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Guest 07-05-2015 08:32 AM

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You lost me, and I am sure others, when you mention Fox news. THAT is a dead giveaway as to how you work. You have seriously been indoctrinated and are unable to discuss facts because as all of those who seem to mention that, you have no idea of what is happening and have been told that going after a network is how to do it. No network changes the news...it is not hidden. Using a network to make your point is a bit desperate and obvious.

Not a defense of Fox by any means but what ever you think a news network has to do with ANYTHING is beyond me.

Secondly, if you have children or grandchildren, I suggest you do some investigation on where the Affordable Care Act is going to take our states and the federal budget in the future....I am sure you are aware it has not all kicked in as of yet.

Too late to repeal but it needs some serious work to save future disaster.

If you do not have children or grandchildren and do not care, sorry.

It has been said, and proven and not on Fox news, that the Democratic party is going so far left and then accusing the Republicans of going right. YES..the distance between them is greater but only one party is moving.

I suggest strongly that you read about your candidates..the two major ones and their radical backgrounds and their sharp turn left. Might help you a bit.

Sanders is so very very far left, he does not even call himself a democrat because they are not liberal enough and as far left as Clinton WAS, she is running left after him. You need to change those glasses

I'm indoctrinated. Now, that is funny. The only news program that I watch is Morning Joe. Joe Scarborough certainly is a flaming liberal. When Mika Brzezinski opens her mouth, I hit the mute button. She has nothing to offer.

You are obviously a Fox News fanatic. Viewers don't have to defend the "fair and balanced" network, because they don't watch anything else. They are all living in a bubble. They take everything they say as gospel. It would be like criticizing the Vatican. You go straight to hell.

The Five is a perfect example of what Fox thinks "fair and balanced" is. Four Republicans and one Democrat. I guess dividing by two is a problem too hard to solve.

You have no idea what Fox News has to do with anything. Republicans are going there to reinforce their own beliefs. They are not going there for news. Criticize, condemn, and complain is all that they do. They all work off the same script, and use the same buzz words. They are preprogramed before they go on the air. That is not news. You want to see how bad they are look up "Fox News hypocrisy" on the internet. We know that is not going to happen.

The Republicans haven't moved further to the right. What world have you been in since the birth of the Tea Party? The Republicans have moved so far to the right that they are off the grid. Joe Scarborough is a conservative Republican, and he is being called a RINO. Please give the Republican nomination to Ted Cruz. Bozo, the clown, could beat him.

Peoples beliefs never change over time. Then, how do you explain gay marriage? What she did in college has little to nothing to do what she thinks now. She is running on her husband's name. Rule one in politics, do anything or say anything to get elected. Then run for reelection on your record. How could any woman stay with her husband after being publically embarrassed as she was? She needs his name.

You want to fix health care, then go to single payer. Socialism! It costs the government 4 cents to process a claim and 24 cents for the insurance companies. These numbers may have changed recently. Who cares what you call it? You can reduce cost of insurance by 20% by going single payer. Who the hell are you kidding to think competition by insurance companies will reduce costs? All you are doing guaranteeing price fixing.

Guest 07-05-2015 09:32 AM

What about Ben Carson? Definitely a smart man and very talented doctor.

How would he do as President?

Guest 07-05-2015 11:40 AM

I am indoctrinated. That's too funny. The only National news program I watch is Morning Joe. Joe Scarborough is a conservative Republican, or so he thinks. When Mika Brzezinski opens her mouth, I hit the mute button. She is a flaming liberal that only wants to talk about women's issues.

The statement that a find truly unbelievable is only one party has moved, and it's the Democratic party. Where have you been since the Tea Party has sprung into existence? They have pushed the Republicans so far to the right that they are off the grid. They call Scarborough, a conservative from the Florida Panhandle, a RINO. The Tea Party is a new animal. It is one that eats it's own. If the Republican haven't moved far right, please explain Eric Cantor losing his seat. Why are all the Republican elected officials catering to the Tea Party? Answer is, because they vote.

The Fox National News organization is a problem. Whether you want to hear it or not. Republicans aren't going there for news. They are going there to confirm their own beliefs. Not all Republican fall into this category, but the majority certainly live the Fox News bubble.

"Fair and Balanced!" The Five is a perfect example of fair and balanced. It is four Republicans and one Democrat. I guess dividing by two is a math problem that is too hard to solve for the bleached blond network. You want to see hypocrisy at its finest goggle FOX News Hypocrisy. You wouldn't like what you see, that is if you have an open mind.

