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Guest 07-13-2015 08:00 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1086073)
Yes, it has been shown once again that the Republicans are running scared of Hillary Clinton.

I heard on Fox News this afternoon that the Republicans are spending over a BILLION dollars in the next few months to "villify" Hillary Clinton. This will be a massive influx of negative tv ads and the ever popular robo-calls.

Yes, this was on Fox News today (Sunday, around 4 pm).

Villify was their wording, not mine.

I don't think anyone has to do that for her. She does a pretty good job doing that for herself.

Guest 07-13-2015 08:54 AM

Who started the war between the parties? McConnell and the Republicans made it clear from day one their goal was to make Obama a one term president. Sure, that is always the goal of the opposing party. No one has taken it to the level that McConnell, the filibuster king, did. The economy was in a free fall caused by "W", and the Republicans fought everything that Obama was doing to try to recover. There is no excuse for that. I have no problem with "W". He was a well intentioned president, who got taken to the cleaners by his closest advisors, and 9/11.

If you didn't goggle "Fox News hypocrisy", please do. Then, tell me whose hands gets caught in the cookie jar over and over. When you attack him on everything, you are bound to get some things right. When you do, blow it out of proportion, and state that his misrepresentation that you found is representative everything this president does, and will do.

Age bias? I am missing something here. I am over 65. I also stated that the youth of this country are up with the current state of Washington, and not engaged in the news. So, what is the disagreement?

Is the only disagreement that we have about The Five is the Democrat gets a say in the format? So everything else I said rings true. So, The Five is not "fair and balanced". I don't have a problem with what The Five is doing. One Democrat is better than none. I have a real problem with anyone calling Fox News (national) "fair and balanced".

Fox News leans toward the Republican party. Is there a dispute there? The liberal press calls Fox News, the mouth piece of the Republican party. That is over the top. However, Fox News calling themselves "fair and balanced" is also over the top. That statement from Fox News is a downright lie. Repeating a lie over and over doesn't turn it magically into the truth.

Who determines what the level of a scandal is? The real IRS scandal is that the IRS is not allowed to enforce the law concerning political charitable organizations 501(c)06. The law states these organizations are not allowed to preform any political actions. The IRS commissioner wants to enforce the law as written. Congress won't let him.

Concerning Hillary emails concerning Benghazi, she should have let an independent group look into her mails. Then gone over with this group what was personal and what was not. Any dispute should have gone to a neutral person. She should have seen what was coming from the fifth Benghazi congressional hearing. There is no way in hell she should have given all of her emails to Trey Gowdy. She has been running for president forever. Anything and everyone she mailed concerning her run, would have found its way to her Republican opponent. Talk about an unfair advantage, nothing like having your opponents playbook.

Maybe just maybe there is no smoking gun. You can look forever for something that isn't there, but claim that it just well hidden. We will find it even if it takes the next two presidential elections to locate it. This assumes she wins in 2016. Come on John Kasich, please announce. As I stated before, a Republican governor that accepted Medicaid under ACA will get my vote. This is a clear indication that he puts people over party.

I apologize to everyone here for getting off subject. I did discuss the subject, but not at great length.

Guest 07-13-2015 09:24 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1086317)
Who started the war between the parties? McConnell and the Republicans made it clear from day one their goal was to make Obama a one term president. Sure, that is always the goal of the opposing party. No one has taken it to the level that McConnell, the filibuster king, did. The economy was in a free fall caused by "W", and the Republicans fought everything that Obama was doing to try to recover. There is no excuse for that. I have no problem with "W". He was a well intentioned president, who got taken to the cleaners by his closest advisors, and 9/11.

If you didn't goggle "Fox News hypocrisy", please do. Then, tell me whose hands gets caught in the cookie jar over and over. When you attack him on everything, you are bound to get some things right. When you do, blow it out of proportion, and state that his misrepresentation that you found is representative everything this president does, and will do.

Age bias? I am missing something here. I am over 65. I also stated that the youth of this country are up with the current state of Washington, and not engaged in the news. So, what is the disagreement?

