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Guest 05-01-2015 08:06 PM

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I'm a liberal and both my kids are conservative cops. So much for this line of crap!

From the tone of your posts, my assessment is you screwed up your entire life ... except for raising two conservative kids. Congrats for doing that right.

Guest 05-01-2015 08:08 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1054465)
Look at the arrest record and you will see that most of his arrests were for posession and sale of marijuana. This does not inflict huge amounts of pain and dysfunction on anyone.

He was not a stellar citizen but to sever his spine is going beyond the beyonds.

Burglary, distribution, sale of heroin ... etc. Plus, you have to assume he only got caught for a small number of the deals he did.

We already agree he did not deserve to die the way he did, but still seems to me you're blind (willfully or otherwise) to the pain he inflicts. Watch HBO's The Wire sometime and see how you feel about drug dealers.

Guest 05-01-2015 08:49 PM

Blk D.A. was pressured into charging the officers.

Guest 05-01-2015 09:03 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1054525)
Blk D.A. was pressured into charging the officers.

Yes, and she waived presenting the evidence to the grand jury ...

Guest 05-01-2015 09:34 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1054512)
Burglary, distribution, sale of heroin ... etc. Plus, you have to assume he only got caught for a small number of the deals he did.

We already agree he did not deserve to die the way he did, but still seems to me you're blind (willfully or otherwise) to the pain he inflicts. Watch HBO's The Wire sometime and see how you feel about drug dealers.

The death has been ruled a homicide. His criminal record has nothing to do with that. If it is proven that Baltimore cops killed him, the cops deserve prison time.

Guest 05-01-2015 10:50 PM

I imagine somewhere in the judicial process the law will address intent. For some it is acceptable to state or accept the statement, the cops, all 6 of them killed the guy.
We can also say we know all 6 did not. And we can safely say there was no intent to kill.

What we should all be concerned about is fairness by those who may be intent to appear to be balancing the scale.
Telling cops to stand down.
Telling cops to not wear protective gear.
Waiving of the grand jury by a novice DA.

The crime de Le crime? Sharpton is promoting the policing of America be handled by the federal government....the DOJ no less where we have another rookie. Good call Al ......put the people in charge who cannot collect taxes from guys like you.

The race card game is now moving to a new level, driven by those who have a racial agenda.

And unfortunately Obama is playing the race game as well instead of being presidential.

Guest 05-02-2015 02:06 AM

It is times for the black community to stand up and say Freddie was a career criminal that should have been off the streets long ago. He was a parasite on society with a long RAP Sheet.

Guest 05-02-2015 06:46 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1054566)
It is times for the black community to stand up and say Freddie was a career criminal that should have been off the streets long ago. He was a parasite on society with a long RAP Sheet.

It won't happen when the likes of Obama, Sharpton, the MAyor of Baltimore, the new head of DOJ, et al looking for a non black pound of flesh.

When will we ever get a chance to make it right.
We give them aid of all types.
We have lowered the standards of achievement in schools in the name of equality.
We are in the process of eliminating selective law enforcement to appear as to not be profiling or picking on them.
No matter how much they get (not a negative) or improve, their leadership continues to exploit them as second class.
Their is no benefit for their leadership to show improvement.

The deck is unfortunately stacked against the black population ever feeling equal.....mostly by their own people and leaders who have everything to gain keeping them right where they are with little or no improvement.

Guest 05-02-2015 07:05 AM

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From the tone of your posts, my assessment is you screwed up your entire life ... except for raising two conservative kids. Congrats for doing that right.

I've done pretty well for myself. How nice that a tea party idiot should ever be able to pass judgement on anyone is a joke. You guys and your dutiful wives are so far to the right that no other tea party chapter in Florida will have anything to do with you! That's how screwed up you are! Tuck your white sheets in nicely tonight!

Guest 05-02-2015 07:23 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1054611)
I've done pretty well for myself. How nice that a tea party idiot should ever be able to pass judgement on anyone is a joke. You guys and your dutiful wives are so far to the right that no other tea party chapter in Florida will have anything to do with you! That's how screwed up you are! Tuck your white sheets in nicely tonight!

Musta had a second helping of XXX natsies this morning.

Nice try by the way.

Guest 05-02-2015 07:47 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1054611)
I've done pretty well for myself. How nice that a tea party idiot should ever be able to pass judgement on anyone is a joke. You guys and your dutiful wives are so far to the right that no other tea party chapter in Florida will have anything to do with you! That's how screwed up you are! Tuck your white sheets in nicely tonight!

Good morning Mr. Psycho. Always nice to start the day with one of your sputtering rants.


"Dutiful wives?" ...tsk tsk, that a sexist oinker statement don't you think?

Guest 05-02-2015 08:01 AM

[QUOTE=Guest;1054559]I imagine somewhere in the judicial process the law will address intent. For some it is acceptable to state or accept the statement, the cops, all 6 of them killed the guy.
We can also say we know all 6 did not. And we can safely say there was no intent to kill.
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The six cops have been released on bail.
Intent is NOT part of the equation. To be found guilty of manslaughter or depraved heart murder, intent is not necessary.

A couple of the cops most likely will be found guilty - as they are. None will be able to lead the life they previously led - sort of like George Zimmerman has found out since he killed Trayvon Martin.

Guest 05-02-2015 08:34 AM

On a related topic, what do people think will be the likely impact on the community of the six cops being charged, particularly in the way it was done (ie no grand jury)?

I think this is bullish for drug dealers, and they will enjoy more business free from harassment from the cops ... because most will simply pull back and become apathetic about enforcement. There will also predictably be more violence perpetrated upon a hapless and hopeless black underclass.

But, people will be "happy" the cops are charged. Sad for everyone. Welcome to the Blue State and Deep Blue City paradise ... this is what keeps Democrat politicians in business.

Guest 05-02-2015 09:01 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1054651)
On a related topic, what do people think will be the likely impact on the community of the six cops being charged, particularly in the way it was done (ie no grand jury)?

I think this is bullish for drug dealers, and they will enjoy more business free from harassment from the cops ... because most will simply pull back and become apathetic about enforcement. There will also predictably be more violence perpetrated upon a hapless and hopeless black underclass.

But, people will be "happy" the cops are charged. Sad for everyone. Welcome to the Blue State and Deep Blue City paradise ... this is what keeps Democrat politicians in business.


All six officers charged in Freddie Gray's death released on bail - Baltimore Sun


Complete and utter bs regarding no grand jury. Where do you get your info? Please post a reputable link.

Here are the next steps for the police officers, summarized from today's Baltimore Sun.

(1) A city grand jury will decide whether to indict.

(2) If indicted, officers will have an arraignment at which time they can plead guilty or not guilty.

(3) If pleading not guilty, motions can be made before a judge, such as questions relating to evidence or change of venue

(4) Officers then have the option of a trial by jury or a trial by judge



And what will the reaction of the newly elected republican governor be to these "Blue State and Deep Blue City paradise" problems?

Read the article before continuing so spew this misinformation.

Guest 05-02-2015 09:13 AM

Baltimore's State Attorney Marilyn Mosby made the following public comment:

"To the people of Baltimore and the demonstrators across America, I have heard your call of 'no justice, no peace.' " Really??

I find it bothersome that a senior law enforcement official finds it necessary to play to the galleries and address the mob of demonstrators. Almost like she's saying ... does anyone have six pieces of rope we can borrow?

I also think it's likely she has her eye on future political office.


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