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Guest 04-08-2016 10:58 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1210027)
And do you think on the other side of the world, 2000 years ago the disciples were named Matthew, Luke, Paul and John?

...or that Jesus was 6 feet tall, had blue eyes and blonde hair? Most likely, Jesus was around 5 foot 4, dark brown curly hair, brown eyes, and dark olive complexion.

Anyhow, Jesus taught compassion. Remember that when bashing immigrants or minorities.

Guest 04-08-2016 11:13 AM

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...or that Jesus was 6 feet tall, had blue eyes and blonde hair? Most likely, Jesus was around 5 foot 4, dark brown curly hair, brown eyes, and dark olive complexion.

Anyhow, Jesus taught compassion. Remember that when bashing immigrants or minorities.

Oh, so you are going to lecture us on Christianity? What a joke! Who told you that Christians ever suggested that Jesus was blonde with blue eyes? And really, what difference does it make as to what his appearance was? And what does his appearance have to do with the topic of this thread? And what would you know about Christian compassion? It is obvious that you are a non-believer so please don't pretend to be an expert on religion.

Compassion? Where was all your compassion when it came to doing your patriotic duty for your country? Yes, yes, you can come on here and make up any fictitious history you wish. Where is your compassion when it comes to charity donations. I mean other than when you volunteer everyone else's earnings.

Without laws, you have anarchy. Where's your civility when it comes to order? Why should someone be able to jump the line for any purpose? You libtards disparage the wealthy because you feel they have special rights afforded to them due to their wealth, and then turn around and want every minority or vagabond to be able to jump the line when they are undeserving.

Get over yourself. It's easy to have compassion at other people's expense, isn't it?

Guest 04-08-2016 11:34 AM

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Is that the best defense for Obama's blunders that you could come with? What law did Bush break by signing that E.O.? What did he do that was illegal?

Are you liberals going to be crybabies every time someone says a legitimate criticism of the Obummer? Are you going ATTEMPT to use other previous presidents record in an ATTEMPT to defend Obummer the failure?

Your feeble attempt was pitiful at best.


No I think you said Bush's EO were for:

"You will find that he(Bush) didn't circumvent law with his E.O.s. To designate a day or morning, a day of prayer or a day to baseball champions is one thing."

EO 13303 was much more than that...did you think we would forget that the Bush administration would tell the American people that the cost of the Iraq war would be paid back by Iraq oil.

“BUSH SIGNED EXECUTIVE ORDER 13303″ Gave Immunity To Oil Companies in 2003 – ::Broadcatching::

I have not called you names nor President Bush names but you on the other hand can do nothing but rant and call the current President names.... Insults get you nowhere!

Guest 04-08-2016 11:52 AM

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No I think you said Bush's EO were for:

"You will find that he(Bush) didn't circumvent law with his E.O.s. To designate a day or morning, a day of prayer or a day to baseball champions is one thing."

EO 13303 was much more than that...did you think we would forget that the Bush administration would tell the American people that the cost of the Iraq war would be paid back by Iraq oil.

“BUSH SIGNED EXECUTIVE ORDER 13303″ Gave Immunity To Oil Companies in 2003 – ::Broadcatching::

I have not called you names nor President Bush names but you on the other hand can do nothing but rant and call the current President names.... Insults get you nowhere!

You just reinforced my statement. Bush did NOT circumvent the law with his E.O.s as Obumble has. Nice try though, even if it seems halfhearted at best. Insults to Obummer are warranted, since he has spent seven years insulting me and the rest of America. I do feel sorry for your need to defend him constantly though. It must be very tiring and ungratifying.

Guest 04-08-2016 12:29 PM

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What excuse??? Are you kidding? Of course we oppose just about everything socialist. Are you nuts? He hasn't had hardly a good idea in seven years and you want to know why?? WHY??? Obamacare was his priority and it was a catastrophe. Stealing half a trillion bucks from Medicare to pay for those that don't have health care, was just theft. Have to pass it to find out what's in it, and you think that is smart? And you would vote to pass something that you didn't know what it was?

Obama signed unlawful E.O.s and the Supreme Court told him that. What did he do? He just ignored them. He is an ignorant failure, at best and a radical is probably more accurate.

You liberals and your talking points, blaming his failure on a Republican congress when they had a filibuster proof congress for two years. NO OPPOSITION and they still couldn't get anything right. When have you ever heard another president EVER blame someone else for their failures.....I mean, other than Clinton.