Is the only disagreement that we have about The Five is the Democrat gets a say in the format? So everything else I said rings true. So, The Five is not "fair and balanced". I don't have a problem with what The Five is doing. One Democrat is better than none. I have a real problem with anyone calling Fox News (national) "fair and balanced".

Fox News leans toward the Republican party. Is there a dispute there? The liberal press calls Fox News, the mouth piece of the Republican party. That is over the top. However, Fox News calling themselves "fair and balanced" is also over the top. That statement from Fox News is a downright lie. Repeating a lie over and over doesn't turn it magically into the truth.

Who determines what the level of a scandal is? The real IRS scandal is that the IRS is not allowed to enforce the law concerning political charitable organizations 501(c)06. The law states these organizations are not allowed to preform any political actions. The IRS commissioner wants to enforce the law as written. Congress won't let him.

Concerning Hillary emails concerning Benghazi, she should have let an independent group look into her mails. Then gone over with this group what was personal and what was not. Any dispute should have gone to a neutral person. She should have seen what was coming from the fifth Benghazi congressional hearing. There is no way in hell she should have given all of her emails to Trey Gowdy. She has been running for president forever. Anything and everyone she mailed concerning her run, would have found its way to her Republican opponent. Talk about an unfair advantage, nothing like having your opponents playbook.

Maybe just maybe there is no smoking gun. You can look forever for something that isn't there, but claim that it just well hidden. We will find it even if it takes the next two presidential elections to locate it. This assumes she wins in 2016. Come on John Kasich, please announce. As I stated before, a Republican governor that accepted Medicaid under ACA will get my vote. This is a clear indication that he puts people over party.

I apologize to everyone here for getting off subject. I did discuss the subject, but not at great length.

I did the GOOGLE search you recommended, and I would not even reference any of the links provided. As well I googled LIBERAL NEWS HYPOCRISY and got the same thing; I would never consider using them as links on ANYTHING.

In both searches the results are so far left or right, that who would even read them. MEDIA MATTERS for example was set up EXCLUSIVELY AND ONLY to watch every word on Fox.

Guest 07-13-2015 09:43 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1086317)
Who started the war between the parties? McConnell and the Republicans made it clear from day one their goal was to make Obama a one term president. Sure, that is always the goal of the opposing party. No one has taken it to the level that McConnell, the filibuster king, did. The economy was in a free fall caused by "W", and the Republicans fought everything that Obama was doing to try to recover. There is no excuse for that. I have no problem with "W". He was a well intentioned president, who got taken to the cleaners by his closest advisors, and 9/11.

If you didn't goggle "Fox News hypocrisy", please do. Then, tell me whose hands gets caught in the cookie jar over and over. When you attack him on everything, you are bound to get some things right. When you do, blow it out of proportion, and state that his misrepresentation that you found is representative everything this president does, and will do.

Age bias? I am missing something here. I am over 65. I also stated that the youth of this country are up with the current state of Washington, and not engaged in the news. So, what is the disagreement?

Is the only disagreement that we have about The Five is the Democrat gets a say in the format? So everything else I said rings true. So, The Five is not "fair and balanced". I don't have a problem with what The Five is doing. One Democrat is better than none. I have a real problem with anyone calling Fox News (national) "fair and balanced".

Fox News leans toward the Republican party. Is there a dispute there? The liberal press calls Fox News, the mouth piece of the Republican party. That is over the top. However, Fox News calling themselves "fair and balanced" is also over the top. That statement from Fox News is a downright lie. Repeating a lie over and over doesn't turn it magically into the truth.

Who determines what the level of a scandal is? The real IRS scandal is that the IRS is not allowed to enforce the law concerning political charitable organizations 501(c)06. The law states these organizations are not allowed to preform any political actions. The IRS commissioner wants to enforce the law as written. Congress won't let him.

Concerning Hillary emails concerning Benghazi, she should have let an independent group look into her mails. Then gone over with this group what was personal and what was not. Any dispute should have gone to a neutral person. She should have seen what was coming from the fifth Benghazi congressional hearing. There is no way in hell she should have given all of her emails to Trey Gowdy. She has been running for president forever. Anything and everyone she mailed concerning her run, would have found its way to her Republican opponent. Talk about an unfair advantage, nothing like having your opponents playbook.

