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Guest 10-17-2011 03:10 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 407312)
If at the time of conception the life begins, then the act of abortion would be murder as I understand murder. I personally feel that a life begins when the egg is joined by the sperm on moment one.

I also believe in Law and Law today says abortion is legal. Until that is changed, I support a womens right to decide.

So you support man's law over the tenants of God's law? Is your conscience eased by this?

Guest 10-17-2011 03:22 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 407318)
So you support man's law over the tenants of God's law? Is your conscience eased by this?

What do you want Richie...a country governed by biblical law just like Sharia Law based on the Koran? Yes, I support man's law over God's law for a lot of reasons, one of which being that not everyone in this country is a christian. If we were judged by god's law, just about all of us would be quilty of something every single day of their lives. And that is because everyone finds ways around tenets of religion when it suits them...and to not recognize this is ourselves is pure repression.

Guest 10-17-2011 05:33 PM

Murder is against the law of this land. Murder means to take the life of another human being. If you believe that life begins at moment one when egg joins sperm, then to take that life would be murder.
The question isn't whether murder is against the law. The question is when does life begin. Since no one here can prove that life does not begin at conception...there might be someone in the building...how can we condone abortion? Just because the law is to take the life of the unborn, WHO WILL BE THE VOICE TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF!

Guest 10-17-2011 05:34 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 407328)
What do you want Richie...a country governed by biblical law just like Sharia Law based on the Koran? Yes, I support man's law over God's law for a lot of reasons, one of which being that not everyone in this country is a christian. If we were judged by god's law, just about all of us would be quilty of something every single day of their lives. And that is because everyone finds ways around tenets of religion when it suits them...and to not recognize this is ourselves is pure repression.

Yea, thats what I wanted to say but just not smart enough to get it out. Thanks LadyDOC

Guest 10-17-2011 05:38 PM

If I see a Guy A murdering another Guy B, and I have the opportunity to stop him... Should I try to save Guy A's life? And if I do, am I judging Guy B?

Guest 10-17-2011 05:38 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 407339)
Murder is against the law of this land. Murder means to take the life of another human being. If you believe that life begins at moment one when egg joins sperm, then to take that life would be murder.
The question isn't whether murder is against the law. The question is when does life begin. Since no one here can prove that life does not begin at conception...there might be someone in the building...how can we condone abortion? Just because the law is to take the life of the unborn, WHO WILL BE THE VOICE TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF!

It is murder to some and a compassionate act to others. It is just not up to us to be GOD or the judge and jury. Like I said, I would not support or have an abortion, but I would not tell my own wife she could not if she wanted to. We have so very few freedoms, that is one I don't have the right to take away from someone else.

Guest 10-17-2011 05:40 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 407342)
If I see a Guy A murdering another Guy B, and I have the opportunity to stop him... Should I try to save Guy A's life? And if I do, am I judging Guy B?

Yes you are. You may be judging correctly, but without a lot more information you are judging.

Guest 10-17-2011 05:44 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 407344)
It is murder to some and a compassionate act to others. It is just not up to us to be GOD or the judge and jury. Like I said, I would not support or have an abortion, but I would not tell my own wife she could not if she wanted to. We have so very few freedoms, that is one I don't have the right to take away from someone else.

ABSOLUTELY!!! I agree. No one has the right to take away the freedoms of the unborn either, freedom to continue to live. But why do the mother's rights supersede the child's right to live? Why have we given anyone the right to murder another?

Guest 10-17-2011 05:49 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 407346)
Yes you are. You may be judging correctly, but without a lot more information you are judging.

So should I not judge? and walk on by?

Guest 10-17-2011 05:53 PM

TVII~ You confuse me...You agree that life begins at conception. You also are a professed defender of the underdog. Why will you not defend the life of the ultimate underdog...an unborn child, with no way to escape when the abortionist arrives; an unborn child who is snugly hidden under the heart of it's own mother; an unborn child who cannot speak out and beg for it's own life.
Just sayin...:cry:

Guest 10-17-2011 05:59 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 407354)
TVII~ You confuse me...You agree that life begins at conception. You also are a professed defender of the underdog. Why will you not defend the life of the ultimate underdog...an unborn child, with no way to escape when the abortionist arrives; an unborn child who is snugly hidden under the heart of it's own mother; an unborn child who cannot speak out and beg for it's own life.
Just sayin...:cry:

WOW. I am speachless after this post. I will have to think about that for a few minutes. One thing I do is respond too quickly to often and you have my eye brows pinched together with this post.

Guest 10-17-2011 08:18 PM

Yes, Ladydoc is 100% right in her post. We certainly do not want the law of the land to be dictated by the Bible or the Koran or any other holy book of teaching.



Katz is right in her post that MURDER is against the law. However, an abortion is legal. Ergo: IT IS NOT MURDER.


Snce Herman Cain has stated that abortion is NOT an option for cases of rape or incest, he is too far right-wing for me and for most of American voters, too, I am sure.

Guest 10-17-2011 08:28 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 407418)
Yes, Ladydoc is 100% right in her post. We certainly do not want the law of the land to be dictated by the Bible or the Koran or any other holy book of teaching.



Katz is right in her post that MURDER is against the law. However, an abortion is legal. Ergo: IT IS NOT MURDER.


Snce Herman Cain has stated that abortion is NOT an option for cases of rape or incest, he is too far right-wing for me and for most of American voters, too, I am sure.

So, with your reason, it is perfectly all right to kill millions of female babies because it is the law in China. People in China kill their babies if they are female because they are allowed one child.

So the law is right in China. Murder is OK. God's law of Thou shall not Kill is wrong? Right on Buggie.

Guest 10-17-2011 08:33 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 407418)
Yes, Ladydoc is 100% right in her post. We certainly do not want the law of the land to be dictated by the Bible or the Koran or any other holy book of teaching.



Katz is right in her post that MURDER is against the law. However, an abortion is legal. Ergo: IT IS NOT MURDER.

Snce Herman Cain has stated that abortion is NOT an option for cases of rape or incest, he is too far right-wing for me and for most of American voters, too, I am sure.

Murder is by definition the taking of a life, stopping a life, ending a life.
Life is defined as the condition that distinguishes organisms from inorganic objects and dead organisms, being manifested by growth through metabolism, reproduction, and the power of adaptation to environment through changes originating internally.

An egg and sperm meet and the result is a new cell with a totally distinct and different set of chromosomes. This cell begins to grow, divide and multiply at an incredible speed. The condition of this new organism fits the definition of life.

Just because some judges chose to make it legal to end the life of the unborn organism, does not conclude that abortion is not murder. It only concludes that the court has made a tragic mistake in their ruling.

Guest 10-17-2011 08:34 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 407424)
So, with your reason, it is perfectly all right to kill millions of female babies because it is the law in China. People in China kill their babies if they are female because they are allowed on child.

So the law is right in China. Murder is OK. God's law of Thou shall not Kill is wrong? Right on Buggie.

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