Concerning the ACA, Republicans are saying it's a disaster right now, and not twenty years from now, but they never back it up with facts. You want to fix health care then go single payer. Socialism! There will be no competition between insurance companies. They will fix the rates. It costs the government four cents to process a claim, and insurance companies twenty four cents. The more mistakes they make; the more money they make (cost plus). Sometimes sanity should replace Capitalism.

Bernie Sanders is pulling a George McGovern. You go to places you know will bring a big crowd. It will give the appearance that you have a real chance to become president. McGovern keep coming back to Mass. every time he wanted to feel good about his chances. He always drew a crowd of 50,000 to 100,000. Surprise! Surprise! Mass. is the only state that he won.

The first rule in politics is say anything or do anything to get elected. Then, run for reelection on your record. The only reason Hillary stayed with Clinton was the name Clinton. Her political future was more important to her than the national embracement she had to endure due to Bill's idea of a coffee break.

Guest 07-11-2015 10:53 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1082457)
Maybe just maybe, Democrat governors didn't have to turn their states around like Republican governors did. What does turning your state mean cutting every program that help the poor, and lower middle class?

I am an independent. However, the Republicans have gone so far to the right that a moderate can't even consider voting for them. How can that be good for the Republican party?

I am not fond of Hillary. If a Republican governor that accepted Medicaid funds under the Affordable Care Act gets the nomination, I will vote for him. You know that governor has the best interest of his citizens in mind; rather than what his party thinks.

You want to talk about lazy people try people that only listen to Fox News. Those people aren't looking for both sides of an argument. They are looking for



what passes for news that confirms their warped view of the government as it exists today. Someone is going to have to turn this road to nowhere around. That means talking to the other party. You know the good old days of Reagan, and O'Neil.

Your liberal democrat, don't try to hide behind indenpendent. You are indoctrinated by abc, cbs, nbc, public school, and probably college indoctrinated also. you will not and can not think on your own. Keep drinking the koolaid. Your stupid comment about governors show your liberal intent.

Guest 07-12-2015 05:41 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1082461)
You lost me, and I am sure others, when you mention Fox news. THAT is a dead giveaway as to how you work. You have seriously been indoctrinated and are unable to discuss facts because as all of those who seem to mention that, you have no idea of what is happening and have been told that going after a network is how to do it. No network changes the news...it is not hidden. Using a network to make your point is a bit desperate and obvious.

Not a defense of Fox by any means but what ever you think a news network has to do with ANYTHING is beyond me.

Secondly, if you have children or grandchildren, I suggest you do some investigation on where the Affordable Care Act is going to take our states and the federal budget in the future....I am sure you are aware it has not all kicked in as of yet.

Too late to repeal but it needs some serious work to save future disaster.

If you do not have children or grandchildren and do not care, sorry.

It has been said, and proven and not on Fox news, that the Democratic party is going so far left and then accusing the Republicans of going right. YES..the distance between them is greater but only one party is moving.

I suggest strongly that you read about your candidates..the two major ones and their radical backgrounds and their sharp turn left. Might help you a bit.

Sanders is so very very far left, he does not even call himself a democrat because they are not liberal enough and as far left as Clinton WAS, she is running left after him. You need to change those glasses

Dear Guest: I continue to hear the combination of Fox News and indoctrination in the same sentence which the speaker(you in this case) utilizes to denigrate both Fox News and its viewer. This appears to me to be a straw man argument. It also assumes that the Fox viewer is incapable of free thinking. If you watched Fox News you would have noted that it contains some of the best journalist around, some of whom work for the Wall Street Journal.. You would also note spirited debate between these various journalist, their guests etc.

While I dislike Bill O'Reilly's self importance demeanor one must admit he spares no democrat or republican embarassment. His points are often spot on. Megan Kelly's legal background makes her an excellent investigative journalist who is not afraid to ask the tough questions. Also excellent journalist Bret Hume and Bret Baer and let us not for the very liberal Mike Wallace's son. The Five represents both progressive and conservative views.

Could it be that Fox News is the most watched because it offers viewers a fair and balanced accounting of Washington, et al. Can it be that Fox viewers are looking for objective assessments? Does agreement connote only indoctrination or does agreement signify that what Fox reports viewers view as having the ring of truth?

Why is it, do you suppose that viewers are shunning CNN MSNBC, NBC , CBS ABC ? Why is it these stations spend more time discussing celebrities then covering Washington scandals and yet will spend days upon days beating up on conservatives?