Maybe just maybe there is no smoking gun. You can look forever for something that isn't there, but claim that it just well hidden. We will find it even if it takes the next two presidential elections to locate it. This assumes she wins in 2016. Come on John Kasich, please announce. As I stated before, a Republican governor that accepted Medicaid under ACA will get my vote. This is a clear indication that he puts people over party.

I apologize to everyone here for getting off subject. I did discuss the subject, but not at great length.

You also seem to have trouble with context and as with many, HISTORY.

McConnell comments.......

"The Facts

McConnell made his remarks in an interview that appeared in the National Journal on Oct. 23, 2010 — nearly two years after Obama was elected president. The interview took place on the eve the of the midterm elections. The interview is relatively short, so we will print it in its entirety, with key portions highlighted.


When did McConnell say he wanted to make Obama a

I realize context and actual truth are important to you so thought I might point this out. Would you like quotes from Democrats on the eve of off year elections to balance it all out ?

He did not make that clear from day one as you state.

Guest 07-13-2015 09:47 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1086359)
You also seem to have trouble with context and as with many, HISTORY.

McConnell comments.......

"The Facts

McConnell made his remarks in an interview that appeared in the National Journal on Oct. 23, 2010 — nearly two years after Obama was elected president. The interview took place on the eve the of the midterm elections. The interview is relatively short, so we will print it in its entirety, with key portions highlighted.


When did McConnell say he wanted to make Obama a

I realize context and actual truth are important to you so thought I might point this out. Would you like quotes from Democrats on the eve of off year elections to balance it all out ?

He did not make that clear from day one as you state.


I forgot to add the summary from that Washington Post piece......

" The Pinocchio Test

There is no doubt that McConnell said he wanted to make Obama a one-term president. But he did not say it at the start of Obama’s term; instead, he made his comments at the midpoint, after Obama had enacted many of his preferred policies.

Perhaps, in Obama’s memory, McConnell was always uncooperative. But that does not give him and other Democrats the license to rearrange the chronology to suit the party’s talking points.

Two Pinocchios


When did McConnell say he wanted to make Obama a

Guest 07-13-2015 09:52 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1086317)
Who started the war between the parties? McConnell and the Republicans made it clear from day one their goal was to make Obama a one term president. Sure, that is always the goal of the opposing party. No one has taken it to the level that McConnell, the filibuster king, did. The economy was in a free fall caused by "W", and the Republicans fought everything that Obama was doing to try to recover. There is no excuse for that. I have no problem with "W". He was a well intentioned president, who got taken to the cleaners by his closest advisors, and 9/11.

If you didn't goggle "Fox News hypocrisy", please do. Then, tell me whose hands gets caught in the cookie jar over and over. When you attack him on everything, you are bound to get some things right. When you do, blow it out of proportion, and state that his misrepresentation that you found is representative everything this president does, and will do.

Age bias? I am missing something here. I am over 65. I also stated that the youth of this country are up with the current state of Washington, and not engaged in the news. So, what is the disagreement?

Is the only disagreement that we have about The Five is the Democrat gets a say in the format? So everything else I said rings true. So, The Five is not "fair and balanced". I don't have a problem with what The Five is doing. One Democrat is better than none. I have a real problem with anyone calling Fox News (national) "fair and balanced".

Fox News leans toward the Republican party. Is there a dispute there? The liberal press calls Fox News, the mouth piece of the Republican party. That is over the top. However, Fox News calling themselves "fair and balanced" is also over the top. That statement from Fox News is a downright lie. Repeating a lie over and over doesn't turn it magically into the truth.

Who determines what the level of a scandal is? The real IRS scandal is that the IRS is not allowed to enforce the law concerning political charitable organizations 501(c)06. The law states these organizations are not allowed to preform any political actions. The IRS commissioner wants to enforce the law as written. Congress won't let him.

