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Guest 01-03-2016 09:09 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1166040)
typical, do the deed and blame it on someone else--"elect a conservative" like bush43, who destroyed this country financially to get the invisible wmd's





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Sure, invisible WMD's. I guess they were invisible when Sadaam killed almost half a million with them. He did have them, but it was pretty easy for him to move them out of the country, since we gave him so much warning ahead of going into Iraq. If you were smart enough to do your own research, and not so lazy as is with most liberals, you too would know the facts.

But, that's for another thread. You are very good at diverting when it gets too uncomfortable for you.

Guest 01-03-2016 09:14 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1166043)
the fact is you would vote for anyone running as a republican, pathetic, what you want is a dictatorship or communism

That has got to be a winner in the most stupid response on this forum :eclipsee_gold_cup:. It's not the Republicans that are at war against Christianity. It's not the Republicans that are socialists on the way to communism and it's your messiah in D.C. that's the Tyrant dictator with the executive order pen and makes unconstitutional law. And before you come back and ask me to give proof of that, do your own research on how many E.O.'s the supremes have deemed unconstitutional.

Either you are truly that ignorant, or you are just a baiting liberal troll. Either way, that was a stupid response.

Guest 01-03-2016 09:23 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1166011)
i think there are enough knowledgeable voters now to realize that it would have been the President shutting down the govt and they would have voted republican. now the result is that even republicans don't want to vote republican! i am voting for Trump, Cruz or Dr Carson, whichever might get the nomination.

Personally, I do not know of ANY Republican voters that would vote for Hillary. And I live in the Villages, where the majority of the residents are conservative. So, I assume that you are just attempting to bait, or extremely ignorant. No one conservative wanted them to continue to fund planned parenthood, but the only way to avoid shutting down the gov and taking the Rap for it, was to pass a budget that Obummer would sign and not veto. It's called a tactical retreat. They could have stood their ground and taken a political @$$ whooping, or they could wait until they had the power to win by electing a Republican president. If they thought there was no chance of winning the election, then they would have been justified in fighting this battle. They did exactly what I would intelligently want them to do. They had no option available. Obama is determined to be his normal petulant child and get his way, regardless of what damage he does to America. He is a slime that is protected by his minority status only, and can only be beat by enduring the fallout from his tantrums.

Guest 01-03-2016 10:07 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1166074)
Personally, I do not know of ANY Republican voters that would vote for Hillary. And I live in the Villages, where the majority of the residents are conservative. So, I assume that you are just attempting to bait, or extremely ignorant. No one conservative wanted them to continue to fund planned parenthood, but the only way to avoid shutting down the gov and taking the Rap for it, was to pass a budget that Obummer would sign and not veto. It's called a tactical retreat. They could have stood their ground and taken a political @$$ whooping, or they could wait until they had the power to win by electing a Republican president. If they thought there was no chance of winning the election, then they would have been justified in fighting this battle. They did exactly what I would intelligently want them to do. They had no option available. Obama is determined to be his normal petulant child and get his way, regardless of what damage he does to America. He is a slime that is protected by his minority status only, and can only be beat by enduring the fallout from his tantrums.

It is not called a tactical retreat. Americans don't retreat no matter what party they are in. What they do is "advance in a different direction".

The one overwhelming theme on this board is Republicans aren't responsible for anything that has happened in the last seven years. Their job is to sit there and cry like a baby every time they don't get your way. Republicans have excelled at it of this they have no equal.

You keep on mentioning Obama threat of using the veto to stop legislation he doesn't agree with, but not word one about McConnell use of the filibuster to stop just about everything, and everybody proposed by the Democrats.

If Republicans are afraid of getting blamed for a government shutdown, maybe people don't agree with their proposals. We know that can't be, because they are never wrong, or at least they think that they are never wrong.

Guest 01-03-2016 12:27 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1166088)
It is not called a tactical retreat. Americans don't retreat no matter what party they are in. What they do is "advance in a different direction".

The one overwhelming theme on this board is Republicans aren't responsible for anything that has happened in the last seven years. Their job is to sit there and cry like a baby every time they don't get your way. Republicans have excelled at it of this they have no equal.

You keep on mentioning Obama threat of using the veto to stop legislation he doesn't agree with, but not word one about McConnell use of the filibuster to stop just about everything, and everybody proposed by the Democrats.

If Republicans are afraid of getting blamed for a government shutdown, maybe people don't agree with their proposals. We know that can't be, because they are never wrong, or at least they think that they are never wrong.

Let's see, "Republicans cry like a baby" and yet it is always you liberals that whine on here all day long.
Obie's Veto power? Yes, he has threatened to veto any budget he did not agree on. He told congress what they HAD to do and that he would not accept anything less. A tyrant by anyone's standards.
You Liberals continue with the filibuster cr@p, and yet have no problem with how Reid kept a hundred House passed bills on his desk, refusing to allow a vote on them, or even a discussion. Talk about a hypocrite.
"Maybe people don't agree with them.." Yes, of course. That's why we have a Republican majority now, because the people don't believe in them. Have you thought about that?

