Oh but it is relevant now with the facts underscoring his US citizenship, without a doubt are understood.....

And I do believe you are overlooking the voting public.

I am not saying I am for Cruz or that he should win but jst not wanting him is not sufficient argument.

Despite the happenstance of a birth across the border, there is no question that Senator Cruz has been a citizen from birth and is thus a “natural born Citizen” within the meaning of the Constitution. Harvard

If you received a security clearance, we should take a long look at what the requirements are after your hate speech !

Perhaps you might want to re-educate yourself on vocabulary meanings. Or, maybe you should not misuse the word "hate" just because you heard someone else use it before.

You obviously have no qualms with Hillary having a top secret clearance and then mishandling of 2300 classified documents. Your idea of "secure" might need to be reevaluated, and adjusted. :laugh:

It already has been by Clinton....if it is inconvenient just put it on plain paper and send it in the mail!!!

What did the original writers of the Constitution have in mind when they wrote that you must be native born to hold the office of President. Be mindful of that period of time and of what they were fearful of and what they wanted to prevent.

Basically, they wanted to prevent foreign influence, period.

Even though, I won't be voting for Cruz unless he someone wins the nomination, I believe that he has more loyalty to country than Obama. I doubt Cruz would apologize for this country, or lead from behind (meaning: following). I have no doubt of Cruz's loyalty. I do doubt his ability to get along with his peers, let alone with the Democrats. But, then again that is pretty much an Obama trait also.

All smoke. Cruz is a citizen. That's more than can be said for the current dictator.

:thumbup:

Cruz doesn't have to get along with his peers. That's been the trouble. We have slipped so far that getting along is tantamount to sharing the sleeze and business as usual. Cruz has argued before the Supreme Court. He is brilliant and has a prodigious memory. No one owns him. I would never consider anyone who wants to "get along. Business as usual."

We have seen "divisive" with the current administrator. Cruz will not get anything done for another 8 years. The only way to make people happy is to have a consensus vote on issues, not a one sided vote like Obamacare. Even Trump would be better than Cruz in dealing with people. Say what you will, but either people respect him, like him or fear him. But, everyone knows if he says he will do something, you can be assured that he can do it. I believe that Trump could talk (or trick) the devil into going to church, so I have no reason to believe that he couldn't get congress to start working. Pelosi chased all the half way decent democrats out of congress. Cruz would probably have a similar effect on the GOP.

Wonder you could back your statements with actual facts and not just an opinion. I would like to pass on your information but need facts to back what you say up.

It would help if you used the reply button so that we could tell what you are referencing.

Citizen? check!

I don't believe in my post there was any mention of Mrs. Clinton. Quit trying to put words in other peoples mouths. If you can't just address the post, then don't.

If you did not use the word "hate" then the post is not "addressed" to you. If you are going to get all defensive, then maybe this is a bit much for you.

Born in Hawaii. End of story!


Ted Cruz Canadian citizen born in Calgary. End of story.

This is just to much fun!!!!!

Born in Canada, still citizen. End of story.

This is just boring.

On the other hand, what more do the liberals have? Humor them.

Remember the most famous statement for authenticating truth:

"I did not have sex with that woman"!

Remember the most famous statement for authenticating truth:

"2003 Mission Accomplished speech"

Big difference. Clinton made the first statement. The carrier made the second statement as they were leaving for home.

Are we, once again, being lead to believe the "Mission Accomplished" banner was about the ship returning. LOL, we could believe that except for W's remarks that day.

If there's one day in particular Bush could choose to rewrite, it might be May 1, 2003.

It was a sunny day off the coast of San Diego. Congress had authorized what would become the Iraq war a few months earlier, in October 2002. The invasion had begun in March 2003. On May 1, President Bush had landed on the USS Abraham Lincoln in the co-pilot's seat of a Navy fighter jet.

President Bush is welcomed aboard the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln, Thursday, May 1, 2003, off the California coast. (Pablo Martinez Monsivais/AP)
After landing, Bush changed out of his combat suit and stepped up to the podium, surrounded by a crowd as receptive as the one in Dallas last week.

Having marched U.S. troops through Iraq and deposed of Saddam Hussein's regime (and his statue), Bush called Operation Iraqi Freedom "a job well done."

"Major combat operations in Iraq have ended," Bush said, the infamous "Mission Accomplished" banner hovering over him. "In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed."

At the time, the theatrics seemed effective, in the eyes of U.S. News. Democrats were disappointed, as Ken Walsh wrote, that the photo-op went so smoothly

Instead, the speech and the banner became a symbol of the unpopular war, which would last another eight brutal years. The image came to encapsulate not just the war, but the mistakes of the Bush administration as a whole, as even Bush himself admitted at his final press conference as president.