Concerning Hillary emails concerning Benghazi, she should have let an independent group look into her mails. Then gone over with this group what was personal and what was not. Any dispute should have gone to a neutral person. She should have seen what was coming from the fifth Benghazi congressional hearing. There is no way in hell she should have given all of her emails to Trey Gowdy. She has been running for president forever. Anything and everyone she mailed concerning her run, would have found its way to her Republican opponent. Talk about an unfair advantage, nothing like having your opponents playbook.

Maybe just maybe there is no smoking gun. You can look forever for something that isn't there, but claim that it just well hidden. We will find it even if it takes the next two presidential elections to locate it. This assumes she wins in 2016. Come on John Kasich, please announce. As I stated before, a Republican governor that accepted Medicaid under ACA will get my vote. This is a clear indication that he puts people over party.

I apologize to everyone here for getting off subject. I did discuss the subject, but not at great length.


Oh and since you have such an interest in such stuff you may find this interesting....this is from about a year ago but it fits for the entire time

"The U.S. Senate failed to advance another piece of popular bipartisan legislation late Monday, and the reason tells the real story of Washington gridlock in the current Congress. To wit, Harry Reid has essentially shut down the Senate as a place to debate and vote on policy.

The Majority Leader's strategy was once again on display as the Senate failed to get the 60 votes to move a popular energy efficiency bill co-sponsored by New Hampshire Democrat Jeanne Shaheen and Ohio Republican Rob Portman. Mr. Reid blamed the defeat on Republican partisanship. But the impasse really came down to Mr. Reid's blockade against amendments that might prove politically difficult for Democrats.


Harry Reid's Senate Blockade - WSJ

Guest 07-13-2015 09:56 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1086317)
Who started the war between the parties? McConnell and the Republicans made it clear from day one their goal was to make Obama a one term president. Sure, that is always the goal of the opposing party. No one has taken it to the level that McConnell, the filibuster king, did. The economy was in a free fall caused by "W", and the Republicans fought everything that Obama was doing to try to recover. There is no excuse for that. I have no problem with "W". He was a well intentioned president, who got taken to the cleaners by his closest advisors, and 9/11.

If you didn't goggle "Fox News hypocrisy", please do. Then, tell me whose hands gets caught in the cookie jar over and over. When you attack him on everything, you are bound to get some things right. When you do, blow it out of proportion, and state that his misrepresentation that you found is representative everything this president does, and will do.

Age bias? I am missing something here. I am over 65. I also stated that the youth of this country are up with the current state of Washington, and not engaged in the news. So, what is the disagreement?

Is the only disagreement that we have about The Five is the Democrat gets a say in the format? So everything else I said rings true. So, The Five is not "fair and balanced". I don't have a problem with what The Five is doing. One Democrat is better than none. I have a real problem with anyone calling Fox News (national) "fair and balanced".

Fox News leans toward the Republican party. Is there a dispute there? The liberal press calls Fox News, the mouth piece of the Republican party. That is over the top. However, Fox News calling themselves "fair and balanced" is also over the top. That statement from Fox News is a downright lie. Repeating a lie over and over doesn't turn it magically into the truth.

Who determines what the level of a scandal is? The real IRS scandal is that the IRS is not allowed to enforce the law concerning political charitable organizations 501(c)06. The law states these organizations are not allowed to preform any political actions. The IRS commissioner wants to enforce the law as written. Congress won't let him.

Concerning Hillary emails concerning Benghazi, she should have let an independent group look into her mails. Then gone over with this group what was personal and what was not. Any dispute should have gone to a neutral person. She should have seen what was coming from the fifth Benghazi congressional hearing. There is no way in hell she should have given all of her emails to Trey Gowdy. She has been running for president forever. Anything and everyone she mailed concerning her run, would have found its way to her Republican opponent. Talk about an unfair advantage, nothing like having your opponents playbook.

Maybe just maybe there is no smoking gun. You can look forever for something that isn't there, but claim that it just well hidden. We will find it even if it takes the next two presidential elections to locate it. This assumes she wins in 2016. Come on John Kasich, please announce. As I stated before, a Republican governor that accepted Medicaid under ACA will get my vote. This is a clear indication that he puts people over party.