You make statements of facts that aren't facts. This is the fifth time that I posted this article. You conservatives have your talking points that aren't based in reality, but stick to them like glue.
ttp://www.outsidethebeltway.com/did-the-democrats-ever-really-have-60-votes-in-the-senate-and-for-how-long/facts

You don't read it, because it doesn't fit your view of the world. The Great Recession wasn't a failure! What president had to walk into such a deep hole before he took one step into the presidency, and then have the opposing party do EVERYTHING possible to make sure the country stayed in the hole for their own political gains. The party first, the country second.

If Obamacare is such a failure, why aren't the Republican candidates talking about it non stop? That is right! Their wives looks are a much more important issue that millions of uninsured citizens. It is working in the states that want it to work, and not working in states that are doing everything possible to make sure it doesn't work. Whatever happened to "repeal, and replace"?

How stupid do you have to be to see that there isn't a problem when people have to use the emergency ward as your primary care physician?

Guest 04-08-2016 01:03 PM

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You make statements of facts that aren't facts. This is the fifth time that I posted this article. You conservatives have your talking points that aren't based in reality, but stick to them like glue.
ttp://www.outsidethebeltway.com/did-the-democrats-ever-really-have-60-votes-in-the-senate-and-for-how-long/facts

You don't read it, because it doesn't fit your view of the world. The Great Recession wasn't a failure! What president had to walk into such a deep hole before he took one step into the presidency, and then have the opposing party do EVERYTHING possible to make sure the country stayed in the hole for their own political gains. The party first, the country second.

If Obamacare is such a failure, why aren't the Republican candidates talking about it non stop? That is right! Their wives looks are a much more important issue that millions of uninsured citizens. It is working in the states that want it to work, and not working in states that are doing everything possible to make sure it doesn't work. Whatever happened to "repeal, and replace"?

How stupid do you have to be to see that there isn't a problem when people have to use the emergency ward as your primary care physician?

I can understand why you whine, when you have to constantly defend the failure in the White House. The reason no one on the right wants to talk about Obamacare is because they have all promised to get rid of it when they move into the White House. Done deal. It's a mess that needs to be erased. Gotta love your constant obsessive exaggeration when it comes to the emergency room primary care scenario. And I love how liberals lie about how ER treatment is free to those that don't have insurance. That's a real gasser. I don't know where you are from but if you go to the ER without insurance you still get the bill, and they still send collectors after you if you don't pay your bill. But, continue with uninformed liberal talking points that you get from those that just parrot liberal pundit talking points.

Guest 04-08-2016 01:50 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1210269)
Oh, so you are going to lecture us on Christianity? What a joke! Who told you that Christians ever suggested that Jesus was blonde with blue eyes? And really, what difference does it make as to what his appearance was? And what does his appearance have to do with the topic of this thread? And what would you know about Christian compassion? It is obvious that you are a non-believer so please don't pretend to be an expert on religion.

Compassion? Where was all your compassion when it came to doing your patriotic duty for your country? Yes, yes, you can come on here and make up any fictitious history you wish. Where is your compassion when it comes to charity donations. I mean other than when you volunteer everyone else's earnings.

Without laws, you have anarchy. Where's your civility when it comes to order? Why should someone be able to jump the line for any purpose? You libtards disparage the wealthy because you feel they have special rights afforded to them due to their wealth, and then turn around and want every minority or vagabond to be able to jump the line when they are undeserving.

Get over yourself. It's easy to have compassion at other people's expense, isn't it?

Look at any of the movies about Jesus (Greatest Story Ever Told, The Bible, etc) and Jesus is the tall blonde. The famous paintings such as The Good Shepherd and of Jesus with the children show Him as the tall blonde.

Expert on religion, no, but for all my life a believer in Christianity.

Serving my country? Vietnam 1968. Prosthetic leg, thanks to it. Work at the Wildwood Soup Kitchen one day a week. How 'bout yourself?

Guest 04-08-2016 02:02 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1210287)
You just reinforced my statement. Bush did NOT circumvent the law with his E.O.s as Obumble has. Nice try though, even if it seems halfhearted at best. Insults to Obummer are warranted, since he has spent seven years insulting me and the rest of America. I do feel sorry for your need to defend him constantly though. It must be very tiring and ungratifying.