We do know a few things that are a given. We have a tyrant in the White House, that does what he wishes and knows that no one is going to stop him because he can get over by using his minority status. We know that he is a socialist by his own words and that he cares more for the feelings of Muslims than American Christians, and those Christians overseas that are getting murdered. We also know that he hates cops, agrees with the Black lives matter cretins, and the Wall St protesters/cretins. WE know that he believes in leading from behind, which really means FOLLOWING. We know that appearing on TV is more important to him than doing his job. We know that he considers the Republicans to be his "enemies" by his own words.

I apologize, I don't have time to list all the things that I do not like about Obama, the leader of the Democrat party. Sorry, but in my opinion Obama is not fit to run our country, since he does not love it as one that fought for it. He is attempting to make us European socialist, his words, and that is UN-American. I believe that if he thinks that I am one of the enemy, then he IS the enemy. And he is leader of the Democrat party, the defunct Democratic party. Most likely soon to become the Democrat Socialist party and then the United Socialist States of America.

And I do not apologize for being a Republican, or try to make everyone think that I am Independent.

Guest 01-03-2016 01:36 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1166165)
Let's see, "Republicans cry like a baby" and yet it is always you liberals that whine on here all day long.
Obie's Veto power? Yes, he has threatened to veto any budget he did not agree on. He told congress what they HAD to do and that he would not accept anything less. A tyrant by anyone's standards.
You Liberals continue with the filibuster cr@p, and yet have no problem with how Reid kept a hundred House passed bills on his desk, refusing to allow a vote on them, or even a discussion. Talk about a hypocrite.
"Maybe people don't agree with them.." Yes, of course. That's why we have a Republican majority now, because the people don't believe in them. Have you thought about that?

We do know a few things that are a given. We have a tyrant in the White House, that does what he wishes and knows that no one is going to stop him because he can get over by using his minority status. We know that he is a socialist by his own words and that he cares more for the feelings of Muslims than American Christians, and those Christians overseas that are getting murdered. We also know that he hates cops, agrees with the Black lives matter cretins, and the Wall St protesters/cretins. WE know that he believes in leading from behind, which really means FOLLOWING. We know that appearing on TV is more important to him than doing his job. We know that he considers the Republicans to be his "enemies" by his own words.

I apologize, I don't have time to list all the things that I do not like about Obama, the leader of the Democrat party. Sorry, but in my opinion Obama is not fit to run our country, since he does not love it as one that fought for it. He is attempting to make us European socialist, his words, and that is UN-American. I believe that if he thinks that I am one of the enemy, then he IS the enemy. And he is leader of the Democrat party, the defunct Democratic party. Most likely soon to become the Democrat Socialist party and then the United Socialist States of America.

And I do not apologize for being a Republican, or try to make everyone think that I am Independent.


BS!

Guest 01-03-2016 01:44 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1166189)
BS!

Nope, no BS.

Guest 01-03-2016 02:00 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1166040)
typical, do the deed and blame it on someone else--"elect a conservative" like bush43, who destroyed this country financially to get the invisible wmd's





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Exactly! Republicans ruined the country financially in addition to all the lives needlessly lost in a war we realize now was a mistake and based on false pretenses.

Guest 01-03-2016 02:01 PM

To his credit, Bush did apologize for his terrible mistake.

Guest 01-03-2016 02:05 PM

veto
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 1166029)
Dear Guest: You are either one who lives a very sheltered life or a troll. In either case for the record here is a response.

You are correct. Essentially Congress (Legislative Branch) makes law and controls spending. The Executive Branch carries out those laws, and the Judicial Branch (Supreme Court) interprets such laws. Its called separation of powers and was constructed to maintain balance

However Obama has turned this fine balance on its head by veto, executive order, regulations (over 80,000 pages in 2015) via federal agencies (czar appointed and not elected. He essentially has ignored Congress altogether and has taken public issue with some of the decisions made by the Supreme Court, to wit Citizens United (see below)

This dance of his has been going on for his entire tenure and it has been very damaging. Anyone who believes what Obama says are as they say in the game of politics "useful idiots", because Obama doesn't care about you, me or them. Obama is a puppet to internationalist that want to take America down a peg or two. All one has to do to know this is true is to take a broad view of the tapestry of Obama's political works

For example, in response to Citizens United a decision and its deciders he publicly ridiculed at one of his televised State of the Union addresses, he sent his bull dogs (IRS) to counter its effect by targeting conservative groups.

Unlike some on this thread the threat of a government shut down did not concern me one bit because essential service by law must be maintained and you can't fool all of the people all of the time.....Many people including some of the liberal media are finally realizing what a monster Obama the Terrible really is and the damage he has wrought on America. I make this statement with a heavy heart because as Americans are taught one supports and respects the position of the President of these United States.

