Too many people just want to stay alive.

Get over Obama and Hillary----move on. GOOD GRIEF!!

:1rotfl:

The right is really pizzed that Snopes/Fact or Fiction/PolitiFact/Etc. exist...because they can no longer get away with lying. :D

Here's a link to the best 6 fact checking sites (which includes Snopes ;) )...that you will want to make sure you avoid. :1rotfl:

The 6 Best Political Fact-Checking Sites on the Internet


Now show us a legitimate site where you saw Snopes had been... "proved wrong a good percentage of the time."

We'll wait. :popcorn:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

Put the link's on here, you have them at your finger tips, and they have to be credible, no trump quotes.

A lot of words that say nothing, . You have just made a lot of accusations, where is you documentation

What a lot of crap
 

re: Libel
The law is quite different when it comes to a,"Public Figure," Also, freedom of the press gives news reporters quite a lot of latitude.
re: PROOF
The Obama folks went for court permission not once but twice. The first time it was not granted-very unusual. Perhaps, like Trump's immigration restriction, the second time the request was rewritten and it was granted.
Does anyone either a democrat or a republican believe they had the right to clandestinely listen in AND THEY DID NOT USE IT???????? The right to listen in would be limited BUT, since the conversations are not controlled, you would of course hear things not authorized.

This past election
 

On one side we had the democrats-people like Obama, the Clintons and Sorros. There view is for a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT with a view that the US should pay the bills for the rest of the world.

On both sides-EVEN THE PROGRESSIVE, SOCIALIST, LIBERALS
see that UNCLE SAM also known as the American TAXPAYER is busted. Our national debt is TWENTY TRILLION DOLLARS. Our infrastructure is in desperate need of repairs. We admire rapid rail transit in Europe and Japan while our rail system is 1940-1950 vintage. Our air transport is jet planes landing in airports that were designed and built in the 1950's. They have been patched and pieced together.

Our education system-well we score number 39 out of 50.
Our healthcare system-on other threads our people are bitching about that.

All that needs to be done, all we want to be done, all we wish to be done-COSTS MONEY.

What Obama, the Clinton gang, and Sorros want is not charity-IT IS AMERICAN SUICIDE.

However, vicious, REALITY is we simply cannot afford to pay for the evils in the world.

TRUMP who I voted for says if it is not good for the US go stuff it.

For the liberals, if you want to give YOUR MONEY to whatever charity you want to support, you have that right. When you tell me I should give my money, we should spend our money-THAT IS THE REASON WE VOTED FOR TRUMP.

You don't even understand this entire thing.

There are 2 ways to get a wiretap. Either FISA or criminal.

In both cases, you must go before a judge and offer sufficient evidence to allow it.

NO President or any other individual can get a wiretap.

From reports, two efforts to get a wiretap. First was denied, second one was okayed.

THIS is what President Trump tweeted.

"Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!"

FOLLOWED BY

"Is it legal for a sitting President to be "wire tapping" a race for president prior to an election? Turned down by court earlier. A NEW LOW!


FOLLOWED BY

"How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!

Here is the problem.

A sitting President accusing his predecessor of a felony.

Where did Trump get the basis to say..just found out ?

One of his conspiracy theory websites has hinted at this the night before, and Trump pretty much just repeated it as an accusation.

When you speak of libel, it is the consensus that should the info bear out that Trump simply made this up, Obama may have a strong libel case against him.

This is typical Trump behavior, and there is a story out that says he went out and played golf, and when he returned he admitted he may have gone to far. The response finally from the WH was about all they could do because this is fraught with many legal problems.

A sitting President accusing the past president of such a felony is so incredibly immature and morally corrupt, it defies imagination.

As President, if he actually knew such a thing...he should have had a press conference and laid out the details for all America. As it was, he easily could have made one call and verified it in 2 minutes.

I predict this is FAR from over.

If he was wiretapped there was just cause to do it, and that is a problem.

If he was not, it is bizarre behavior for not just a President, but any human being to make such a charge.

This is not over.

One source...

"President Donald Trump's newest pivot might be his way to divert attention from his own Russia troubles by leveling a Watergate-level conspiracy allegation at former President Barack Obama.

But this latest assertion that Obama ordered illegal surveillance of Trump Tower during the 2016 election — tweeted without evidence — could get the president into some legal hot water.

Although the law provides a great deal of leeway for political speech, that protection is not all encompassing. And because of the way Trump has leveled unsubstantiated accusations at Obama, he may have libeled his predecessor.

Analysis: Does Obama Have Grounds to Sue Trump for Libel? - NBC News

I'm starting to like you more and more...

I can tell you the reason we've fallen to #39 is the increasing minority population. As white went from 90% to the current 49%...we've dropped...from #1 in the 50s to #39 today.

WHY do we keep up the equality insanity as it destroys us?

First of all, Trump never even implied the words you put in his mouth.

Secondly, and most importantly, he has ZERO CONTROL OVER ANY SPENDING....ZERO.

That is controlled by congress. You people are so hung up on Clinton/Obama/Soros, you lose all touch with reality.

Get with the present...we have problems and they are not it.

From your posts
 

i do not want you to like me
i do not want to have anything to do with your crap.

You mean the truth...you don't want to have anything to do with the truth?

Like Marsha...you get the facts right, but often the REASON wrong.

They keep the equality lies going because IF the truth was finally accepted...the blacks would go right back to slave status...everywhere. They're the bottom socially and financially EVERYWHERE they live...no matter the country or continent...blacks are at the bottom. The more blacks, the lower the standard of living and higher the violence..always.

You really should listen to me susie...I'll give you the rest...you're half way to enlightenment...don't quit now!

You have proof of what? That the Clinton Foundation received a donation from Russia? But was it PAY FOR PLAY that is the rub! I did my reserch SNOPES deamed it FALSE.

What role did Hillary play in aproving the with Russia. Seems to me that Rex Tillerson has more PAY for PLAY issues than Hillary. Right now the oil off the coast can't be drilled due to the sanctions but if they are lifted then Katy bar the door. How much money does Trump have in that deal?

OMG NOT the ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT AGAIN? You keep beating the same old horse Soros.....How about your Koch Brothers and what they fund?

You he men are so afraid go a bunch of women in pink hats.