You are NOT worth my time!

Guest 04-08-2016 02:09 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1210341)
Look at any of the movies about Jesus (Greatest Story Ever Told, The Bible, etc) and Jesus is the tall blonde. The famous paintings such as The Good Shepherd and of Jesus with the children show Him as the tall blonde.

Expert on religion, no, but for all my life a believer in Christianity.

Serving my country? Vietnam 1968. Prosthetic leg, thanks to it. Work at the Wildwood Soup Kitchen one day a week. How 'bout yourself?

I don't have anything to do with this recent conversation. Maybe a little back a few, I wanted to know why Obama was expected to change his name when he converted to Christianity.

I just wanted to thank you for your military service and helping out at the soup kitchen. You're a good man.

Guest 04-08-2016 03:26 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1209645)
Look at your wife on Social Security who ever paid a dime into the system and now collecting half of what you get. Don't give her a pass.

Dear guest: I believe you will find that most husband and wives worked and earned their social security.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 04-08-2016 03:30 PM

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Did any of you actually read the article? This is not an "executive action". Obama is stating he will not prosecute, much like the military's former don't ask, don't tell policy. Texas, with other states joining in, are arguing this before the U.S. Supreme Court on the basis that the POTUS is obligated to enforce the laws of the United States. My gut feeling is the Court will rule for Obama since past Presidential acts of refusing to enforce a law have been permitted and have even become the law of the land.

Illegal aliens will still risk deportation. They will NOT be eligible for SSI, welfare, food stamps or other free programs. They would be eligible to legally work, pay taxes, collect earned Social Security, disability -- the same as any worker here. Is it the best idea in town? Nope, but I've seen and heard worse in my lifetime.

Under Obamacare illegals are entitled to emergency room care and as such it is over crowding many emergency rooms in New York, Calif etc and because of the over crowding many emergency rooms are just shutting down. do you suppose progressive discovered that they could pay illegals to vote them into office? I do

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Guest 04-08-2016 03:32 PM

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The only/ONLY reason Obama has not been impeached for not doing his job because there would be race riots in the street. Thanks to his inept job performance, it will probably be a long time before anyone in America will be willing to vote for another half-white man for president.

Obama has political cover from the media, educational institutions, unions the 47%

America is lost

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 04-08-2016 03:38 PM

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Obama has political cover from the media, educational institutions, unions the 47%

America is lost

Personal Best Regards:

Somalia needs you! Go now!

Guest 04-08-2016 03:43 PM

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Somalia needs you! Go now!

No thanks, too many liberals there. After all, isn't that where Obumble will be retiring to, his home town? I'm sure a lot of you will blindly follow the piper.

Guest 04-08-2016 03:57 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1210322)
I can understand why you whine, when you have to constantly defend the failure in the White House. The reason no one on the right wants to talk about Obamacare is because they have all promised to get rid of it when they move into the White House. Done deal. It's a mess that needs to be erased. Gotta love your constant obsessive exaggeration when it comes to the emergency room primary care scenario. And I love how liberals lie about how ER treatment is free to those that don't have insurance. That's a real gasser. I don't know where you are from but if you go to the ER without insurance you still get the bill, and they still send collectors after you if you don't pay your bill. But, continue with uninformed liberal talking points that you get from those that just parrot liberal pundit talking points.

I understand why the only thing that you can do is criticize, condemn, and complain. It is only a mess in the states that wanted it to be that way. Have you read Trump's replacement? Of course, you haven't.

What is the collection rate for emergency room visits for people that don't have insurance? Why did they have to have a law that said that hospitals couldn't turn away people from the emergency ward that didn't have health insurance? Talking to you is like talking to a cement wall.

You are the gold standard for parroting Republican talking points.

Guest 04-08-2016 06:39 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1210416)
I understand why the only thing that you can do is criticize, condemn, and complain. It is only a mess in the states that wanted it to be that way. Have you read Trump's replacement? Of course, you haven't.

What is the collection rate for emergency room visits for people that don't have insurance? Why did they have to have a law that said that hospitals couldn't turn away people from the emergency ward that didn't have health insurance? Talking to you is like talking to a cement wall.

You are the gold standard for parroting Republican talking points.

Good luck in your delusion. Yes, ER's are not allowed to turn people away. They also charge them regardless of what libtards tell you.