However in this case I have never acknowledge Obama as being my president and I believe he has been very disrespectful of America and its people and as such he has not earned their respect.

Personal Best Regards:




PLease get your facts straight as per vetos. "Obama has turned this fine balance on its head by veto" The republicans have done a fine job with vetos.


President Regular Pocket
vetoes vetoes

Dwight Eisenhower 73 108
John Kennedy 12 9
Lyndon Johnson 16 14
Richard Nixon 27 17
Gerald Ford 48 18
Jimmy Carter 13 18
Ronald Reagan 39 39
George H. W. Bush 29 15
Bill Clinton 36 1
George W. 11 1
Barack Obama 7 1

Guest 01-03-2016 02:14 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1166165)
Let's see, "Republicans cry like a baby" and yet it is always you liberals that whine on here all day long.
Obie's Veto power? Yes, he has threatened to veto any budget he did not agree on. He told congress what they HAD to do and that he would not accept anything less. A tyrant by anyone's standards.
You Liberals continue with the filibuster cr@p, and yet have no problem with how Reid kept a hundred House passed bills on his desk, refusing to allow a vote on them, or even a discussion. Talk about a hypocrite.
"Maybe people don't agree with them.." Yes, of course. That's why we have a Republican majority now, because the people don't believe in them. Have you thought about that?

We do know a few things that are a given. We have a tyrant in the White House, that does what he wishes and knows that no one is going to stop him because he can get over by using his minority status. We know that he is a socialist by his own words and that he cares more for the feelings of Muslims than American Christians, and those Christians overseas that are getting murdered. We also know that he hates cops, agrees with the Black lives matter cretins, and the Wall St protesters/cretins. WE know that he believes in leading from behind, which really means FOLLOWING. We know that appearing on TV is more important to him than doing his job. We know that he considers the Republicans to be his "enemies" by his own words.

I apologize, I don't have time to list all the things that I do not like about Obama, the leader of the Democrat party. Sorry, but in my opinion Obama is not fit to run our country, since he does not love it as one that fought for it. He is attempting to make us European socialist, his words, and that is UN-American. I believe that if he thinks that I am one of the enemy, then he IS the enemy. And he is leader of the Democrat party, the defunct Democratic party. Most likely soon to become the Democrat Socialist party and then the United Socialist States of America.
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Once again, you just have to get it into your noggin that YOU are the "new minority". Your viewpoints are not shared by the majority of voters. The new majority are a diverse voting bloc which includes the African Americans, Hispanics, college educated women, voters under age 45, and the LBGT community.

The Republican Party/Tea Party has not been known to be inclusive of these voters and it has come back to bite them in the butt.

Guest 01-03-2016 02:17 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1166210)
PLease get your facts straight as per vetos. "Obama has turned this fine balance on its head by veto" The republicans have done a fine job with vetos.


President Regular Pocket
vetoes vetoes

Dwight Eisenhower 73 108
John Kennedy 12 9
Lyndon Johnson 16 14
Richard Nixon 27 17
Gerald Ford 48 18
Jimmy Carter 13 18
Ronald Reagan 39 39
George H. W. Bush 29 15
Bill Clinton 36 1
George W. 11 1
Barack Obama 7 1

Please do not confuse him with actual facts. It makes his head hurt. :loco:

Guest 01-03-2016 04:24 PM

WMD's.
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 1166066)
Sure, invisible WMD's. I guess they were invisible when Sadaam killed almost half a million with them. He did have them, but it was pretty easy for him to move them out of the country, since we gave him so much warning ahead of going into Iraq. If you were smart enough to do your own research, and not so lazy as is with most liberals, you too would know the facts.

But, that's for another thread. You are very good at diverting when it gets too uncomfortable for you.

How did he do it, with a magic wand? And where did he put them, never never land?

Guest 01-03-2016 05:09 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1166214)
Once again, you just have to get it into your noggin that YOU are the "new minority". Your viewpoints are not shared by the majority of voters. The new majority are a diverse voting bloc which includes the African Americans, Hispanics, college educated women, voters under age 45, and the LBGT community.

The Republican Party/Tea Party has not been known to be inclusive of these voters and it has come back to bite them in the butt.

You don't seem to be able to grasp that the majority of the voters you refer to are not the majority of Americans.......you just keep telling yourself about the fictional majority to make yourself feel good.

A real :censored: up definition that a elementary schooler would understand better.
New normal!
New majority!
New patient for the booby bin!!!

Guest 01-03-2016 07:13 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1166260)
You don't seem to be able to grasp that the majority of the voters you refer to are not the majority of Americans.......you just keep telling yourself about the fictional majority to make yourself feel good.
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You do not seem to be able to grasp that it is the majority of voters who make the difference. The majority of voters making the differences now are the minorities of the past now combined into the Democratic party. The Republican/Tea Party did not reach out to these groups to be included in their party.

Hillary wins!


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