I apologize to everyone here for getting off subject. I did discuss the subject, but not at great length.

I will assume that you trust CNN, thus I got this from them and it gives a bit of an overview on the IRS situation.........which you glossed over as business as usual

IRS Scandal Fast Facts - CNN.com

I will not post it until some resolve comes from it....however, once again we have lost emails and the gal in charge refuses to testify...nothing to hide here

Guest 07-13-2015 10:54 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1086359)
You also seem to have trouble with context and as with many, HISTORY.

McConnell comments.......

"The Facts

McConnell made his remarks in an interview that appeared in the National Journal on Oct. 23, 2010 — nearly two years after Obama was elected president. The interview took place on the eve the of the midterm elections. The interview is relatively short, so we will print it in its entirety, with key portions highlighted.


When did McConnell say he wanted to make Obama a

I realize context and actual truth are important to you so thought I might point this out. Would you like quotes from Democrats on the eve of off year elections to balance it all out ?

He did not make that clear from day one as you state.


McConnell made himself look like a jacka$$ saying his only goal was to make Obama a one-term president. Not only did he not accomplish his one and only goal, but Obama went on to win his second election with 51% of the popular vote, making him the only president to win back-to-back elections with over 50% of the popular vote since Eisenhower.

Guest 07-13-2015 11:21 AM

I didn't gloss over anything. Did the IRS target Tea Party groups? When you put the Tea Party target on your chest, someone is going to shoot at it. The IRS thinks that they are answerable to nobody. They don't have a gun in their hands. They have a B52 loaded with smart bombs.

The law concerning 501(c)4 political charitable groups dates back to the early 50's and states that these groups can perform no political advertising/actions. There is another IRS regulation concerning activity by political action groups. In the late 50's, that was changed to no more than 50% political activity. However, the law was never changed. The IRS commissioner wants to enforce the law as written in the early 50's. There is no way that Congress to go back to the law as written. They will changed it to the way it is being enforced now, because it benefits both parties.

It was reported that McConnell had a meeting with other top Republicans prior to Obama accepting the oath of office with the purpose of how to deal with the new president. That's where they agreed to try and make a one term president. I don't know if McConnell or anybody in the Congress or President or his staff could pass the Pinocchio test. I guess you would have to look at the number of items that McConnell filibustered during that period to get an idea who is telling the truth. It is not worth the trouble.

Instead of goggling "Fox News Hypocrisy", try this. Comcast on demand, TV, The Daily Show on June 22nd. Jon Stewart has made a lot of money attacking Fox News, and the Republican party. Don't listen to what he has to say. Look at the Fox News clips that he is showing concerning the 9 deaths in SC, and the 2 policemen in New York City. Fox News reporters stated that Obama was politizing (sp) the 9 deaths in SC even before the victims were put in the ground. However, they did the same thing in the deaths of the two officers attacking both Obama and de Blasio before the first officer was put in the ground.

What problem did Reid have with the energy bill? What were the amendments? I truly don't know.

Guest 07-13-2015 11:33 AM

Missed one thing. Concerning when McConnell made the comment about making Obama a one term president, he had to know that it was reported prior to Obama's oath of office. There is such a thing as "guilt by silence". He should have said something in early 2009 about the accuracy of the report.

Guest 07-13-2015 11:53 AM

This remains just another Regressive "yap, yap, yap".

The Regressives have no candidate who can pull out a Presidential win over Sec. Clinton. Their PACs are spending up to a BILLION dollars in the next few months to run negative ads against her to "villify" her. If they thought they had a chance of winning, they would trot out their candidates with positive positions on what THEY would do instead of concentrating on finding fault in the other prime contender.

Run scared, run Regressives!

Guest 07-13-2015 12:01 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1086441)
This remains just another Regressive "yap, yap, yap".

The Regressives have no candidate who can pull out a Presidential win over Sec. Clinton. Their PACs are spending up to a BILLION dollars in the next few months to run negative ads against her to "villify" her. If they thought they had a chance of winning, they would trot out their candidates with positive positions on what THEY would do instead of concentrating on finding fault in the other prime contender.