Guest 04-08-2016 08:06 PM

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Dear guest: I believe you will find that most husband and wives worked and earned their social security.

Personal Best Regards:

That could be true but wives generally speaking make less than their husbands. So they can get half of what the husbands SS is at 66 and then earn interest on her SS till 70.5.

Then she can collect hers at a higher rate. Thats what mine is doing.

Guest 04-09-2016 02:51 AM

An interesting thought:
Hospitals are required to report to the police any gun shot victims, yet they have to let illegal aliens have a free pass.

I wonder when the "Black Lives Matter" radicals will claim discrimination to blacks because of the injustice of requiring all gun shots victims be reported to the police.

Guest 04-09-2016 04:02 AM

Dear Guest: women have made substantial gains these last 30 years. More women go to college and more post graduate work then men. Men comprise a larger share of the unemployed. In other words I am not buying into the war on women issue.

All one gets from progressive presidential candidates are faux informational cascades.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 04-09-2016 07:53 AM

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Dear Guest: women have made substantial gains these last 30 years. More women go to college and more post graduate work then men. Men comprise a larger share of the unemployed. In other words I am not buying into the war on women issue.

All one gets from progressive presidential candidates are faux informational cascades.

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Of course your NOT......That's called Male Privilege Syndrome!

Guest 04-09-2016 08:53 AM

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Dear Guest: women have made substantial gains these last 30 years. More women go to college and more post graduate work then men. Men comprise a larger share of the unemployed. In other words I am not buying into the war on women issue.

All one gets from progressive presidential candidates are faux informational cascades.

Personal Best Regards:

Concerning the war on women, aim a little lower.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Women

All you get from conservative presidential candidates is diversion. Details on how you going to accomplish your political grandstanding is for people, who know what they are talking about.

Guest 04-09-2016 08:59 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1210610)
Concerning the war on women, aim a little lower.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Women

All you get from conservative presidential candidates is diversion. Details on how you going to accomplish your political grandstanding is for people, who know what they are talking about.

I'm glad that you know how to cut and paste a link, because you sure do not know how to make a coherent sentence. It's no wonder why you would trust radical liars such as Hillary and Bernie. They do know how to prey on the simple folks.

Guest 04-09-2016 10:24 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1210612)
I'm glad that you know how to cut and paste a link, because you sure do not know how to make a coherent sentence. It's no wonder why you would trust radical liars such as Hillary and Bernie. They do know how to prey on the simple folks.

Trump's supporters are exactly who? The bulk of them are people without college educations (ie: simple folks). You must be one of them. A coherent sentence to you is one that doesn't contain more than four words. Keep it short. Make it simple.

I support Bernie, or Hillary, and you know this how? You are all knowing, and all seeing despite all evidence to the contrary. I am a registered Republican. My hope is the Republican party will come to their senses, and make John Kasich their nominee.

Guest 04-09-2016 11:58 AM

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Trump's supporters are exactly who? The bulk of them are people without college educations (ie: simple folks). You must be one of them. A coherent sentence to you is one that doesn't contain more than four words. Keep it short. Make it simple.

I support Bernie, or Hillary, and you know this how? You are all knowing, and all seeing despite all evidence to the contrary. I am a registered Republican. My hope is the Republican party will come to their senses, and make John Kasich their nominee.

Sure.

Guest 04-09-2016 11:58 AM

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Guest 04-09-2016 12:27 PM

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Their children, born here, are US citizens and they ARE eligible for welfare, mom goes along for the ride. There was never any welfare reform. Mom lost HER welfare, but it was transferred to the kids, so in the end, it's the same or BETTER than before. A single mother with 4 kids can get benefits equaling $60,000 a year.



Thank God! Shouldn't have voted for that one either. Name me ONE "great" black politician who did good things for ALL, not just blacks.



Here is a study that says your link is wrong.
Welfare: Who

They say only 23% are white on welfare. Even though we're over 50% of the population. Many welfare reports group hispanics with whites. Blacks AND hispanics both make up the most welfare recipients. Over 50% of recent immigrants receive welfare.

So some Right Wing source cooks the numbers and you expect me to believe it? Seriously!

Guest 04-09-2016 12:30 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1210666)
Trump's supporters are exactly who? The bulk of them are people without college educations (ie: simple folks). You must be one of them. A coherent sentence to you is one that doesn't contain more than four words. Keep it short. Make it simple.

