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Guest 04-08-2016 08:18 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1210099)
Would you like to compare the number of signing statements and EO Bush did to Obama....hopefully you know better than to do that!

Go ahead and do it. You will find that he(Bush) didn't circumvent law with his E.O.s. To designate a day or morning, a day of prayer or a day to baseball champions is one thing, but to say, "well if congress is not going to agree with me, I will make my own laws" is illegal and not part of the Executive branch. Now, are you going to use the past presidents actions justification for Obama's failures? And it doesn't matter what president might have done it previously, it's not part of the job, and there is NO excuse for Obama doing it. AND, the Supreme Court agrees with what I said. Obama cannot make law and E.O.s can be voided by the next president.

Guest 04-08-2016 08:44 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1210156)
Go ahead and do it. You will find that he(Bush) didn't circumvent law with his E.O.s. To designate a day or morning, a day of prayer or a day to baseball champions is one thing, but to say, "well if congress is not going to agree with me, I will make my own laws" is illegal and not part of the Executive branch. Now, are you going to use the past presidents actions justification for Obama's failures? And it doesn't matter what president might have done it previously, it's not part of the job, and there is NO excuse for Obama doing it. AND, the Supreme Court agrees with what I said. Obama cannot make law and E.O.s can be voided by the next president.

What excuse is there for the Republicans opposing EVERYTHING that Obama put forward? EVERYTHING from day one! I guess Mitch McConnell wanted the title "King of he Filibuster".

Obama can't makes laws, but he didn't have to sit by and not do his job, because the Republicans refused to let him.

Guest 04-08-2016 09:10 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1210173)
Obama can't makes laws, but he didn't have to sit by and not do his job, because the Republicans refused to let him.

What IS his job? Change the country? Bring it down to "their level"? So they can compete? Make us 3rd world too?

The thing you don't get is...it's not him that sets the agenda. He just tells us what it is. It's set elsewhere. Be a convincing script reader, that's his job.

Guest 04-08-2016 09:12 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1210173)
What excuse is there for the Republicans opposing EVERYTHING that Obama put forward? EVERYTHING from day one! I guess Mitch McConnell wanted the title "King of he Filibuster".

Obama can't makes laws, but he didn't have to sit by and not do his job, because the Republicans refused to let him.

Are you so polarized that your memory does not work?
Do you remember the name Harry Reid? Nothing, NOTHING he thought Obama would not like ever got past his desk. He was notorious for it.

Harry was not just the king of filibuster he was a stop sign...no discussion....if it was from the opposition he automatically put it in the no go drawer.....

Harry Reid remember....nasty old man....party only.....incompetent....

Guest 04-08-2016 09:13 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1210173)

Obama can't makes laws, but he didn't have to sit by and not do his job, because the Republicans refused to let him.

You think Obama rose to be the most powerful man in the world? You're kidding right. Him? He became the MOST powerful man in the world.

He's a talking head!

Many believe he is gay.

Guest 04-08-2016 09:43 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1210173)
What excuse is there for the Republicans opposing EVERYTHING that Obama put forward? EVERYTHING from day one! I guess Mitch McConnell wanted the title "King of he Filibuster".

Obama can't makes laws, but he didn't have to sit by and not do his job, because the Republicans refused to let him.

What excuse??? Are you kidding? Of course we oppose just about everything socialist. Are you nuts? He hasn't had hardly a good idea in seven years and you want to know why?? WHY??? Obamacare was his priority and it was a catastrophe. Stealing half a trillion bucks from Medicare to pay for those that don't have health care, was just theft. Have to pass it to find out what's in it, and you think that is smart? And you would vote to pass something that you didn't know what it was?

Obama signed unlawful E.O.s and the Supreme Court told him that. What did he do? He just ignored them. He is an ignorant failure, at best and a radical is probably more accurate.

You liberals and your talking points, blaming his failure on a Republican congress when they had a filibuster proof congress for two years. NO OPPOSITION and they still couldn't get anything right. When have you ever heard another president EVER blame someone else for their failures.....I mean, other than Clinton.

Guest 04-08-2016 09:48 AM

The ONLY reason that Obama has not been impeached is because they didn't want race riots in the streets of D.C. again. If a Demo-Socialist gets elected by hook or crook, they had better consider this and not try his tactic, because they will be impeached and fired so fast that it will make Nixon look like a choirboy.

Guest 04-08-2016 10:14 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1210193)
You think Obama rose to be the most powerful man in the world? You're kidding right. Him? He became the MOST powerful man in the world.

He's a talking head!

Many believe he is gay.

That's a new one.
How does your mind work? "Let's see, what's the most disparaging remark I can make about Obama. Muslim, been done,,,half white,,been done,,hmmmm I know, I'll call him gay."
That's pretty funny.

Guest 04-08-2016 10:22 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1210156)
Go ahead and do it. You will find that he(Bush) didn't circumvent law with his E.O.s. To designate a day or morning, a day of prayer or a day to baseball champions is one thing, but to say, "well if congress is not going to agree with me, I will make my own laws" is illegal and not part of the Executive branch. Now, are you going to use the past presidents actions justification for Obama's failures? And it doesn't matter what president might have done it previously, it's not part of the job, and there is NO excuse for Obama doing it. AND, the Supreme Court agrees with what I said. Obama cannot make law and E.O.s can be voided by the next president.

LOL!!!! Now you are just being silly. Bush had signing statements by which he would not follow parts of a bill he didn't support!

But why don't you explain Bush's EO 13303....did you think we would forget?

Guest 04-08-2016 10:55 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1210237)
LOL!!!! Now you are just being silly. Bush had signing statements by which he would not follow parts of a bill he didn't support!

But why don't you explain Bush's EO 13303....did you think we would forget?