I agree that in the field of journalism bias leaks through but we also know that the news media has always had a very liberal bent and up until Fox News came on the scene could get away with it without notice. Its why Obama the most powerful man in the world breaks presidential protocol and stoops so low as to strike out at Fox. Its like the head of a corporation picking on a file clerk in his corporation

The topic at hand is who against Clinton. I believe it is still too early to tell.

I was sent a long quiz and your answers and the weight of those answers told you who your likely choice would be. In my case 96% of my answers tracked with Marco Rubio and then the survey went down the line. The candidate not on my survey was Jeb Bush. Having said that my final decision will occur when I enter the poling booth because I want to ensure to myself that I am making my very best choice because this is a pivotal point for our nation

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 07-12-2015 07:30 AM

Is that Joe Biden coming into view in the rear view mirror.

More qualified than Clinton without a doubt......he has more time in the WH as an executive.....VS clinton's stint as ist lady.

His gaffes are far more acceptable than questionable ethics and dishonesty.

Is Joe the 2016 dark horse? Certainly imminently more qualified than the 2008 dark horse.

He is by far......WAY, WAY by far the more human, likeable person than Clinton or Obama.

Do I hear Run-Joe-Run chanting in the back ground?

Guest 07-12-2015 07:58 AM

It remains so funny that the Regressives are so scared of a candidacy of Hillary that they are trying to stir up 2008, Biden, and Sanders.

The Regressives KNOW that with Hillary running, ANY REGRESSIVE candidate would be blown out of the water and it WILL be another Democratic win for president.

Demographics, people, demographics! The Democratics have the demographics to win and Hamster Hair is guaranteeing that!

Guest 07-12-2015 08:35 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1085811)
It remains so funny that the Regressives are so scared of a candidacy of Hillary that they are trying to stir up 2008, Biden, and Sanders.

The Regressives KNOW that with Hillary running, ANY REGRESSIVE candidate would be blown out of the water and it WILL be another Democratic win for president.

Demographics, people, demographics! The Democratics have the demographics to win and Hamster Hair is guaranteeing that!

I am intrigued by your continued certainty of a Clinton win. The reason being is that I have yet to find one person either Republican or Democrat that is willing to vote for her. In my family, work circle, friends, etc, I hang with some pretty mixed company, politically, and I am just not seeing what you're putting down here. Now, not to say that a Democrat will not win - I'm just not seeing the enthusiasm for Hillary. In fact, I'm seeing genuine dislike for her as a person - black, white, female, male, young and old - this is not a homogeneous group here.

Guest 07-12-2015 09:23 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1085811)
It remains so funny that the Regressives are so scared of a candidacy of Hillary that they are trying to stir up 2008, Biden, and Sanders.

The Regressives KNOW that with Hillary running, ANY REGRESSIVE candidate would be blown out of the water and it WILL be another Democratic win for president.

Demographics, people, demographics! The Democratics have the demographics to win and Hamster Hair is guaranteeing that!

Just cut the party talking points BS and for once just answer the question.
Is it not obvious that Joe Biden is the better candidate no matter how you slice it. And the woman female argument does not fly because women will stand by an ethical-honest man long before they do a questionable character and doubtful ethics women.

Let's see you drop the script and answer the question.

Guest 07-12-2015 10:30 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1085861)
Just cut the party talking points BS and for once just answer the question.
Is it not obvious that Joe Biden is the better candidate no matter how you slice it. And the woman female argument does not fly because women will stand by an ethical-honest man long before they do a questionable character and doubtful ethics women.

Let's see you drop the script and answer the question.


No it is not obvious that Joe Biden is the better candidate as demonstrated by ALL the polling data. Everybody loves Joe, and he should be VP for life, but women have been waiting 239 years to have a female president and won't wait any longer.

Some are forgetting that Hillary Clinton got 18 million votes in the 2008 primary and came in a very close second to Barack Obama, who won two elections with over 50% of the popular vote. Something no one has done since Ike.

Women rallied behind Obama and put him over the top when he defeated Clinton in 2008 and have been waiting patiently for eight years. Worry more about your front runner, Donald Trump, and who he will pi$$ off next.

Guest 07-12-2015 11:05 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1085899)
No it is not obvious that Joe Biden is the better candidate as demonstrated by ALL the polling data. Everybody loves Joe, and he should be VP for life, but women have been waiting 239 years to have a female president and won't wait any longer.