I support Bernie, or Hillary, and you know this how? You are all knowing, and all seeing despite all evidence to the contrary. I am a registered Republican. My hope is the Republican party will come to their senses, and make John Kasich their nominee.

I was looking at Katich to as the only hope for me a Reagan Democrat. But then he defunded Planned Parenthood, an organization that poor women depend on for healthcare.

And don't bother to attack with the standard "body parts" which is totally bogus or the they do abortions line. They also do pap smears and provide access to birth control pills.

Guest 04-09-2016 12:58 PM

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I was looking at Katich to as the only hope for me a Reagan Democrat. But then he defunded Planned Parenthood, an organization that poor women depend on for healthcare.

And don't bother to attack with the standard "body parts" which is totally bogus or the they do abortions line. They also do pap smears and provide access to birth control pills.

So do a lot of other places, that aren't gov subsidized. What a dumb comment, or maybe just a dumb thought. My wife says I need to have more patience with the mentally deficient. When you come up with the perfect candidate, I'll be looking at the sky for the second coming.

Guest 04-09-2016 01:47 PM

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So do a lot of other places, that aren't gov subsidized. What a dumb comment, or maybe just a dumb thought. My wife says I need to have more patience with the mentally deficient. When you come up with the perfect candidate, I'll be looking at the sky for the second coming.

Kasich has been described as he adult in the room. He also doesn't look sneaky. People like him. I think that's why he might be electable over Clinton.


How low is that bar? I know lot's of adults that would fit that description. I play a lot of pick up golf. I've met hundreds if not thousands down here that fit that description.

Guest 04-09-2016 03:22 PM

The 1%, white privilege, white male privilege, old white men, war on women, income inequality, a right to health care, free education, entitlement to forgiveness for student loans and mortgages because colleges made false promises and those bankers are just plain greedy beside owning a home is a right.

We believe that there is an intentional conspiracy nationally to prevent women from earning the same wage as a man

We believe in reproductive rights

We support diversity provided your not white, not military, not conservative not Christian.

We support the notion that selecting by minority quotas for our universities and colleges produces a better quality of students.

We support the notion that an elevation of minimum wage to $15 per hour is both fair and that a cap should be placed on executive salaries to narrow the salary gap between employee and management.

We support the Labor Department's government mandated overtime pay.

We also believe in that our federal government has an inexhaustible capacity to print money at will. Its akin to growing money on trees

As students we skipped Economics 101 so we could register for additional diversity courses.

Ad nauseam

We believe in rights but we shirk responsibilities and eschew consequences.
We are progressives

Personal Best Regards

Guest 04-09-2016 03:26 PM

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The 1%, white privilege, white male privilege, old white men, war on women, income inequality, a right to health care, free education, entitlement to forgiveness for student loans and mortgages because colleges made false promises and those bankers are just plain greedy beside owning a home is a right.

We believe that there is an intentional conspiracy nationally to prevent women from earning the same wage as a man

We believe in reproductive rights

We support diversity provided your not white, not military, not conservative not Christian.

We support the notion that selecting by minority quotas for our universities and colleges produces a better quality of students.

We support the notion that an elevation of minimum wage to $15 per hour is both fair and that a cap should be placed on executive salaries to narrow the salary gap between employee and management.

We support the Labor Department's government mandated overtime pay.

We also believe in that our federal government has an inexhaustible capacity to print money at will. Its akin to growing money on trees

As students we skipped Economics 101 so we could register for additional diversity courses.

Ad nauseam

We believe in rights but we shirk responsibilities and eschew consequences.
We are progressives

Personal Best Regards

Ad nauseam

Guest 04-09-2016 03:28 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1210742)
Kasich has been described as he adult in the room. He also doesn't look sneaky. People like him. I think that's why he might be electable over Clinton.


How low is that bar? I know lot's of adults that would fit that description. I play a lot of pick up golf. I've met hundreds if not thousands down here that fit that description.

