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Guest 12-23-2011 04:48 PM

Nobody has mentioned that Obama himself was asking for a one year extension. The Democrat controlled Senate instead came up with this 2 month band-aid that will be funded by permanent mortgage fees. This is now heralded as a bill "for the people"?

The lamestream media, which has become a de-facto arm of the Democrat Party and an Obama PAC, lied to the public about this bill and every dishonest actor has jumped on the bandwagon with rampant misinformation.

The kool-aid is flowing freely these days.

Guest 12-23-2011 05:02 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 432183)
Nobody has mentioned that Obama himself was asking for a one year extension. The Democrat controlled Senate instead came up with this 2 month band-aid that will be funded by permanent mortgage fees. This is now heralded as a bill "for the people"?

The lamestream media, which has become a de-facto arm of the Democrat Party and an Obama PAC, lied to the public about this bill and every dishonest actor has jumped on the bandwagon with rampant misinformation.

The kool-aid is flowing freely these days.

ahem, richie - i did back in post #9 -

"and as for the republican house reversal...no help for obama...it shows that he, too, can flip flop from demanding a 1 yr extension to being pressured and strong-armed by the democratic senate"...

but i have not heard one media type yet report the flip-flop!

Guest 12-23-2011 05:18 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 432183)
Nobody has mentioned that Obama himself was asking for a one year extension. The Democrat controlled Senate instead came up with this 2 month band-aid that will be funded by permanent mortgage fees. This is now heralded as a bill "for the people"?

The lamestream media, which has become a de-facto arm of the Democrat Party and an Obama PAC, lied to the public about this bill and every dishonest actor has jumped on the bandwagon with rampant misinformation.

The kool-aid is flowing freely these days.

The republican house made the one year extension so reprehensible by demanding 200,000 federal employees lose their jobs, pay-freezes on the rest, and, my favorite, drug-testing unemployment benefit recipients. That worked out so well in FL when Gov Scott required all welfare recipients to be drug tested only to find that less than 2% tested positive, far fewer than the general population that uses drugs. This debacle cost the good state of Florida $160 million until the courts overturned it.

If the two month band-aid is such a bad deal, why did the tea-party controlled house vote to accept it? Could it have something to do with their 11% approval rating?

Guest 12-23-2011 06:40 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 432190)
The republican house made the one year extension so reprehensible by demanding 200,000 federal employees lose their jobs, pay-freezes on the rest, and, my favorite, drug-testing unemployment benefit recipients. That worked out so well in FL when Gov Scott required all welfare recipients to be drug tested only to find that less than 2% tested positive, far fewer than the general population that uses drugs. This debacle cost the good state of Florida $160 million until the courts overturned it.

If the two month band-aid is such a bad deal, why did the tea-party controlled house vote to accept it? Could it have something to do with their 11% approval rating?

janmcn - you have so many answers...can you answer these questions, beacuse i can't:
1) why did the president flip flop from his demand for a 1 yr extension?
2) why didn't the president make harry reid pass the 1 yr extension that he was insisting on?
3) why didn't the president take part in negotiating with all parties rather than just making tv appearances/press conferences?
4) why does this president prefer to having others make policy for him rather than getting involved in the process himself? didn't he learn anything from the super committee?
4) do you think pay raises for federal employees is the wrong thing to do when the same thing is happening in the private sector?

thanx for your wisdom and insight.

Guest 12-23-2011 06:50 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 432206)
janmcn - you have so many answers...can you answer these questions, beacuse i can't:
1) why did the president flip flop from his demand for a 1 yr extension?
2) why didn't the president make harry reid pass the 1 yr extension that he was insisting on?
3) why didn't the president take part in negotiating with all parties rather than just making tv appearances/press conferences?
4) why does this president prefer to having others make policy for him rather than getting involved in the process himself? didn't he learn anything from the super committee?
4) do you think pay raises for federal employees is the wrong thing to do when the same thing is happening in the private sector?

thanx for your wisdom and insight.

Congress passes laws, not the president.

Guest 12-23-2011 06:51 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 432206)
janmcn - you have so many answers...can you answer these questions, beacuse i can't:
1) why did the president flip flop from his demand for a 1 yr extension?
2) why didn't the president make harry reid pass the 1 yr extension that he was insisting on?
3) why didn't the president take part in negotiating with all parties rather than just making tv appearances/press conferences?
4) why does this president prefer to having others make policy for him rather than getting involved in the process himself? didn't he learn anything from the super committee?
4) do you think pay raises for federal employees is the wrong thing to do when the same thing is happening in the private sector?

thanx for your wisdom and insight.

He flipped because he said nobody was going on vacation until they reached a deal. He wanted to go on vacation so he took the 2 month "deal". IMO

Guest 12-23-2011 09:04 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 432207)
Congress passes laws, not the president.

so are you saying that the president really does not care what happens as long as congress makes something happen?

Guest 12-23-2011 09:07 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 432209)
He flipped because he said nobody was going on vacation until they reached a deal. He wanted to go on vacation so he took the 2 month "deal". IMO

that's sure easy to agree with! did you see the news clip where be bolted for the helicopter right after signing the legislation? i wonder how long he'll stay on vacation...prob 'til he hasta make another campaign appearance!

Guest 12-23-2011 09:11 PM

Well, at least he admitted that he has a "laziness" in him...:1rotfl:

Guest 12-23-2011 09:13 PM

Unless they have changed the Constitution, it is the responsibility of Congress to introduce and pass legislation.

Guest 12-23-2011 10:09 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 432235)
Unless they have changed the Constitution, it is the responsibility of Congress to introduce and pass legislation.

thanx for that correction, coralway. and after the president SIGNS the legislation it becomes law - am i right? social studies was not my best subject all those years ago!


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