Some are forgetting that Hillary Clinton got 18 million votes in the 2008 primary and came in a very close second to Barack Obama, who won two elections with over 50% of the popular vote. Something no one has done since Ike.

Women rallied behind Obama and put him over the top when he defeated Clinton in 2008 and have been waiting patiently for eight years. Worry more about your front runner, Donald Trump, and who he will pi$$ off next.

These posts get more humorous by the day.

Thought about these posters this week when our military was speaking and saying how Russia was the greatest threat to the USA, and recalling how Romney was mocked on this forum as "stuck in the fifties" and actually made fun of him on here.

It seems to be typical of some, and they overrun the logical sane liberal posters, to call people names and instead of worrying about issues, they worry about votes. They have the right to post like this, but sometimes we need to remind them just how WRONG they can be. It happens when vitrol overtakes any sanity.

Guest 07-12-2015 11:11 AM

I am laughing at you. I need to change my glass. You need to post standing up. God, in his infinite wisdom, put a button on the seat of some people pants. When they sit down, their brain shuts off. We need to know, if people are posting with a fully functional brain.

Proven that the Republican haven't moved to the right, but stayed moderate/conservative. What the hell was this moron looking at? How many moderate/conservative have lost their seats to the Tea Party? Start with Eric Cantor. Boehner won't even put bills on the floor, if they don't have Tea Party support.

The Republican candidates are all saying Obamacare is a disaster right now, and not twenty years from now. None have put anything forward, or said what parts of the law are a disaster. You think that health insurance companies are going to lose 7 million customers and not raise prices through the roof?

I only watch Morning Joe. You know Joe Scarborough, who is being called a RINO, but the Republicans haven't moved to the right. Hell no. It been proven. You get both sides of an argument.

I certainly was college indoctrinated. Bentley College of Accounting and Finance is the birth place of the far left movement toward socialism.

My comments above governors was stupid, but I haven't seen where you mentioned one as being in need of help.

Guest 07-12-2015 11:37 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1085899)
No it is not obvious that Joe Biden is the better candidate as demonstrated by ALL the polling data. Everybody loves Joe, and he should be VP for life, but women have been waiting 239 years to have a female president and won't wait any longer.

Some are forgetting that Hillary Clinton got 18 million votes in the 2008 primary and came in a very close second to Barack Obama, who won two elections with over 50% of the popular vote. Something no one has done since Ike.

Women rallied behind Obama and put him over the top when he defeated Clinton in 2008 and have been waiting patiently for eight years. Worry more about your front runner, Donald Trump, and who he will pi$$ off next.

A LOT has changed since 2008 - I think you may find this to be true at election time in 2016.

Guest 07-12-2015 12:21 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1085899)
No it is not obvious that Joe Biden is the better candidate as demonstrated by ALL the polling data. Everybody loves Joe, and he should be VP for life, but women have been waiting 239 years to have a female president and won't wait any longer.

Some are forgetting that Hillary Clinton got 18 million votes in the 2008 primary and came in a very close second to Barack Obama, who won two elections with over 50% of the popular vote. Something no one has done since Ike.

Women rallied behind Obama and put him over the top when he defeated Clinton in 2008 and have been waiting patiently for eight years. Worry more about your front runner, Donald Trump, and who he will pi$$ off next.

You did not answer the question.

Yes Joe Biden is the obvious better, more qualified, more ethical, more liked candidate fot POTUS.

What you stated was that the women of the USA, their first priority is to get a woman into the WH and it does not matter to the women of America whther she is ethical or honest.

You are demeaning all the democratic women of the USA when you state they will back her no matter what she has and has not done and is not the better candidate.

Really? You are drinking way too much kool aide along with your own bath water.

The polls are BS and the ones that tell you what you want to hear are the worst. They were designed to come out that way.

I will help you out. Joe Biden no matter what anybody dislikes about him is a far superior candidate that Clinton. That is the answer to the question asked.

To berate the women of America and state the polls said so is just too funny for words.

Pretty sad state of affairs for you and any others that will take a liar and a cheat and a dishonest character with ethics of question....JUST BECAUSE SHE IS A WOMAN!!!!!!!!

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Guest 07-12-2015 12:46 PM

The subject of the thread has not even been broached yet. It was WHO in the REGRESSIVES will be her opponent.

It will not be Trump the Chump, will it?

Certainly not Ben or Carly.

Santorum is a guaranteed loser. Perry is a guaranteed loser. Walker is too conservative. Bush is the only possible candidate.

Any other ideas?


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