I like Kasich, but the more I learned about him the more moderate to liberal he seems. This country really needs a shot of hard right conservatism for a few years, to straighten it out. With all the stuff going on overseas, soon to be here in a major way, we need to be tough. You can't talk to terrorists. Muslims consider taking and negotiating to be a sign of weakness. I've been there and have seen it. We have to be tougher and harder than we really are. Kasich is a real nice guy, but I don't think he is the right guy for this time period. But, then again neither are the other two idiots. Both of them are showing their @$$es and it appears that it is just a matter of time before Kasich joins the fray. But, if the delegates at the convention wish to nominate him, he'll get my vote. But, so will either of the other two GOP retards. Anybody but Hillary or Bernie.

Guest 04-09-2016 09:17 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1210759)
The 1%, white privilege, white male privilege, old white men, war on women, income inequality, a right to health care, free education, entitlement to forgiveness for student loans and mortgages because colleges made false promises and those bankers are just plain greedy beside owning a home is a right.

We believe that there is an intentional conspiracy nationally to prevent women from earning the same wage as a man

We believe in reproductive rights

We support diversity provided your not white, not military, not conservative not Christian.

We support the notion that selecting by minority quotas for our universities and colleges produces a better quality of students.

We support the notion that an elevation of minimum wage to $15 per hour is both fair and that a cap should be placed on executive salaries to narrow the salary gap between employee and management.

We support the Labor Department's government mandated overtime pay.

We also believe in that our federal government has an inexhaustible capacity to print money at will. Its akin to growing money on trees

As students we skipped Economics 101 so we could register for additional diversity courses.

Ad nauseam

We believe in rights but we shirk responsibilities and eschew consequences.
We are progressives

Personal Best Regards

I regret making the comment "ad nauseum." I thought it was a clever way to say that we have also heard this opinion many times before.

Someone reminded me a little while ago that writing keeps us sharp. Please keep writing and challenging others who don't agree with.

It keeps us thinking too.

What if we sorted this whole mess out?

I am hanging on to the belief that we all want the world to be a better place for our future kin.

Guest 04-09-2016 09:33 PM

So, you do not agree with ANY of the Progressive points?

Guest 04-09-2016 09:48 PM

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I like Kasich, but the more I learned about him the more moderate to liberal he seems. This country really needs a shot of hard right conservatism for a few years, to straighten it out. With all the stuff going on overseas, soon to be here in a major way, we need to be tough. You can't talk to terrorists. Muslims consider taking and negotiating to be a sign of weakness. I've been there and have seen it. We have to be tougher and harder than we really are. Kasich is a real nice guy, but I don't think he is the right guy for this time period. But, then again neither are the other two idiots. Both of them are showing their @$$es and it appears that it is just a matter of time before Kasich joins the fray. But, if the delegates at the convention wish to nominate him, he'll get my vote. But, so will either of the other two GOP retards. Anybody but Hillary or Bernie.

When You Have Nothing Left To Lose, You Only Have Everything Left To Gain

A hardball player cannot change the desperate lives that oppose our way of life internationally or domestically. Hasn't history taught us anything? Who fights the good fight? The children of the poor. Have a heart. Follow the money.

God bless those of you who stepped up when they could have played the game.

Guest 04-10-2016 09:56 AM

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So, you do not agree with ANY of the Progressive points?

Pick a point, make a statement or a belief, I'll respond after I do some reading and thinking.

Guest 04-10-2016 10:48 AM

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Pick a point, make a statement or a belief, I'll respond after I do some reading and thinking.

How about mandated overtime pay? If your non-management employees work over 40 hours in a week, they must get time and a half. What is wrong with that?

Reproductive rights? A woman's body is hers. It should not be a legislative issue.

Colleges do not have minority quotas anymore. If you believe they do, please list the colleges and what the quotas are.

Tell us who said and where it was said that executives should have a pay cap.

Thanks.

Guest 04-10-2016 11:13 AM

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How about mandated overtime pay? If your non-management employees work over 40 hours in a week, they must get time and a half. What is wrong with that?
I don't see anything wrong with that.

Reproductive rights? A woman's body is hers. It should not be a legislative issue.
I don't know when a baby is a baby. I'm not that smart. A woman's body is hers and a baby's body is theirs.

Colleges do not have minority quotas anymore. If you believe they do, please list the colleges and what the quotas are.
Quotas don't bother me. I have a family member that can't get a good state department job. In my old state, so I am told, they draw from the Vets pile first. That's fair and well deserved to me.


Tell us who said and where it was said that executives should have a pay cap.