Run scared, run Regressives!

Self satisfying, self gratification BS!

Guest 07-13-2015 12:23 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1086418)
I didn't gloss over anything. Did the IRS target Tea Party groups? When you put the Tea Party target on your chest, someone is going to shoot at it. The IRS thinks that they are answerable to nobody. They don't have a gun in their hands. They have a B52 loaded with smart bombs.

The law concerning 501(c)4 political charitable groups dates back to the early 50's and states that these groups can perform no political advertising/actions. There is another IRS regulation concerning activity by political action groups. In the late 50's, that was changed to no more than 50% political activity. However, the law was never changed. The IRS commissioner wants to enforce the law as written in the early 50's. There is no way that Congress to go back to the law as written. They will changed it to the way it is being enforced now, because it benefits both parties.

It was reported that McConnell had a meeting with other top Republicans prior to Obama accepting the oath of office with the purpose of how to deal with the new president. That's where they agreed to try and make a one term president. I don't know if McConnell or anybody in the Congress or President or his staff could pass the Pinocchio test. I guess you would have to look at the number of items that McConnell filibustered during that period to get an idea who is telling the truth. It is not worth the trouble.

Instead of goggling "Fox News Hypocrisy", try this. Comcast on demand, TV, The Daily Show on June 22nd. Jon Stewart has made a lot of money attacking Fox News, and the Republican party. Don't listen to what he has to say. Look at the Fox News clips that he is showing concerning the 9 deaths in SC, and the 2 policemen in New York City. Fox News reporters stated that Obama was politizing (sp) the 9 deaths in SC even before the victims were put in the ground. However, they did the same thing in the deaths of the two officers attacking both Obama and de Blasio before the first officer was put in the ground.

What problem did Reid have with the energy bill? What were the amendments? I truly don't know.


You are hard to keep up with.

You told a bold face lie relative to McConnell...I mean bold face made up stuff. Then you say "IT WAS REPORTED"....WHERE was it reported. This is an old wives tale oft times shown to be untrue in every aspect, and instead of admitting you told a lie and apologizing for it, you continue with the revisionist history. Most, who read BOTH SIDES know it is simply democratic folk lore yet despite knowing the truth you continue to repeat.

I did the googling at your request, and again you simply glide over the stupid links it brings, and remember there are the same links on the other side. THAT I will not argue with, but repeating downright fables and then just changing the link does not work with anyone who is remotely paying attention.

IRS...as I said, key person REFUSES to cooperate....much of the evidence was destroyed, so I make no claims as you do. I assume you have good solid info about how up front everything was. Sort of like ACORN was always an upright clean cut group UNTIL.

I actually find your posts amusing...no truth and very very old tales from wherever.

Real history is more important and you have proven so many times that you have no problem positives downright lies. You must be proud

Oh, and the politicizing of this tragic deaths and others ? I disagree on some and think it very clearly apparent he did on others, but I assure you that opinions do vary, and your disregard for any opinion except yours is very telling.

And since you never ever even read about all the Reid follies in the Senate, I must dismiss you as one who is led around by a movement and not facts. I can tell you what most left wing and right wing pundits are saying this morning, and then am in the process of reading more facts from both sides of the issues.

I am mocked and made fun of for my links, but I believe in knowing both sides, and if I am going to discuss it here or anywhere, be able to tell someone where they may validate what I am saying. Mouthing one sides line must be boring...you certainly learn nothing except some revised look at an issue, whether it be right or left.

But to simply tell lies and stand by them...not sure what there is to be said.

Guest 07-13-2015 12:50 PM

Oh and for those looking for quotes, revisit this quotes posted from Hillary Clinton.

They are hate filled, and ethnic driven. THAT is the kind of language you should be worried about that comes from your heart and soul, not from political maneuvering.

"

Guest 07-13-2015 01:07 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1086484)
Oh and for those looking for quotes, revisit this quotes posted from Hillary Clinton.

They are hate filled, and ethnic driven. THAT is the kind of language you should be worried about that comes from your heart and soul, not from political maneuvering.

"

Yap, yap, yap.


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