"Clearly, putting a 'mission accomplished' on an aircraft carrier was a mistake," Bush said, when asked about his errors while in the White House. "It sent the wrong message. We were trying to say something differently but, nevertheless, it conveyed a different message."

You can't spin this one!!!!!

So what is your point?

But, George Washington was born in VA.

The selective backward looking and selective quotings from the past that suit the current poster's agenda or goal is no more than a waste of time and effort.

Also boring and repeitive cause that is all they seem to be able to do.

Your rant sounds like Elmer Fudd sputtering about that "wascalley wabbit". :cus:

Sorry to find out your hearing is as impaired as speaking/typing.:evil6:

Here is the article read it and weep.

'Mission Accomplished': Bush's Infamous Iraq War Speech, 10 Years Later - US News

You can believe the Republican spin or hear the truth your choice. But my nephew served 4 more tours in the Gulf region and earned the Purple Heart after GW Bush declared major combat operations were over!!! BS

GW Bush started a war with a country that had NOT attacked the United States. He and his staff lied about the reasons for doing so in the run up to the war.....

Then he flew on to a carrier in full military grab under a Mission Accomplished banner and declared the Iraq war over. But as we know it was NOT!

He and Dick Cheney abandoned our troops there when he left office.

Now posters on this site are trying to spin the truth.

That's my point!

We all thank him for his service.

Now let's hear about how many have had to serve and where since Obama has declared combat in certain countries has come to an end. You know like places in Iraq where several American troops were pinned down by the taliban.

Obama is mucjh more devious about calling it what it is than any before him.
Remember he is the master illusionist.

And in the end it is our family memebers who pay the price.

So cut the BS about what W or anybody else did in the past. We cannot make that right. But we can sure as hell do something about the here and now by demanding the illusionist in chief tell it like it is and send our service members the help and allow them to win. Or get the hell ut all together.

Time for the political BS illusion to stop!

My post was a reaction to someone, in this string, saying the "Mission Accomplished" banner was about the ship which is Republican spin....

You are right about W his administration did many things wrong and we cannot change it now but we should NOT deny what happened on his watch and endeavor to keep it from happening again.

I have 2 other nephews in the military as well.. 1 Marines 1 Navy and 1 Army.

The one with the Purple Heart was on duty at the US Embassy in Tanzania when it was blown up in a terrorist attack. To this day I say it is not good when you see your nephew on CNN!

Gotta love it when someone has a relative that went into combat. Everyone knows someone "else" that went. That is supposed to make their statement credible.

So, I will legitimize my statement also, but with one difference. I served in Vietnam for two tours. 60K were killed in combat. I served in Desert storm and I was also in Baghdad in 2003 during Iraqi Freedom and was in the Al Rasheed when it was struck by 21 rockets while the World Series was going back here in the states. But, I also was in Baghdad when almost a half million bodies were uncovered in mass graves from when Sadaam used WMDs on his own people. I talked with the Iraqi people and they were so happy that we were there. At least the ones that talked to me. One story related to me explained how Sadaam and his brother used to drive down the city street looking for young women. When they found one they thought interesting, they would kidnap her and take her back to his palace, rape and kill her. One young male Iraqi told me that his sister had been kidnapped, never to be seen again. I was also told that before Sadaam fled the city, he released all the felony murders, prisoners from jail. Do I think that Bush made some mistakes? Not with Iraq. I received incoming fire almost every day that I was in Iraq. Was it Bush's fault? Not in my opinion.

In my opinion, Bush's only fault was allowing his tax cut that allowed the lower half of the income groups to either pay no taxes or very little taxes. Some folks that did not pay taxes even received a refund(?). That program is called the Earned income tax credit, also a Republican plan that I believe started under Ford and later expanded.

But, all that aside I find it very disingenuous that liberals continue to blame Bush for their poor choice of president. I realize that it was either a choice of Obama or Hillary and that caused a conundrum. Now, they have a choice of Hillary or the other socialist, Sanders. Another conundrum. They have the choice of the old or the antique. Not very progressive.

No you can't spin that. It was a case of theatrics that backfired on him. Even now he admits the Iraq war was a mistake. But I supposed some on this forum will try to blame it all on Obama.

Poor Obama. He is sooo misunderstood. Bush has been haunting the White House, forcing Obama into making poor decisions. It was Bush's fault for the recession, but Obama can hardly be blamed for the duration for the recession. After all, how can he be blamed for the bad recovery. A president is not responsible for the economy, right? Besides, how can you blame Obama when he has done nothing....other than play golf. Poor pitiful Obama, had a democrat majority and still couldn't get anything done. Bush's ghost has been such a bully.

Bartlett: "Mission Accomplished" Banner Was My Fault - CBS News

The subject of the thread was regarding Cruz's citizenship. Time to get back on track.