President Obama announced stricter rules on executive compensation at banks receiving "exceptional" levels of aid from the federal government. Some executives will have their annual salary capped at $500,000. Anything above that would have to be paid in stock that won't vest until the firm has paid back its government loans.


Thanks.

How about mandated overtime pay? If your non-management employees work over 40 hours in a week, they must get time and a half. What is wrong with that?
I don't see anything wrong with that.

Reproductive rights? A woman's body is hers. It should not be a legislative issue.
I don't know when a baby is a baby. I'm not that smart. A woman's body is hers and a baby's body is theirs.


Colleges do not have minority quotas anymore. If you believe they do, please list the colleges and what the quotas are.
Quotas don't bother me. I have a family member that can't get a good state department job. In my old state, so I am told, they draw from the Vets pile first. That's fair and well deserved to me. I think it's the same in colleges. Sometime you just have to suck it up and hope you guessed correctly.


Tell us who said and where it was said that executives should have a pay cap.

President Obama announced stricter rules on executive compensation at banks receiving "exceptional" levels of aid from the federal government. Some executives will have their annual salary capped at $500,000. Anything above that would have to be paid in stock that won't vest until the firm has paid back its government loans.
Obama Announces Executive Pay Caps : NPR


I'm open minded and quite willing to change my opinion but not my values.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1210921)
How about mandated overtime pay? If your non-management employees work over 40 hours in a week, they must get time and a half. What is wrong with that?

Reproductive rights? A woman's body is hers. It should not be a legislative issue.

Colleges do not have minority quotas anymore. If you believe they do, please list the colleges and what the quotas are.

Tell us who said and where it was said that executives should have a pay cap.

Thanks.

Mandatory overtime pay? If the gov wants to pay their own overtime, fine. Private industry is private. Stay the h3ll away from it.

Reproductive rights? Fine, if a woman wants to have her tubes tied, that's her body. If she is pregnant, that is the baby's rights, not hers. She got pregnant, so she has no right to kill the baby. By law, yes but by morality it's call murder. The baby has rights too, but not in a liberal environment. How about post-natal murder? I have seen some children that would qualify. Would that also suit you? After all, according to you, that is part of the woman's body.

States have banned affirmative action in state colleges for some time now. Discrimination is still unlawful, as it should be. Being a victim of what some call reverse discrimination or a victim of affirmative action, I am glad that it has been banned.

Caps on CEO's? The gov has no right to regulate pay in the private sector. That is tantamount to socialism. There should not be a cap on anyone's pay, unless it is a gov job and the gov wishes to regulate it. I do not believe in Federally regulated minimum pay either.

Guest 04-10-2016 12:42 PM

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How about mandated overtime pay? If your non-management employees work over 40 hours in a week, they must get time and a half. What is wrong with that?
I don't see anything wrong with that.

Reproductive rights? A woman's body is hers. It should not be a legislative issue.
I don't know when a baby is a baby. I'm not that smart. A woman's body is hers and a baby's body is theirs.


Colleges do not have minority quotas anymore. If you believe they do, please list the colleges and what the quotas are.
Quotas don't bother me. I have a family member that can't get a good state department job. In my old state, so I am told, they draw from the Vets pile first. That's fair and well deserved to me. I think it's the same in colleges. Sometime you just have to suck it up and hope you guessed correctly.


Tell us who said and where it was said that executives should have a pay cap.

President Obama announced stricter rules on executive compensation at banks receiving "exceptional" levels of aid from the federal government. Some executives will have their annual salary capped at $500,000. Anything above that would have to be paid in stock that won't vest until the firm has paid back its government loans.
Obama Announces Executive Pay Caps : NPR


I'm open minded and quite willing to change my opinion but not my values.

Thanks.

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Why do "managers" get screwed? They don't deserve family time too?

A woman's body is hers, but the man should get go-no go authority too. If she doesn't want it but he does, it's her body, she can abort, he can't force her to keep it. If he doesn't want it and she does, he's no longer responsible for any support. Fair IS fair.

Schools and industry still have quotas but they're "under the table" quotas. Try not not hire enough minorities and see how fast the action groups, the bloodsuckers pounce on you. You're right, no official quotas, but there ARE certainly quotas.

Executive pay is obscene. The top 200 CEOs all make over $10 million a year. Equilar | New York Times - 200 Highest-Paid CEO Rankings And at the same time, many of the companies get subsidies.


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