janmcn - i would love to know how you reached that conclusion as well.

WHERE ARE ALL THE PEOPLE SCREAMING THIS MORNING THAT WE HAD A BUDGET AND THAT THE REPUBLICAN WERE THE ONES THAT WERE HOLDING IT ALL UP ?????/

Where did you go !

Make a claim, no facts and then run and hide !!! GREAT !

READ a bit....stop relying on the one stop websites that you appear to be visiting.

Forget it...just like the budget thing earlier....make an accusation and once they catch on....RUN ~ never to be seen again !

I heard several pundits say it on TV today, including on Morning Joe.

sunset golf, happy hour, dinner, market nite?

don't you and btk go holding your breath waiting for responses, please! ;)

pundits - can't count on them for much more than the daily emails they receive from the heads of their campaign staff. :( unless they back their opinion up with a fact or two somewhere...that i can get into! ;)

You are correct. Some posters on this forum have an active lifestyle...pickleball, golf, tennis, swimming, dancing, happy hour, etc etc

And this is the response to which of the questions asked of you today ?

taking carof myself
 

I just don't trust what would happen to medical benefits I paid for the last 40 years. We all paid for into SS and Medicare If Medicare goes to a voucher system or changed where a gov't bureaucracy decides what kind of care I'm given I have a chance not to get the care that I've paid for.

I think the politicians need to take that into account. If they want to make drastic changes do it for those under 30 who haven't yet paid that much into the system.

Keep in mind a few things...

First anything in the Ryan plan will NOT affect anyone over 55 at all in anyway.

Secondly, his plan, which is his second is simply a map...he changed a lot from the first to the second based on feedback...this is what we need in this country.

I am not sure if 30 would be the magic age since this has been allowed to go on for so long.....funny, GW Bush said that SS had a problem and was open to any discussion on how to fix it and the Democrats basically made fun of him...said it has no problems.

Ryan's plan (which is his second) is likely to flip-flop (or is it evolve) into a third, fourth, or even fifth plan. You just ASSUME that his plan would not affect anyone under 55. Wait until the further flip-flops to see what the final plan looks like.

Basically, the plan as it reads right now, to you, looks fine but as long as it happens to someone else? Do I read that right? :shrug:

Your reading is not even in the ball park.

Neither version ever affected anyone over 55 and I cannot imagine a plan by Democrat or Republican that would. That appears to be an agreement.

Why would you say what you said about " looks fine but as long as it happens to someone else? You certainly are responsible for an explanation for that remark and accusation ! THAT was a very cheap shot !

That is how I was reading your post when you said you did not know if age 30 was the magic number. I take that as being you are in favor as long as it does not affect you - since I imagine you are well over 30.

You have to learn to read EVERYTHING and IN CONTEXT.

here is the post to which I was replying but I assume, as always, you dont read in context...hope this helps a bit.....

" Originally Posted by aljetmet View Post
I just don't trust what would happen to medical benefits I paid for the last 40 years. We all paid for into SS and Medicare If Medicare goes to a voucher system or changed where a gov't bureaucracy decides what kind of care I'm given I have a chance not to get the care that I've paid for.

I think the politicians need to take that into account. If they want to make drastic changes do it for those under 30 who haven't yet paid that much into the system."

PS....it was still a cheap shot

there will be reform to medicare....like it or not....and just like increasing the SS retirement age it will reach down to younger ages...pick one you like or have heard...30.....40...55.

That is how Ryans proposal is intended......no different than what ever program gets final approval.

It is known that doing nothing will have medicare go belly up in 11+ years. Ryan has made a proposal.

For those opponents of Ryan's plan so knowledgeable of his plan to be able to bad mouth it.....you must certainly also be aware of Obama's plan for making sure medicare will not go belly up? I anxiously await the insight to his intents!!

btk

btk

buggy - on the campaign trail i think we will only hear the criticisms of obamascare by the romney/ryan team, followed immediately with laments such as 'do you want that?' or 'that has to change.' or 'that's not what that means!'

in light of the fact that the ryan budget was formulated before obamascare was adjudicated by the supremes, that decision may necessitate some tweaking of ryan's proposal - and i am willing to see if that happens and consider same.

and if the romney/ryan team is elected to lead the nation - i hope that a romney/ryan budget will be one based on the best of what both sides of the aisle have to offer. i know it will not happen if obama is reelected, we have his record to look to and know that.

I think the Ryan budget needs quite a bit of tweaking actually. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE DIRECTION because that is where we need to go RIGHT AWAY.

If you look at his budget, everyone will find a line that they do not agree on.....but the entire of idea of we MUST cut spending is there and that I like. He enlisted much left wing help with the budget and would have no problem with his rep getting both sides in line. The Democrats, as a whole, know in their heart we need to cut spending but..you know.

Fact is, I made this prediction on here before and will repeat it....if Romney wins, in one year there will be a number of books written detailing the distrust and chagrin that the democrats in the senate and house have for President Obama. Just my thought....over the years, have heard comments here and there about his lack of ANY communication with his party but that is for another time.

Ryan budget is the blue print we need