symbolic of so much more than just some country club in say upstate NY that does not allow men, gophers, or whomever. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men's_m..._championships

I would say that Mitt Romney who also thought this country club should allow women has had a lot more than 15 minutes of fame.

Guest 04-11-2012 10:52 AM

Very interesting article about a Maryland lawyer's fight against discrimination.
 
Bringing Women Up To Par At Maryland Country Clubs | Thatcher Law Firm | Washington, D.C.

Guest 04-11-2012 07:39 PM

For some reason this thread lives in political, why I do not know, but since it is still here....

"Female employees in the Obama White House make considerably less than their male colleagues, records show.

According to the 2011 annual report on White House staff, female employees earned a median annual salary of $60,000, which was about 18 percent less than the median salary for male employees ($71,000)"



"The president and his Democratic allies have accused Republicans of waging a “war on women,” and have touted themselves as champions of female equality. Obama’s rhetoric, however, has not always been supported by his actions.

White House press secretary Jay Carney told reporters last week that Obama believes it is “long past the time” for women to be admitted to the traditionally all-male Augusta National Golf Club, site of the Masters golf tournament.

But the president has demonstrated a strong preference for all-male foursomes in his frequent golf outings, a bias that extends well beyond the putting green and into the Oval Office."


Big sentence in this article is "Obama’s rhetoric, however, has not always been supported by his actions." because he has at least been very consistent with that !!!!

Hostile Workplace | Washington Free Beacon

Guest 04-11-2012 08:39 PM

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Probably both. If I could bet on this, I would bet that she would be invited and out of respect to the tradition decline the invitation. Ginni Rometty is a class act and will conduct herself accordingly.

And she doesn't play golf.....

Guest 04-17-2012 09:21 PM

Carolyn Maloney Equal Pay At Augusta Act.
 
Carolyn Maloney, New York Representative, Seeks To Deny Tax Breaks To Men-Only Businesses

This may get interesting if the Act gets anywhere.

Guest 04-19-2012 08:10 AM

Happy National Golf Day.
 
Happy National Golf Day To All! (Except for You, Augusta National) - SBNation.com

Guest 05-09-2012 12:43 PM

Warren Buffet and the Augusta National Golf Club.
 
Buffett Says Augusta Would Have Women If He Ran Golf Club - Bloomberg

Guest 05-09-2012 01:13 PM

Hi Tal: In my corporate days I had done many things to advance the cause of women who truly deserved an opportunity to advance, etc. I worked all the officer positions in an adjunct organization involving my discipline. When I first arrived there were no women. This group were an all boys club right out of the 1950's I recognized the benefit of having women join our ranks. I laid the ground work with guys I knew would resist and made contacts with a number of women I had come to know, one of which made it clear she had attended one of our meetings and was put off. By the the time I left after serving as president women were half the membership and entering officer positions. Two years after my presidency we elected our first women president. By the way it was the woman I mentioned early who was put off. she trusted me and knew I was only interested in having a solid organization. I do believe mena and women complement one another and would thus make for a better organization.

Having said that I do not believe that Augusta National should be forced into accepting women. In time that will happen but it is better to let it evolve.

Guest 05-09-2012 01:28 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 490336)
Hi Tal: In my corporate days I had done many things to advance the cause of women who truly deserved an opportunity to advance, etc. I worked all the officer positions in an adjunct organization involving my discipline. When I first arrived there were no women. This group were an all boys club right out of the 1950's I recognized the benefit of having women join our ranks. I laid the ground work with guys I knew would resist and made contacts with a number of women I had come to know, one of which made it clear she had attended one of our meetings and was put off. By the the time I left after serving as president women were half the membership and entering officer positions. Two years after my presidency we elected our first women president. By the way it was the woman I mentioned early who was put off. she trusted me and knew I was only interested in having a solid organization. I do believe men and women complement one another and would thus make for a better organization.

Having said that I do not believe that Augusta National should be forced into accepting women. In time that will happen but it is better to let it evolve.

I agree that they should not be forced to allow a woman member. That would violate the First Amendment right of association. An army of lawyers probably could find multiple ways to force them to admit a woman; but, then Augusta National Golf Course would hire their army of lawyers to fight it. In the end, only the lawyers and the media would really win this one. The image of golf as a sport would suffer more.

Guest 05-09-2012 07:15 PM

I really thought that this thread would be dormant until next year's Masters tournament!!

The time has passed.

Guest 05-10-2012 06:51 AM

It is in the news.
 
PGA Tour

Guest 05-10-2012 08:36 AM

Kill This Thread
 
Can we PLEASE kill this thread now? Every view has been posted, in some cases numerous times. Let it go to the bottom of the board and be forgotten until next year.

Guest 05-10-2012 11:54 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 490659)
Can we PLEASE kill this thread now? Every view has been posted, in some cases numerous times. Let it go to the bottom of the board and be forgotten until next year.

I only update this thread when there has been a significant development. Like with today's post.

That was about the PGA.

"U.S. PGA Tour Commissioner Tim Finchem said the Masters Tournament is 'too important' to golf for his group not to recognize the event because of Augusta National Golf Club’s all-male membership.

Golf’s richest circuit won’t change its position on the issue because 'we don’t have to,' Finchem said in a press conference today in Ponte Vedra Beach, Florida, site of the Players championship." PGA Tour

This topic could become hot again if one of the Presidential candidates or some other candidate picks up this issue.

Guest 05-10-2012 01:18 PM

Are gays allowed to join Augusta National?

Guest 05-10-2012 01:33 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 490764)
Are gays allowed to join Augusta National?

I dun no? Is John Travolta a member?

Guest 05-10-2012 01:51 PM

"Don't ask, don't tell" would probably still be in effect at the Augusta National Country Club.

IBM does have an excellent set of benefits for their same-sex employees though.


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