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Guest 04-08-2012 08:20 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 476936)
And, I never said anything about the government forcing the Augusta National Country Club to change its policy on women. They should do it because it is the right thing to do.

I believe we're basically agreeing with each other. You say they should do it because it is right thing to do. My belief is that they should do it if they want to and to H--- with political correctness.

Guest 04-08-2012 08:29 PM

bbqman:agree:

Guest 04-09-2012 05:58 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 476958)
I believe we're basically agreeing with each other. You say they should do it because it is right thing to do. My belief is that they should do it if they want to and to H--- with political correctness.

Rich white men usually can do whatever they want with respect to political correctness.

My guess is that the IBM CEO has already been invited to join this Country Club but the Augusta National Country Club will just keep it secret so as not to keep this PR mess in the media.

Congrats to Bubba Watson for winning this year's Masters (2012).

Guest 04-09-2012 06:35 AM

Just a thought but I have not seen anything in the newspapers since the one or two articles about the Master and IBM having a female CEO. It apparently was not a big deal to anyone at the Masters.

That said, since the Masters is over any talk of opening membership at the Masters to females is put to bed until the 2013 Masters.

Guest 04-09-2012 07:01 AM

The NY Times had something recently.
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 477040)
Just a thought but I have not seen anything in the newspapers since the one or two articles about the Master and IBM having a female CEO. It apparently was not a big deal to anyone at the Masters.

That said, since the Masters is over any talk of opening membership at the Masters to females is put to bed until the 2013 Masters.



http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/09/sp...rowd.html?_r=1

From the NY Times article--

"Billy Payne, the club’s chairman, avoided the issue in a news conference that turned contentious early in the week, but even on Sunday, as the leaders were moving toward the back nine, there were still strong feelings on both sides among many of the spectators."

Guest 04-09-2012 08:24 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 477048)
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/09/sp...rowd.html?_r=1

From the NY Times article--

"Billy Payne, the club’s chairman, avoided the issue in a news conference that turned contentious early in the week, but even on Sunday, as the leaders were moving toward the back nine, there were still strong feelings on both sides among many of the spectators."

The Masters is nothing without tradition...unfortunately 2 traditions are at odds:

1. Men only members
2. The CEO of IBM is automatically invited to join.

Which tradition will win out?

Guest 04-09-2012 08:35 AM

This same tired discussion comes up every year at The Masters. It will now go away until next year. No big deal.

Next topic, please.

Guest 04-09-2012 08:45 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 477085)
The Masters is nothing without tradition...unfortunately 2 traditions are at odds:

1. Men only members
2. The CEO of IBM is automatically invited to join.

Which tradition will win out?

Probably both. If I could bet on this, I would bet that she would be invited and out of respect to the tradition decline the invitation. Ginni Rometty is a class act and will conduct herself accordingly.

Guest 04-09-2012 09:30 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 477085)
The Masters is nothing without tradition...unfortunately 2 traditions are at odds:

1. Men only members
2. The CEO of IBM is automatically invited to join.

Which tradition will win out?

Maybe an "honorary membership"?

Guest 04-09-2012 09:54 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 477085)
The Masters is nothing without tradition...unfortunately 2 traditions are at odds:

1. Men only members
2. The CEO of IBM is automatically invited to join.

Which tradition will win out?

Interesting dilemma. My guess is she might be too busy running IBM to get involved with the Augusta National Country Club even if invited.

Also, she might not want her name associated with being the first women allowed as a Member at August.

Guest 04-10-2012 06:18 AM

Wall Street Journal comes through with some common sense.
 
Masters 2012: A Tradition That Should Change. IBM's Virginia Rometty and Augusta National Golf Club - WSJ.com

Sexism at Augusta National (or, when false objectivity gets in the way of the facts) - Forbes


A quote from the Wall Street Journal article by Jason Gay.

"It's time to take off those stylish green tin foil hats, turn down the reality distortion field, and acknowledge the obvious: Absence of a female member at golf's most prominent club—not just a folksy conclave in the woods, but the sport's best-known stage, a citadel of corporate power, happily monetizing and broadcasting its event to millions—is woefully out-of-date and should embarrass anyone invested in this event."

Guest 04-10-2012 06:38 AM

and what page in the book of earth shattering priorities should this subject be located?

btk

Guest 04-10-2012 06:47 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 477549)
and what page in the book of earth shattering priorities should this subject be located?

btk

It has just moved up a number of pages in that book with The Wall Street Journal and Forbes adding their voices.

Looks like a feminist with connections is also getting into it-- http://themoderatevoice.com/143836/a...nge-the-world/

Guest 04-10-2012 08:43 AM

I think that if the liberals would spend as much time being "busy" as being "busy bodies" we could double our productivity!
Why don't we just find everything that works and screw it up and get it over with. That way we can just start wearing the little grey uniforms that make us all the same!

Wait, that's what we are doing, Okay were on track.

And yes for those out there that can't stand it, this is just me jumping in with a one-liner. (maybe two.)

Guest 04-10-2012 10:32 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 477602)
I think that if the liberals would spend as much time being "busy" as being "busy bodies" we could double our productivity!
Why don't we just find everything that works and screw it up and get it over with. That way we can just start wearing the little grey uniforms that make us all the same!

Wait, that's what we are doing, Okay were on track.

And yes for those out there that can't stand it, this is just me jumping in with a one-liner. (maybe two.)

Not sure what you are talking about here. It brings to mind the "Little Boxes" song which unless I am mistaken was written by a San Francisco activist. Cannot really get more liberal than that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Boxes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malvina_Reynolds


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