Is that the best defense for Obama's blunders that you could come with? What law did Bush break by signing that E.O.? What did he do that was illegal?

Are you liberals going to be crybabies every time someone says a legitimate criticism of the Obummer? Are you going ATTEMPT to use other previous presidents record in an ATTEMPT to defend Obummer the failure?

Your feeble attempt was pitiful at best.

Guest 04-08-2016 10:58 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1210027)
And do you think on the other side of the world, 2000 years ago the disciples were named Matthew, Luke, Paul and John?

...or that Jesus was 6 feet tall, had blue eyes and blonde hair? Most likely, Jesus was around 5 foot 4, dark brown curly hair, brown eyes, and dark olive complexion.

Anyhow, Jesus taught compassion. Remember that when bashing immigrants or minorities.

Guest 04-08-2016 11:13 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1210262)
...or that Jesus was 6 feet tall, had blue eyes and blonde hair? Most likely, Jesus was around 5 foot 4, dark brown curly hair, brown eyes, and dark olive complexion.

Anyhow, Jesus taught compassion. Remember that when bashing immigrants or minorities.

Oh, so you are going to lecture us on Christianity? What a joke! Who told you that Christians ever suggested that Jesus was blonde with blue eyes? And really, what difference does it make as to what his appearance was? And what does his appearance have to do with the topic of this thread? And what would you know about Christian compassion? It is obvious that you are a non-believer so please don't pretend to be an expert on religion.

Compassion? Where was all your compassion when it came to doing your patriotic duty for your country? Yes, yes, you can come on here and make up any fictitious history you wish. Where is your compassion when it comes to charity donations. I mean other than when you volunteer everyone else's earnings.

Without laws, you have anarchy. Where's your civility when it comes to order? Why should someone be able to jump the line for any purpose? You libtards disparage the wealthy because you feel they have special rights afforded to them due to their wealth, and then turn around and want every minority or vagabond to be able to jump the line when they are undeserving.

Get over yourself. It's easy to have compassion at other people's expense, isn't it?

Guest 04-08-2016 11:34 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1210259)
Is that the best defense for Obama's blunders that you could come with? What law did Bush break by signing that E.O.? What did he do that was illegal?

Are you liberals going to be crybabies every time someone says a legitimate criticism of the Obummer? Are you going ATTEMPT to use other previous presidents record in an ATTEMPT to defend Obummer the failure?

Your feeble attempt was pitiful at best.


No I think you said Bush's EO were for:

"You will find that he(Bush) didn't circumvent law with his E.O.s. To designate a day or morning, a day of prayer or a day to baseball champions is one thing."

EO 13303 was much more than that...did you think we would forget that the Bush administration would tell the American people that the cost of the Iraq war would be paid back by Iraq oil.

“BUSH SIGNED EXECUTIVE ORDER 13303″ Gave Immunity To Oil Companies in 2003 – ::Broadcatching::

I have not called you names nor President Bush names but you on the other hand can do nothing but rant and call the current President names.... Insults get you nowhere!

Guest 04-08-2016 11:52 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1210280)
No I think you said Bush's EO were for:

"You will find that he(Bush) didn't circumvent law with his E.O.s. To designate a day or morning, a day of prayer or a day to baseball champions is one thing."

EO 13303 was much more than that...did you think we would forget that the Bush administration would tell the American people that the cost of the Iraq war would be paid back by Iraq oil.

“BUSH SIGNED EXECUTIVE ORDER 13303″ Gave Immunity To Oil Companies in 2003 – ::Broadcatching::

I have not called you names nor President Bush names but you on the other hand can do nothing but rant and call the current President names.... Insults get you nowhere!

You just reinforced my statement. Bush did NOT circumvent the law with his E.O.s as Obumble has. Nice try though, even if it seems halfhearted at best. Insults to Obummer are warranted, since he has spent seven years insulting me and the rest of America. I do feel sorry for your need to defend him constantly though. It must be very tiring and ungratifying.

Guest 04-08-2016 12:29 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1210209)
What excuse??? Are you kidding? Of course we oppose just about everything socialist. Are you nuts? He hasn't had hardly a good idea in seven years and you want to know why?? WHY??? Obamacare was his priority and it was a catastrophe. Stealing half a trillion bucks from Medicare to pay for those that don't have health care, was just theft. Have to pass it to find out what's in it, and you think that is smart? And you would vote to pass something that you didn't know what it was?

Obama signed unlawful E.O.s and the Supreme Court told him that. What did he do? He just ignored them. He is an ignorant failure, at best and a radical is probably more accurate.

You liberals and your talking points, blaming his failure on a Republican congress when they had a filibuster proof congress for two years. NO OPPOSITION and they still couldn't get anything right. When have you ever heard another president EVER blame someone else for their failures.....I mean, other than Clinton.

You make statements of facts that aren't facts. This is the fifth time that I posted this article. You conservatives have your talking points that aren't based in reality, but stick to them like glue.
ttp://www.outsidethebeltway.com/did-the-democrats-ever-really-have-60-votes-in-the-senate-and-for-how-long/facts

You don't read it, because it doesn't fit your view of the world. The Great Recession wasn't a failure! What president had to walk into such a deep hole before he took one step into the presidency, and then have the opposing party do EVERYTHING possible to make sure the country stayed in the hole for their own political gains. The party first, the country second.

If Obamacare is such a failure, why aren't the Republican candidates talking about it non stop? That is right! Their wives looks are a much more important issue that millions of uninsured citizens. It is working in the states that want it to work, and not working in states that are doing everything possible to make sure it doesn't work. Whatever happened to "repeal, and replace"?

How stupid do you have to be to see that there isn't a problem when people have to use the emergency ward as your primary care physician?


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