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dave harris 03-08-2017 12:16 PM

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Last time I checked, this is still a country of free speech and this is an opinion forum. Who are you to tell anyone on here to "SHUT UP!"?

Your side of the aisle is always crowing about free speech, but obviously that right is reserved for you guys.

You can't yell fire in a theater and you can't accuse peole without documentation, it's called libel. I stand by my post.

dave harris 03-08-2017 12:17 PM

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It's actually the CIA-NSA-FBI-MSM-Hollywood-Clinton-Obama-Soros Terrorist Organization.

How about the koch brother's are they in there?

dirtbanker 03-08-2017 12:21 PM

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You know turn around is fair play, people like have caused this problem.

I am sorry, another post of yours that I am unable to decipher...what are you trying to say??

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dirtbanker 03-08-2017 12:28 PM

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Every one has the right to free speech but we all, I think you would agree, that the speech be true!

The President of the United States tweeted that a former President of the United States wiretapped him during the campaign. To date no one has provided any proof.. so where is the proof?

Now ease up a little there, I don't see a lot of proof to back up your opinions...or did I miss something?

Accusations happen on a daily bases...Obviously, Trump will have to provide proof before charges are brought. If he was a polished politician he would have made waited till he had completed the investigation prior, made the accusation and arrested the guy all in the same day. He is learning as he goes??

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dirtbanker 03-08-2017 12:33 PM

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You can't yell fire in a theater and you can't accuse peole without documentation, it's called libel. I stand by my post.

You certainly can yell fire in a theater...if there is no fire you will be arrested.

Not sure what is libel?

I am sure you have never accused "peole" without documentation...


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cologal 03-08-2017 03:26 PM

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Now ease up a little there, I don't see a lot of proof to back up your opinions...or did I miss something?

Accusations happen on a daily bases...Obviously, Trump will have to provide proof before charges are brought. If he was a polished politician he would have made waited till he had completed the investigation prior, made the accusation and arrested the guy all in the same day. He is learning as he goes??

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Ok lets look at this in a slightly different way! Think of the Wizard of Oz. Don't look at the man behind the curtain look over there!!!! He accused the former President of the United States of America of a felony without any evidence and none has been forthcoming since. How long should we wait?

I would agree he is NOT a polished politician....

dirtbanker 03-08-2017 04:18 PM

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Ok lets look at this in a slightly different way! Think of the Wizard of Oz. Don't look at the man behind the curtain look over there!!!! He accused the former President of the United States of America of a felony without any evidence and none has been forthcoming since. How long should we wait?

I would agree he is NOT a polished politician....

While the scarecrow was fooled, Toto was not fooled by the curtain...this has nothing to do with diversion as that would not be a sustainable ploy.

You are making an assumption when you say there is no evidence, and it has to go through the process before we will know what evidence there is, or is not.

Neither Trump nor Obamma are fleeing the country

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dave harris 03-08-2017 04:30 PM

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You certainly can yell fire in a theater...if there is no fire you will be arrested.

Not sure what is libel?

I am sure you have never accused "peole" without documentation...


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I do have documentation when i accuse. I guess you never made a spelling error, your so perfect. If you got arrested for it you do not have freedom to do it.

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Rockyrd 03-08-2017 04:30 PM

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While the scarecrow was fooled, Toto was not fooled by the curtain...this has nothing to do with diversion as that would not be a sustainable ploy.

You are making an assumption when you say there is no evidence, and it has to go through the process before we will know what evidence there is, or is not.

Neither Trump nor Obamma are fleeing the country

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If President Trump has any evidence that the past President illegally tapped his phone, he has a responsibility to turn over such evidence to the proper bodies, and actually hold a public press conference and explain it to the american people.


TO make such serious accusations in a public forum and then tell these agencies to go out and see if they can find evidence, while saying you have it is simply

dillywho 03-08-2017 04:42 PM

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You can't yell fire in a theater and you can't accuse peole without documentation, it's called libel. I stand by my post.

That is your opinion, as is your right to it.

Why, then, is it ok for the media, Hollywood elites, malcontents, etc. to say the things they say against President Trump, his family, his spokesperson, etc. without documentation? Why was it ok for Hillary and then-President Obama to say the things they say/have said about President Trump without "documentation". There is plenty said on here in both directions, past and present that, according to you, would be libel. Why is that ok? As someone else pointed out, why do you get to have your opinion, yes opinion, without documentation, yet you demand it of others who differ? Sorry, but that door doesn't swing just one way.

cologal 03-08-2017 04:53 PM

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While the scarecrow was fooled, Toto was not fooled by the curtain...this has nothing to do with diversion as that would not be a sustainable ploy.

You are making an assumption when you say there is no evidence, and it has to go through the process before we will know what evidence there is, or is not.

Neither Trump nor Obamma are fleeing the country

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I'm going with Clapper.... he says there was none on his watch! And that fact that none has been forthcoming since the early morning tweets! If he had the goods I think we would already know about it!

How about a small wager? Cup of Starbucks for me or Dunkin for you?

dirtbanker 03-08-2017 09:48 PM

Your on!

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cologal 03-08-2017 11:06 PM

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Your on!

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Great!!!

Don Baldwin 03-09-2017 08:01 AM

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That is your opinion, as is your right to it.

Why, then, is it ok for the media, Hollywood elites, malcontents, etc. to say the things they say against President Trump, his family, his spokesperson, etc. without documentation? Why was it ok for Hillary and then-President Obama to say the things they say/have said about President Trump without "documentation". There is plenty said on here in both directions, past and present that, according to you, would be libel. Why is that ok? As someone else pointed out, why do you get to have your opinion, yes opinion, without documentation, yet you demand it of others who differ? Sorry, but that door doesn't swing just one way.

They are "public figures"...there are different rules for them. That's why Trump can't sue everyone who says something he thinks is false. But a private citizen can.

Public figures are open to criticism. They CAN sue...don't get me wrong. But it's just not worth it...and it would open them up to investigation...and they DON'T want that...because just about all "public figures" have things to hide.

dillywho 03-09-2017 01:29 PM

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They are "public figures"...there are different rules for them. That's why Trump can't sue everyone who says something he thinks is false. But a private citizen can.

Public figures are open to criticism. They CAN sue...don't get me wrong. But it's just not worth it...and it would open them up to investigation...and they DON'T want that...because just about all "public figures" have things to hide.

OK, I'll give you the part about "public figures". You still, however, did not address the last question as to why it is ok for you to put your opinion our there without having to provide "documentation", while demanding that others provide it.


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